>Finally, we do know that a couple of Nintendo-published titles sold less than 50,000 copies in their second months. Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE sold much less than 35,000 units.
>It's too focused on idolshit to appeal to normal people >It's also part of a niche genre >Weaboos don't like it because of the localization changes >NoA marketing
Luke Jackson
Only people that would buy a game like this is neogaf.
Jonathan Peterson
I'm a weeaboo and the girls in that game look fucking ugly so I didn't buy it. This is one of those games where the 3D models don't complement the anime style and looks awkward.
Nicholas Powell
The main problem I have with this game is >SMT good >FE shit
so mixing the two doesn't really appeal to me when I could just be playing an SMT game that isn't mixed with shit.
Blake Lee
You are either blind, gay, or both.
Jace Morgan
D-D-D-DIGITAL SALES AND CONCERT SALES WILL SAVE MY CAREER! YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE LAST OF TSUBASA ORIBE!!!
Cooper Smith
LOL WHAT A FLOP
Kayden Anderson
>niche game on a niche console It's a great game but it was obviously gonna flop. Censorship didn't help
Brody Baker
>pirated it >enjoyed it >moved on with my life I'd play a sequel but it's not really something I care strongly about either way.
Aiden Taylor
What? You only buy games if they have pretty girls in? Not because of the actual gameplay, story and what not. I'm pretty sure you're retarded mate.
Carson Parker
>MUH SALES Who cares? I pirated it and it was great. Easily one of the better jrpgs released in the past 5 years.
Elijah Long
>>It's too focused on idolshit to appeal to normal people >>It's also part of a niche genre >>Weaboos don't like it because of the localization changes >>NoA marketing
you also forgot: >on Wiiu >was not the crossover they promised
Ian Robinson
>promised
Ryder Walker
F L O P L O P
Ian Perez
>never played a SMT game >only play newest FE >still love this game
You just had to give it a chance...
Blake Thompson
niche games like this always sell their best in the first week of release, no surprised here desu /thread
Gavin Ross
Tsubasa ruined it. It would have been better if she wasn't in it.
Oliver Sullivan
they made the initial trailer.
They made the KOWASTIHA trailer have the SMTxFE name.
There was a promise but it was never delivered
Ryan Collins
Fun Fact: #FE is currently the worst selling Fire Emblem game to date.
Brody Martin
What was your reaction when you first saw the game action? After having seen this youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo I expected something entirely different than another Persona game.
Oliver Russell
So when's Cody going to damage control?
Gabriel Allen
>surprised a niche game is pulling niche numbers on a dead system
Adrian Jackson
>Why didn't you buy Tsubasa's game? Because it sucks
I played through a chunk with loadline, it fucking sucks.
It almost has like the xenoblade factor, where people who only had a wii or wiiu will praise it because they don't know what good rpgs are.
Hudson Hill
Doesn't sound too bad what's the global total?
Jackson Green
I bought it used. It's not a bad game, and there's clearly been a decent amount of effort put into the game, but all that effort was horribly misguided.
Joseph Foster
>it sucks because it sucks opinion discarded.
Brandon Miller
good
fuck anyone who was involved in this
Chase Martinez
Censored trash, not worth my money.
Hudson Wright
Gameplay was good but I pirated it and used the patch anyway, because Nintendo of America should suffer in any way possible.
Jacob Martin
I was excited for a crossover like Devil Survivor but then the idolshit happened
How can he damage control this flop?
Bentley Peterson
Which is neat, since it's coming off the best selling one, and the one that boosted the franchise up to being a heavy hitter for Nintendo.
Had like four months in the sun.
Gabriel Wright
IIRC he said that digital sales are the way of the future
Jeremiah Rivera
>IIRC he said that digital sales are the way of the future
that's one way to damage control, say that digital sales did something but whit no way to track them
Henry Powell
>no body bought #FE >years down the road people will reference it >characters will make cameos in other games >it will become the next Earthbound and Xenoblade Chronicle
Glad I bought it and it was actually a good game.
Zachary Murphy
She wasn't even autistic cute
Oliver Watson
Fuck this meme
Dominic Martin
honestly one of the best things that could have happened for the modern video games industry. this piece of trash needed to be dead and buried, completely forgotten on arrival because all it ever aspired to do was hold back video kino as a respectable artistic medium, one that doesnt completely cater to mouth breathing otaku and 15 year olds.
