Betrayer... In truth, it was I who was betrayed. Still, I am hunted. Still, I am hated. Now...

>Betrayer... In truth, it was I who was betrayed. Still, I am hunted. Still, I am hated. Now, my blind eyes see what others cannot: that sometimes the hand of fate must be forced! Now go forth... unleash the tides of Doom... Upon all those...who would oppose us.
3 more days...
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WoD was a total disappointment, honestly. I'm going to give it a solid 2 months and see how the community/player base feel about it then.

My issue with WoD was that outside of my 1-2 raid nights, there was nothing of value to keep me interested in logging in. Reputations, 5mans, quests, etc were more easily digested than ever before and there wasn't much of anything outside of raid content to begin with. It felt like half of an expansion.

For people who have played Legion beta, are the Broken Isles just another dead amusement park like WoD's Draenor?

For all of its faults and polarizing as fuck aesthetics, MoP kept me engaged and wanting to log in at the very least.

>People have been wondering since Warcraft 3 why Illidan has been portrayed as a villain
>Surprise! He was a good guy all along, what a tweest!
Blizzard are hacks

>since Warcraft 3 why Illidan has been portrayed as a villain
Well, it was explained many times
He is retard who can't into any long term plans

Anyone with half a brain could look a little deeper and see that it was 90% Malfurion being butthurt,

Did you even play warcraft 3? Everytime illidan is about to explain why he saved like an entire race of people or tried to justify is great sacrifice for the greater good malfurion literally cuts him off before he can explain and says shit like "SILENCE! YOU HAVE BETRAYED EVERYONE BECAUSE I SAID SO" Every fucking time. Like if illidan were to save a cat drowning malfurion would come out and shit on illidan because now the fish won't have any food to eat.

Like he literally can't win.

This Malfurion has never done anything right. He is literally worst than Green Moses.

Illidan has always done good shit even if he had to sacrifice

he's the only "did nothing wrong" character in the game that really did nothing wrong, he needed the power to destroy Tichondrious, he tried to destroy the Lich King and when everything was done, he was told to fuck off

so he did, he captured the Black Temple

and then we invaded him

no wonder he's so edgy

For a wise, ancient druid, Malfurion sure is stupid

>Lol, let's sink north continent and fuck half of the world to kill lich king
>Oh and let's not explain anything to anyone
Fuck off, Illidan always was kinda retarded
Oh, and how would he even explain his actions? Demon lord told me to use this artifact and raise sea level? I'm sure everyone would udnerstand and approve:)

Illidan apologists always conveniently ignore all that when it is blatantly obvious that the Stormrage family is full of retards.

Who the fuck cares about Northrend? Violent vikings, evil spider people, murderous werewolves nothing of value was lost.

don't forget the ice trolls and the giant fucking snake in the zone

Demon hunters are literally like Illidan.
Illidan is a cuck
Hence all the demon hunters are cucks.

Sinking it would fuck main continents too, maybe even stronger than cataclysm did
And before being retconed in the wotlk, undead never were a serious threat

I forgot about those damn trolls. They were literally the most evil of the troll subspecies.

illidan is an antihero
this is canon
always has been
always will be

The keepers of ulduar would have been pretty pissed, yogg would have probably been released
Loki also probably would have died in the process, signaling the pantheon to re-originate azeroth

He also died at the end of WC III.

Hyperbole and conjecture
DELET THIS

who 2/1 Flame of Azinoth here?

>Tyrande
>worth it

>implying Illidan was not being ballsucked for TEN THOUSAND YEARS by Maiev
>implying she's isn't Yandere that just wanted the dick
>implying Illidan doesn't have thousand of Illidari sluts to his service

literally the best

he died 3 times
i don't think anyone cares, since blizzard definitely retconnected him to the "he's a demon, he can't die" realm of retardation

He's also fucking Tyrande while forcing Illidan to watch and listen. He's literally cuckolding him.

>malfurion is Metzen's favorite character

>wow lore in a WC3 discussion
kys yourself my man

>There are people that like Malfurion
>There are people that like Tyrande
Why? How? When have they ever made a single non-retarded decision? They honestly might be the only characters dumber than Thrall

>died in WC3
>somehow ended up in vault of the wardens after maiev stuck him in a crystal after he was never killed in black temple during burning crusade

i liked tyrande before furion (lolmalfurion) woke up
i never liked malfurion
and i definitely stopped liking tyrande when they gave her a troll voice actor

>that entire harem room full of demon and elf sluts in BT

You fucking KNOW he's had every single one of them. At once.

>implying Illidan was not being blueballed for TEN THOUSAND YEARS by Maiev
>implying he's isn't the laughingstock of the elven race
>implying Illidan have thousand of Illidari sluts to his service
top cuck

>When have they ever made a single non-retarded decision?
Muh forest!

The only thing i'm excited about Legion are Demon Hunters.
Everything else is just WoD 2.0: green edition.

