Why the fuck did the Mario RPGs have to turn to shti as soon as Rosalina was introduced...

Why the fuck did the Mario RPGs have to turn to shti as soon as Rosalina was introduced? Imagine how much good they could've done for her

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It's weird that they tried to have lore in the mainline games with Galaxy. Rosalina could have been actually interesting in Paper Mario.

Too bad there isn't a Paper Mario since the Gamecube

fuck off MTP

RIP Paper Mario, you will be missed. Press F to pay respects

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>as soon as Rosalina shows up
>Rosalina has not appeared in a Mario RPG in any way, shape, or form

Nice try, Daisyfag

I think he's lamenting the fact that there isn't a good Mario RPG featuring Rosalina, and now there won't be because Mario RPGs became shitty.

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I know Super Paper Mario isn't a "real" paper mario, but it's still decent.

but every subsequent one has been trash, and it's trash comparing to TTYD and OG

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But MTP "hates" Rosalina, not the opposite.

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She's the reason we're in this mess in the first place.

Fuck her.

No, she isn't. Miyamoto restricting story imagination and the others coming with weird shit at him are.
The fact that the rpgs are with bland stories is evidence of myiamoto's quality control restricting their imagination.

>Miyamoto restricting story imagination and the others coming with weird shit at him are.

Rosalina's story triggered his autism on the issue

This.
>"You sneak book about rosaria into my gameru seriesu? Get ye gone story in all Mario games including Paper Marioru!!"

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>Mario was inspired by Popeye
>Popeye characters are all actors being put on random situations (this is canon by the way)
>Miyamoto wants the same for his own characters
Its not rocket science, what i don't understand is why he would be okay with Mario RPGs in general since they are all their own little lore pits

And just like Popeye, Mario is going to grow old and die in another 50 years or so anyways, so why not try to make it as good as possible before it bites the dust

The only games getting good are the 3D ones. Everything else is suffering because Miyamoto is handling it

>Paper Mario
Suffering

>Star Fox
Suffering

The only series he hasn't fucked up yet is Pikmin. That's the one game he's worked on that hasn't been shit

That's his only game he cares about and even then he doesn't really like to add a ton of story to it.

Except Koizumi has nothing to do with the paper mario series, it would be dumb to punish other developers for it. Also, myiamoto was in the wrong anyway in the SMG thing, since he gave Koizumi the liberty to do whatever he wanted, but aparently not the story, because who wants new characters when we have Mario and toads, right. Also, blame that guy with a toad fetish for paper mario being dead( Tabata was his name?).

So Rosalina lewds when?

*Tanabe was his name.

I feel bad for Koizumi. He went through story writing withdrawal and it ended up in a Mario game.

Just let him make another Zelda already.

good thing the M&L series exists.

now

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I wasn't feeling Paper Jam, I fear all Mario RPGs are dead.

M&L will probably be fine, it seems like they simply having a tough time when making the game due to the cross-over. Paper Mario still needs a comeback though.

So Rosalina is the ambassador to Miyamoto's retirement. And the brainchild of the writer that single-handedly made LoZ and Mario interesting for once.

Who'd have thought. I sure threw my devotion to the right woman.

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>That's the one game he's worked on that hasn't been shit

3 was still a step down from 2.

Fuck Rosalina, we need more Luma

I was thinking about this today:

Even if there was a "Luma Garden" app, I wouldn't be excited about it. It better have gratuitous Rosalina.

>And the brainchild of the writer that single-handedly made LoZ and Mario interesting for once.
>writer that single-handedly made LoZ interesting for once

All I see for LoZ after WW on wiki is special thanks for SS and supervisor for MM3D.

He left Zelda after WW and the series saw a decling in quality.

He worked wor LoZ until MM, where he practicaly made the game, then the series was given to the hack that rehashes OOT every game until BOTW, and he sent Koizumi to do something else (DK jungle Beat and super Mario sunshine).

More like after MM really. WW was Aonuma's real directorial debut and I hate it.

You would play as her to pet and feed your lumas.

Regardless of quality, the only OoT rehash Aonuma did was TP under fan pressure to copy OoT.

artist?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshiaki_Koizumi

Link's Awakening, SMG, and he was also Assistant Director on SM64.

Aonuma was in charge of Wind Waker, but Koizumi did chime in. After that he left completely.

I'd love to, but someone stole the capital f key from my keyboard

I can't believe he was a supervisor on MM3D.

There were so many stupid things Aonuma said and did and I cannot believe Koizumi didn't slap him upside the head for them.

He's too busy with Mario now. He probably just made sure the script wasn't fucked with.

Eh, maybe she would be the guide, shopkeeper, and racing attendant. Or Lubba could be the racing attendant and the Hungry Luma could be the shopkeeper, Rosalina still the guide/host/face of the game.

Playing as would be weird, seeing as then there's millions of Rosalina's out there racing their Lumas.

I thought that user was talking about recent stuff, like at least not older than Rosalina, so including LoZ confused me.

I will forever argue that WW is a rehash of OoT.

Reminder koizumi's career is ruined because of myiamoto's autism and "quality control" and Aonuma being a selfish faggot that wants to control everithing despite not having played the first game until the end and not knowing what makes Zelda games good. Koizumi was what made the games better than they already were, but now he is gone from Zelda and is still trying to convincente myiamoto to let him make a story(likely a reason why a Galaxy game is talking too long, not only because he wants to put a gameplay twist).

>Rosalina's Library
>swipe the NX screen to flip through pages

As someone who doesn't like WW but does TP, I'd like to hear this.

DESU I meant more playable Lumas, not having their own games

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Playable Lumas?
I...what? Nah, man, they aren't tough enough! They're just kids! Sure, they've got offense, but they don't really play like, say, SM3DW or normal Mario characters would. Always free floating and such.

>Boo in Mario Party
And that's how it would work mechanically speaking, but thematically, they're just better suited for side games. And again, they can't take hits.

Not saying much, but they can take hits in smash Bros.

It's a rehash to me because I think Zelda could've continued doing what Majora's Mask did and went in a completely different direction. Majora's Mask took all of OoT's assets and gameplay, but it still had a unique setting that wasn't Hyrule, a unique villain, and introduced its own major gameplay systems like the three days and transformations.

The problem is that OoT was LttP in 3D. Do some dungeons, unlock the master sword, do some more dungeons so you can fight Gannon/Gannondorf, save the princess. Then WW, and basically every major 3D Zelda game going forward, was patterened after OoT. They have to take place in Hyrule, they're all about Zelda, Gannondorf, the Master Sword, and all of the lore is tied back to OoT. In Wind Waker, every single character and race is in some way a throwback to OoT. It's more derivative than MM, a game reusing OoT assets, was with regards to its plot and setting.

Everything since Wind Waker had to be tied to OoT somehow. We never got anything like MM, like a Link's Awakening or Oracle game as a major 3D installment, where it moved away from retreading everything OoT brought into the series.

>Gannondorf
You just got GANNON BANNED

More like Banondorf, am I right or what?

Galaxy was the peak of the Mario series, then for some reason it was getting a little too interesting, so plots were banned all together

That's Smash.

Although it may not be considered a good paper mario game i would still consider super paper mario one of my favorite games

Same here, I can understand the dislike with it with the character designs & even the gameplay but it never gave me a full negative experience. Also Mimi's a qt.