I have never played this game. Should I just install Bloodlines or should I first place Redemption?

I have never played this game. Should I just install Bloodlines or should I first place Redemption?

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Yes.

Yeah, but should I just install Bloodlines or should I first place Redemption?

Redemption is shit, play bloodlines

Install Bloodlines: The Masquerades
Then install the patch.

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There's a bomb in the sarcophagus

Forget Redemption. It's a good game, but not nearly as good as Bloodlines.

Also, do open it.

Bloodlines. Patch it or it's unplayable.

Jack is the main villain

Do open it.

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you're all giving me spoilers, but joke's on you, i will not play these games until like November, cause i'm lazy and just installing games that I will play some day.

also well memed, no idea why i wrote ''place''

Skip it. If you're desperate for VTM after you finished bloodlines then maybe you might want to give redemption a go.

Redemption has a good plot and themes. It was just extremely rushed.

I hope Obsidian or inXile remakes the whole game.

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Why do you ask these questions on Sup Forums?
You know the only thing we do here is spoil the shit for everyone.

Ask a cool friend of yours who got a taste you respect and then decide.

And yes, nobody here got friends, so that may be your problem.

Hello LA, you're up way past your bed time, aren't you?

Hi Deb

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this.

I never got past a stupid mission because i played before the patches were a thing. I fear for reinstalling because I know I'll never actually play it again.

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Play Bloodlines at least twice - once as a normal clan and once as a Malkavian or a Nosferatu - and Redemption at least once. Also use the Unofficial Basic Patch with Bloodlines on your first playthrough and then use the Unofficial Plus Patch on your second one.

Also: youtube.com/watch?v=t-JhfqO_OIc

How do you beat the sheriif bat, without heavily investing in guns and bringing infinity+1 bullets.

I haven't played the game in forever and I really felt this game was absolutely unfair sometimes. had to cheat pass the sabbat boss and manbat here. I was heavily invested in melee cause guns were crap and I hardly found any ammo.

Fuck these faggots for holding the license hostage

What do you suggest, I go to reddit? I'm used to Sup Forums, some of you are okay, but as I mentioned - my shitty memory will remember 0 spoilers by the time I actually start playing this. Though I already pirated the game.

Where do you get all these neat infographics? I stumbled upon a couple of these today and still can't find a source

So does that sudden leave after Andrei speaks mean Deb is kindred?

Lurking Sup Forums and saving stuff whenever I see it

I've been browsing vtmb threads for quite some time, and I'm always amazed that the game is never spoiled. Not even one post revealing the ending.

Redemption and bloodlines are both good games but they're not related asside from the fact they both take place in the world of darkness.
If you like shooters, first person view, or good dialogue systems start with bloodlines.
If you prefer hack and slash third person games with predefined characters go with redemption.
You really can't go wrong with either.

Most of those are made by /vg/ autists

Gangrel is actually brutal fun. I had a weird period with this game not too long time ago. I finished it like 4 times in a row just to try different classes and it never got tiring, especially since I like to min-max.

It's a fun game and really, do mind the sewers, they're shit and no one agrees that it's actual fun. Also, that zombie mini game... fuck off.

If you have the patience to grapple with the clunky combat system it's easily one of the best vampire stories out there.

I'm truly surprised Christoph Romuald has not had another game.

Don't bother with Redemption, it's not a very good game.

Bloodlines however is 10/10 GOAT

You can sort of play it pause and go. It helped me in some of the more chaotic fights once I realized it was possible.

Well, actually, I would rather go to reddit if you got a good memory. There are assholes there aswell, but you got a far less chance of getting spoiled because people dont want downvotes etc etc...
But again, some people just make a new account to spew shit with.
But here, you'll get nothing else but shit anyway.

E.g, I stay out of every thread about new games because I know people who play on early leaks will spoil the shit.

My first playthrough was as a melee character. After fighting it for around 30 minutes I suddenly remembered that I had guns. Even though I had no investment in guns besides from reading books it still went down very quickly.
But guns aren't crap, they're by far superior to melee weapons in all of the encounters except, I found, the first fight with the Sabbat boss. The game is pretty easy though, the only times I found melee weapons completely ineffectual were on the sheriff and the German vampire hunter guy.

I never uninstalled it. Yet I hardly play it.

>melee character
>kill him with no problem
Fuck those things that look like werewolf though

Yes.

Don't play Nosferatu unless you enjoy walking around in sewers or Obfuscate all the time. Malk is far more entertaining

Oh sure, I played it back when it released. It felt clunky then even with the pause. I think the big issue is the AI was bad and I felt like your party didn't always obey their orders after you unpause.

Still a great game if you accept it for what it is and just enjoy the adventure

>Clan Quest Mod
>Final Nights
Oh dear god. I despise so much these overrated mods.

Play Bloodlines definitely, some of the best writing and world building in the whole industry, as well as incredible atmosphere overall. Play it as blind as you can, the only advice I would give is to literally not trust a single fucker in the whole game, or the ending will leave you unsatisfied. There are exceptions, but you'll see for yourself.

>fan made dialogue

This game starts of good, becomes horrible in the end. Investing in anything other than combat will get you nowhere. Game becomes impossibly hard near the end and has many flaws. Aslo this game literally has the most autistic fanbase ever.

This was such wasted potential. Great start, but becomes terrible, horrible, abysmal, aweful the further the game progresses.