>Hyperbole and conjecture
No, it's not, you fucking retard
Entire continent would fucking sink from the earthquakes, it was literally his plan. What do you think would happen with sea level after that?
>When have they ever made a single non-retarded decision?
Let's see:
>Uniting with Horde and Alliance
>Sacrificing their immortality to stop demon lord
>Stopping his retarded demon brother from fucking up world, because demon lord told him did it
Malfurion always was better brother, little control freak, but still never fucked up as hard as his attention whore brother

>giant snake
you talkin bout yogg-saron or this something else?

Haven't you seen the new Harbingers video? It's okey when Illidan does it, because he "IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE EVERYTHING TO PROTECT AZEROTH".

So it's okay to sink a whole continent if it means protecting the world from the undead.


Let's not forget that Frozen Throne campaign where Maiev comes across a night elf settlement, and they've all been completely slaughtered by Illidan and his naga, destroying the boats and what not.

Well guess what, in his new book, we discover that when illidan arrived at the NE village, it was already under attack by demons or something, and Illidan only cleared the place up, but the Naga apparently erased the Demon's footing and what not because of their tail waggling, leading to Maiev thinking they killed everyone.

I'm not even joking.

Illidan will always be special in my heart because he appeased to the edgy 12 year old me.

>People have been wondering since Warcraft 3 why Illidan has been portrayed as a villain
Well people should have read the manual that came with the game.

>"He dind do nuffin"
>Blizzard trying this hard to rewrite canoe

wew

>implying Illidan have thousand of Illidari sluts to his service
He has a temple full of sluts

No he isn't that would be Green Thrall.

Azeroth isn't Earth. There is no proof that sinking Northrend would harm the rest of the planet.

This is not how water works

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>the other troll races find ice trolls and sand trolls disgusting savages
also hope we get to see dark trolls again
well he did free some faceless ones in azjol'nerub
then what about his satyrs? did they clear that up by saying the sentinels attacked their peaceful demonic camp?

Malfurion is ok. He made a good choice to defeat Archimonde, and I think he did the right thing by stopping Illidan tearing up Northrend. I don't really understand the hate for Malfurion. Name something he did wrong cause I can't think of any

>blizzard can't write shit

More news at 11.

>No Tyrande!

Oh you haven't seen anything yet. Behold. Taken from mmo-champion.

>>Now, during her travels, Maiev at one point remembers the flowers of Darnassus and how she misses it... but hold on...
>>Darnassus was built on Teldrassil which was planted on the island Kalidar.
>>However, Teldrassil was only planted after Malfurion fell into his Emerald Dream coma, something supported by Fandral.
>>The last time Maiev had set foot on Azeroth was when Illidan left through a portal to Outland after having saved Tyrande WITH Malfurion.
>>So Malfurion was not asleep yet. Teldrassil had not been planted. Darnassus had not been built.

>>The night elf capital was Nighthaven. How did Maiev remember the flowers of Darnassus when the city had not been build yet? When the tree on which it rested had not been planted even yet?

Why be consistent if you can make "look guys, demon hunters are cool"

Actually Maiev went back to Darnassus to protest the joining of the Highborne back into the Night Elf culture as they were the catalyst for the sundering. She was banished after trying to kill a Highborne in Darnassus.

It's in the books

That was after the events of TBC tho. She remembered the flowers in the Illidan book that's before and during TBC.

Oh whoops, carry on then. I figured this was a voice line in Legion.

Blizzard are hacks.

i wonder how much blizzard pay their shills

WoD might actually be the worst expansion for literally any MMO ever made. Legion looks like shit too.

Judging by the quality of shilling and "straight from a script" arguments, I'll say they pay them in WoW pets and HotS/OW skins.

How can WoD be the "worst expansion for literally any MMO ever made", if wotlk was the worst expansion WoW ever had?

>Anything being worse than 6.1 which was entirely devoted to a Selfie Camera.

Listen I am basically a Blizzdrone but WoD was unacceptable garbage outside of raiding.

oh yeah that one... I'm not sure if that's a wrong decision though. I can understand how much he wanted to save his wife but is it right letting Illidan go like that? I don't know nelf law but it seems inappropriate

What spells do you guys miss the most? For me it's Intervene for Arms and Fury. They were essential to raiding and saved my ass more times than I can count as a DPS and now it's prot only.

What about 3.0 with only 2 new raid bosses?
What about voice chat patch?

>what is the black temple sex room with right outside huge demon bitches

Keep memeing memeboy

Selfie
Camera

No content, nothing that helps communication, nothing that was any level of content by any stretch of the imagination. Literally just a selfie camera and twitter integration.

Wrath added a new class, some decent new areas and a few very very good raids. WoD added literally nothing good

I know, it's from Stormrage or was it Wolfheart, but here's the thing. That happens during the Cataclysm, while she's fond of the flowers during her memories prior to the Burning Crusade.

Or as put it.

If Illidan hates demons so much, why does his house is full of demons, and some of them literally suck his dick?

>playing WoW

I hate how demons now have the same death rules as Elementals.

ALL, and I mean fucking ALL WoD raids were better than anything in wotlk
>2 new raid bosses as selling point of expack
Wotlk was still worse
At least 6.1 added legendary quest and other shit

Listen I get that you have a hate boner for WOTLK but it's a fucking selfie camera.