Andrew Kelly
Either near or at 200k
Colton Moore
So how are people and Nintendo going to look back at this game in future?
Parker Walker
Nah, #FE is too derivative to be remembered like those other games.
Dylan Robinson
That's plenty for a niche jrpg.
Asher Ross
Tsubasa for Smash Bros. Never Ever
Kayden Bailey
>Either near or at 200k
wouldn't it be more around 100k?
Jordan Clark
Nintendo's probably not going to do another crossover unless they're developing it themselves.
She doesn't look that bad unless she's looking directly at the camera. Almost all the character look awful when they do.
Oliver Gomez
>Wii U
I almost can't believe there's 35,000 active Wii U owners.
Jordan Adams
>Who's to blame for this?
Everyone involved in its development and the concept for the game itself.
>Pitched as a crossover between a niche series and a series that almost died and was only saved due to waifushit >Revealed to actually be a totally original thing that only borrowed surface level elements from those series, alienating people who like SMT and FE >It's a JRPG, and was going to have a limited audience from the start >It's a Wii U game, and was going to have a limited audience from the start >It's a game about idols and idol culture, and was going to have a limited audience from the start >Nintendo took a bunch of potentially offensive elements from the game, put them up on a wall, and threw darts to decide what to and what not to censor, alienating even more people out of the venn diagram of people who like JRPGs, have a Wii U, and either enjoy or don't mind idolshit >People shitposted when the first batch of sales numbers were revealed and celebrated it as a massive victory, despite the fact that no one in their right mind would've ever expected the game to be a hit, anywhere.
>Why didn't you buy Tsubasa's game?
I did, though. Despite everything, the game itself is pretty solid, but you really have to wade through some fucking nonsense to get to it.
Do you still believe the rumors about a sequel being in the works?
Possibly, if the music albums and karaoke and tie-in merch are doing as well as I've heard. Honestly, they'd probably be better off just making vocaloids based on the characters rather than a new game.
Jonathan Collins
Could be simple trophies.
>having shit taste Were you one of those faggot that thought we were literally getting SMTxFE?
>he doesn't know that most Wii U exclusives have a higher attachment rate than PS4 or Xbone exclusives >Splatoon sold more than Bloodborne
William White
>on wiiu no they wouldn't
Jordan Morris
>Nintendo's probably not going to do another crossover unless they're developing it themselves.
and remember to keep it as a crossover
Sebastian Powell
>Release vague trailer promoting SMT x Fire Emblem >fan's imaginations collectively go wild at the possibilities >it's actually a generic JRPG about J-pop Idols
Dominic Bailey
Good! Fuck censored games.
Ryan Gonzalez
The only person involved with this shit I feel bad for is Toi8.
He does good artwork. And I absolutely think it was wasted on this game.
Hudson Clark
>Tsubasa's costume has its cleavage line removed >her win animation has her bend over and you can see the full outline of her tits anyways
>censor boss cleavage in cutscene but not battle We'll never know what the fuck they were thinking.
Juan Lee
It was originally conceived as Fire Emblem X Pokemon
Zachary White
It sold like 50k alone in June in the west
Carter Lewis
Game was a bastardization of two niche series.
Censorship wasn't the problem here even though it did not help.
Oliver Scott
Teams usually have an editing budget for this sort of thing, they tend to try to use all of it or else they'll be given less budget for censorship next game.
Evan Rogers
>We'll never know what the fuck they were thinking. If the game did well, they can say that censorship boosted sales and can justify it to the Japanese businessmen for the rest of time. If the game didn't sell well, they could say it was due to the fact that they didn't censor it completely, and again justify it forever. NoA was pretty clever with how they did this.
Jack Harris
>they tend to try to use all of it or else they'll be given less budget for censorship next game Right, because what doesn't get used magically disappears into the abyss
Jose King
Do you have a source to back up that claim?
Leo Rodriguez
>because what doesn't get used magically disappears into the abyss No it just goes to other places.
Jonathan Rivera
No, what doesn't get used will later be cited by the higher-ups as "excess" budget later on during future negotiations, and will be first in line to be cut.
Aaron Gomez
So we're not getting any porn from this in the foreseeable future, right?
Jason Wilson
The game's been out in Japan since December.
If there's no porn now, there never will be.