Why is wesp doing this
Someone make him stop
please

>cabby is a friend of Jack
>cabby drops you off in the big city
>you get attacked by sabbat mongrels within seconds
>Nines just so happens to be there to rescue you
>Nines is also friends with Jack or at least on the same side
so what if Jack
>told cabby when and where to drop you
>let some rumors trickle in the direction of the Sabbat, telling them where the guy who just blew up their warehouse is going to be
>informed Nines of the whole thing and motivated him to go over there and take a look

Is Jack a manipulative prick who wanted to trick you into joining his (Nine's) side?
I also thought that maybe Lacroix circulated some information and Nines really was there just by chance, but from Lacroix's point of view you were already dead by then, so he had no reason to bother with that.

All Vampires are manipulative by nature.

What is these?

>investing in combat at all

lmao spot the fucking scrub

stealth and lockpicks or fuck off

Redemption and Bloodlines are not related.

Bloodlines is much better, but you absolutely MUST install the unofficial community made patch. It fixes glitches and adds so much content and balancing. It's one of the best mods ever made for any game. Period.

>a brujah with maxed celerity, potence and melee
>still can't rip a werewolf cub to shreds despite annihilating Sabbath hideout and the entire army inside earlier including some pretty powerful vampires plus a man with True Faith

Screenshot from the World of Darkness MMO that never happened.

>final nights

dude african clans are white lmao

>clan quest

quests are fucking dog shit and the writing as is the case with all fan made quests for any game sucks

Take it back

I assumed that the cab driver is familiar to all kindred, especially ones as popular as Jack or Nines. My guess is that Nines followed you to the Sabbat ambush, because Jack never actually tells you to join any faction, even if you question his views towards the prince or the Camarilla, he doesn't tell you to hate them or to share his opinion. Anarchs look up to Jack because he personifies what they are told the Anarchs represent, independence, free will to do whatever they want. But in their blindness, they are simply exploited into joining another person's cause, the Anarchs are a faction, a group that follows a de facto leader, so Anarch members ironically just end up following someone else's lead. Jack just sort of happens to have those ideals that Anarchs agree with.

Post yfw
Jack sacrifice himself for thin-bloods several months after the events of VtMB

I loved the music and the art design, textures, everything. Great atmosphere.

Also it's cool they included less popular clans

Screenshot from something that never happened? Are there Pirat Server or some Alpha Version or anything more?

That's some liberal, feel-good bullshit.

Never happened as in never made it out of development.

Literally what? Bloodlines isn't difficult.

A large majority of the last missions can be stealthed through with ease. Every clan has at least once discipline that makes the end of the game pretty easy. Even having high Auspex and a good gun is enough.

Use of blood heal and blood packs is also something you can do.

>Jack never actually tells you to join any faction, even if you question his views towards the prince or the Camarilla, he doesn't tell you to hate them or to share his opinion
He would be a shitty manipulator if he outright tells you what he wants from you.

There musst be more! Some Code to work with, anything. I will search.

What are some places to find decent mods for the game? I've heard about companion mods and the like, but is there something else that's interesting and worth trying out there?

Jack doesn't manipulate you. The player character of Bloodlines is important to the events of Gehenna, and Jack was told this by the Cabby.

So, Jack sets up the situation that leads to LA eventually becoming the stronghold for all the thinbloods of the world.

Nope, that's actually one of the Gehenna scenarios. Just like...
withering and judgement of Caine and player becoming (one of) the last vampires

No. Just get the plus patch if you want new content that doesn't fuck up the game or isn't half assed.

There are a few decent mods that add clothes and stuff to the game. Also, Clan Quests is a decent mod.

For the most part, this user is correct.

I have never pirated.

What's a safe place to get this?

I have this image of torrent sites as trojan infected shitholes.

I downloaded the game from Limewire.

>charisma 5
>manipulation 4
>presence 3
Definitely manipulative, but not much of a prick. At least not by vampire standards.

If you're going to be a pussy, you might as well just shell out the five dollars to buy it.

That's really not what the Anarchs are about. The Anarchs formed to be free from the Jyhad and the manipulation of elders/Antediluvians.

The majority of Anarchs formed the Sabbat.

Why would he do that?

Why the fuck would he do that?
Same for this

>I can't even get an antivirus: the post

Open it, dont be a little bitch, you earned it after all.

>player becoming (one of) the last vampires
As in everyone else dies or do they become humans again?

I wonder how many faggots have been fooled to not open it and didn't get the ending where you diablerize the antediluvian.
Must be in the hundred thousands now.

As you may know... or not. Thin bloods are one of the signs of Gehenna. He didn't want to thin blood "army" to get wiped out by the camarillia.


His death wasn't shown directly, but it is hgihly implied.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Malkavian > Nosferatu > Tremere > shit > everyone else

Whether you succeed or not...
>magic dies
>Disciplines fail
>Curse of Caine fades from the memory of history
>Humanity (always) survive

>he didn't open it

>tfw max celerity

Well, that's disappointing.
Thanks anyway anons.

>True Brujah take unsoakable lethal/aggravated damage whenever they use a ZA WARUDO tier power.
I just wanted to be Dio.

It's never specified. There are a few reasons I can fathom.

Jack likes chaos for it's own sake and he wanted to shove it along.

Jack thought what the Cabby told him was BS, but saw it as a good opportunity to kick the Camarilla and the Kuei-Jin from the Free State.

He thought the Cabby was actually Caine (which is confirmed in the Gehenna novel), and was doing what Caine said.

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Is final nights worth installing? New clans and disciplines add anything?

KEK
I'm not sure which one of them (orange nosferatu or white malkav) is vamp.

>who's coming

Honestly none of the mods are great they're just for when you've completed the game multiple times. Even then they don't change much.

nope, it's utter shit full of fan-edginess

I am.