He gave him another source of magic(right, fuck Kael and his blood elves) and freed them from legion shackles
Again
Wotlk had 2 new raid bosses as endgame for the few months in the first patch with people clearing it in first weeks
Not many people cleared mythic BRF than 6.1 came out, and it still had somecontent except selfie camera
And why do you ignore voice chat patch, this patch literally didn't had new content, except maybe removing elite mobs from old world

The way it is now, Demons are essentially the "elementals" of the Void and whatever the Burning Legion's homeworld/realm/plane is.

*takes selfie*
nice post dude

there is the tail of a fucking giant serpent in Gundrak

pic related, I think it was destined to be some sort of raid boss in the Troll area, but it was cut

yes

and then WOTLK had Ulduar, the best raid in the game

then the tournament, underwhelming, but content, with shit to get, quest, dungeon and a new raid

then 3 new dungeons

then finally ICC, which you face one of the most iconic Warcraft characters, it was a great battle and a great finale to one of the best xpac

meanwhile, they released another small raid

what did WoD had after the selfie patch? Hellfire Citadel, and Tanaan, a zone that was cut and half done when the expansions launched

Actually, no. It was never intended to be anything more than "cool".

It has been asked before in a Blizzcon, and they plainly said, "oh, no reason, we just thought it looked cool".

Never intended to be anything else.

>never intended to be anything else
>when you are talking to Blizzard aka "masters of cut content"

there was an entire zone in Azjol Nerub and that was cut, im sure they were planning a Troll raid provided how big the building to Gundrak and the other instance is

Nah, not according to them. Dude who asked about the Snake had to literally pull up a image to show them because they couldn't remember what snake in what troll instance they were talking about.

It was literally "because it looks cool".

youtu.be/bGBAXZNRVXk?t=138

Blizzard won't lie to you, right?

Is like the new drones/shill that say "demon hunter only have 2 specs because 2 DPS ones are redundant, not because Blizzard is lazy".

Or maybe it's just decoration and nothing more. You're comparison doesn't work because, as stated, one is decoration in a 5man and the other is a core gameplay mechanic tied to every class.

Yes, Blizzard is lazy and and their reasoning for only having two specs is retarded, but the snake thing isn't the same.

Trolls raids are a WoW classic, and WotlK doesn't have one, so it reeks like cut content.

I'll concede that the big serpent could be just decoration in that tho.

That's not true. They meant to do an actual cinematic for that scene but they didn't have budget, time, or something so they did it with in game assets and incorrectly showed illidan as a dying heap when he was supposed to have survived.

>the best raid in the game
How it was best?
Because you farmed it in the 4 modes? lol
Atmosphere wise it was garbage compared to the most of BC and Vanilla raids
Mechanic wise it was garbe to the everything that came after
HFC is better than all wotlk raids combined
And Tanaan alone was better than all end game wotlk zones

What did he mean by this?

4 modes in ulduar!
fuck off

>HFC is better than all wotlk raids combined
lol
>And Tanaan alone was better than all end game wotlk zones
lol

you're fucking wrong kiddo

Yeah, Arthas the merciful, wielder of not-stormbringer, the sword of peace won't kill him.

Even if Arthas didn't gave a fuck and rush to the throne, that would mean Illidan was left badly wounded in the middle of Icecrown. He won't survive there in that condition.

>HFC is better than all wotlk raids combined
>And Tanaan alone was better than all end game wotlk zones

Tanaan was better than ToC at least. Not better than the timeless isles.

The only good thing to ever come out of WoD was Khadgar and that was it.

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And Gorgrond; that was a great zone.

tanaan was just ugly green timeless isle with everything new or unique removed, i can't believe how much of a massive step backward they took from pandaland

twisting nether, void is the other chaos dimension
but since Outland is in the nether, did any demons die permanently? we know kazzak lives on
personally I didn't like it when dreadlords alone where able to reconstitute in the nether, it gave arthas killing mal ganis and illidan killing tichondrias and varimathiras killing the other guy less weight

If you actually raided, yes
10, 25 every week, and latter 10 hard modes of some bosses and 25 hard modes of some bosses. EVERY FUCKING WEEK
This is how raiding in the wotlk was
Prove me wrong
All wotlk had only 1 great boss fight, fucking Lich King. It was worth to do ICC just to fight him in 25h(notice best wotlk boss wasn't even in the ulduar, lol)
HFC has at least 4 bos fights better than this
And yes, Tanaan is better end game zone than anything in wotlk

It wasn't intended to be an endgame zone. Blizzard made that change last minute because WoD was a rushed piece of shit.

Do you remember any legendary quest since vanilla? It was pure grind and luck
Oh wait you don't
Fucking wotlk kid

That has nothing to do with what he said.

>and varimathiras killing the other guy less weight
Yeah, his treason was supposed to be a big deal. By WoW lore it should play like a trick (I'll pretend to kill you, lol), not like it happened in WC3.

He posted meme picture about how grindy quest was on the legendary ring

I didn't even say anything about wotlk or vanilla.