Lincoln King
Nigga when Japan won't draw porn of your idolshit you know you fucked up
Jacob Williams
I watched the gameplay of this and I can't get where is the FE part of the crossover besides some characters
Jack Perez
>they promised me scrolling artworks
Thomas Jones
I wouldn't have minded if the game was pure kusoge, but the idolshit literally managed to kill any interest I had.
Liam Adams
who cares, C90 just happened
Jace Gutierrez
Maybe if we are lucky we'll get a few porn pics of Tsubasa but doujins? Not likely
Jayden Rivera
That is unless you pay someone
Kayden Cruz
...
Julian Gutierrez
I'd have given this game a shot, but Wii U.
Nathaniel Cox
Weapon Triangle
Blake Rodriguez
>two best girls Finally something good out of this game.
Isaiah Cruz
Soon.
Jose Nguyen
they never stated that the crossover was cancelled and they had the balls to give this the SMTxFE name: youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA
Parker Rivera
>SMTxFE fails because censorship >FEFATES succeeded despite censorship
Ethan Myers
I don't imagine they do, but it's pretty common for most businesses to try and use the entire budget they're given, be it time, money, people, etc.
If your boss gives you a project and a deadline of one week, and you finish in three days, three days is all you're gonna get going forward.
Wyatt Reyes
Good, I'm glad it bombed.
Jayden Cook
Pretty happy that it sold bad.
So much wrong with this game.
Matthew King
It's still a crossover of SMT and FE no matter how hard you shut your eyes, scream, and plug your ears.
Lincoln Edwards
One's on the 3DS The other's on the Wii U
Justin Miller
Did Sup Forums sing Kowashitai yet?
Camden Cruz
Because the people who scream about censorship are such a fucking tiny minority.
They only matter the more niche a project becomes, and considering what a niche #FE was, they probably did have a significant impact on sales.
Granted, even if everyone who was going to buy the game who changed their mind after the censorship was revealed still bought it, it still wouldn't have broken 50k.
Nathan Phillips
It failed because it's unappealing. Even among people who liked the game the premise is more tolerated than liked.
Juan Allen
>they probably did have a significant impact on sales. Indeed, because everyone knows all the censorshipfags that complained actually play Fire Emblem and SMT and own a Wii U
Christian Butler
I just recently finished this game, and it's hands down the best Persona game. I won't be surprised when Persona 5 is a big step down from this game's combat system.
Matthew Hill
>FE fans don't want it >SMT fans don't want >Maybe it'll at least appeal to fans of Persona, Jpop, Idols, and other Japanese entertainment culture
Oh wait, NOA took a hacksaw to the original game, and gave us this localization abomination. On top of that, they didn't advertise at all. Seriously, what the fuck goes through the heads at NOA? Who did they think wanted this, who was gonna buy it?
Daniel Scott
Would not be surprised if this somehow got ported down to the 3DS.
Dylan Myers
Wii U owners?
James Rivera
>I won't be surprised when Persona 5 is a big step down from this game's combat system.
I'd put real life money on #FE basically being an engine test of P5. And also a way for Atlus to shake out all of their idol lust in one fell swoop as to not contaminate P5 with it.
Well, two fell swoops, I guess.
Nolan Allen
Ofc they are a minorty.
That being said the game is niche within a niche...it doesn´t really make FE nor SMT happy and it is way to Japanese for the average Joe.
Ian Cooper
They were probably trying to just squeeze a few extra dollars by riding on FE's popularity, but didn't have any confidence in it whatsoever. It explains their handling of it, as well as why they didn't even bother to dub it.
Brayden Moore
How? They either don't know it exists or if they do, are turned off by the localization.
Charles Campbell
Pirated the uncensored version, it was alright. The Western release deserved to bomb.
Dylan Ramirez
>it is way to Japanese for the average Joe.
It was way too Japanese for the Japanese, even. The game bombed there, too. I think it's been considered a success by Nintendo/IS/Atlus off the back of the tie-in merchandise, like karaoke and vocaloid shit.
Angel Perez
It's going to be dumbed down as fuck and we all know it.
The dumb Jpop idol game has bosses than will oneshot you on their first turn on normal difficulty. Persona will be more baby's first jrpg bs
Cameron Roberts
Why do people keep spouting this retarded bullshit when it's slightly better than Strange Journey's battle system.