>How to throw Fireball: input ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ WK HP HK LP SK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP in less than a 1/666 of second >The Fireball can be cancelled into a shirui-no-kensen by inputting ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →←↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →↘ ↙ ← → → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ HP LP MP WP HP SP WKWK HP HK LP SK HP LP MP WP HP SP WK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP before the animation ends. >Requires two stocks, two tech bars, two stamina bars, having your lifebar blinking purple and executing a reverse guard cancel first >And that's the most basic two-hit combo
>Why are you still playing Fighting Game 3rd Attack Xecutor champion edition arcade version regulation 1.7? the entire community already moved to the newest game, Fighting Game 3rd Attack Xecutor champion edition arcade version regulation 1.7'. Only for $60!
>Where's your $400 arcade stick?
And that's why fighting games are the worst videogame genre.
Well, besides everything OP saying doesn't making any sense, why fighting games communities are always the worse? extreme competition brings only the retarded or it's because of the giant roster of waifus?
Jayden Gray
Fighting game communities aren't the worst if they're just playing for real.
Problem is, casual fighting game players love to force house rules on others. >This win isn't legit, you used throws >Fireballs are cheap, it's not like you can punish them big time or anything >Everyone has to play like I do against the CPU on easy, otherwise they're just cheap Shit like that.
Brandon Johnson
started off in poverty life so lot of the pasty nu-males cant handle the thuggery
Logan Lewis
agreed
Lincoln Rodriguez
ButtStuff 2016
Christian Jackson
ur just wrong
Juan Peterson
>implying
Xavier Rivera
>implying
Wyatt Jenkins
donald trump will win the election, and this 5 proves it
Benjamin Lewis
Hillary
Luke Cook
Mitt Romney
Adam Flores
id play this game lol sounds fun
Carson Lee
this The point of the game is to win after all I would assume since every game is a fierce competition, this makes people angrier and more hostile, similar to the MOBA community, which is even worse
Daniel Long
Dat boi!
Henry Watson
oh look, it's this thread again
Luke Myers
>this thread again
Camden Martin
>The point of the game is to win after all This isn't even the issue with people who bitch.
The people who bitch about how you play don't actually have an interest in playing the game, they only care about the Ws they get at the end and nothing more.
That's why if they're winning they won't complain no matter the method they take, but if you win it's not legit. Just whiny players who refuse to take their losses like a normal person.
Ethan Rogers
/thread
Gavin Powell
any number other then 7[spoiler/] and shillary wins
Luke Harris
Clinton because I'm a filthy transexual, muslim, illegal, mexican woman on welfare and hate "real America".
gib money pls
Eli Williams
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Julian Phillips
Ron Paul
Ian Cruz
>it's a "Sup Forums is inhumanly bad at competitive anything" thread
Parker Jackson
This may be a joke, but people were seriously compaining about Ryu in smash because they couldn't into motions.
Jason Robinson
What did you expect? Of course the genre with by far the highest nigger population is going to be the most cancerous.
Joshua Morris
made me laugh.
funny to see plp born in 2000 here now
Joshua Lopez
Obama. ONE MORE TERM
Oliver Gray
>Sup Forums complains about casualization in modern games >Can't even do a basic hadouken motion
I knew you faggots were a bunch of frauds.
Sebastian Reyes
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Carter Campbell
o shit waddup!
Jeremiah Clark
...
Carson Jones
all of this is true but retards who like fighting shit will still deny it
Juan Bennett
To be fair i couldn't do the inputs because the gamecube has a shit d pad so i was forced to do a half circle with a control stick for the first time in my life.
Matthew Rodriguez
Time to 『Bait the Dust』 >no game ever has had a normal fireball motion that complex. Most if not all fighting games copy Street Fighter's ⬇↘ + Punch motion, and every game since the original Street Fighter has given the player a reasonable amount of time to perform this motion. >again, no fighting game in history has ever had a motion even as remotely complex as this, but if you can't pull of impressive combos yet then simply don't. Matches, even high level ones, have been won with normals alone. >special moves (ie fireballs) almost never require meter of any sort, and assuming a shirui-no-kensen is a typical super move you should only need it's respective meter to be filled to the level it requires >if your most basic 2 hit combo isn't jab>jab then you're playing a really shitty fighting game
>this argument can be applied to literally any other game that recieves sequels, hell not even games, phones, cars, televisions, any time there is an update or innovation made to something you already have, it is human nature to want the new one. Your argument is flawed, however, because retro and older fighting games often still have a huge fanbase and occasionally and active scene. Examples include Street Fighter 3: Third Strike, King of Fighters '98, and Marvel vs Capcom 2. Not to mention that regular updates to games keep them balanced and relevant, try asking an Ultra Street Fighter IV player to a game of Vanilla Street Fighter IV and see how they react. >my $400 arcade stick is still on the store shelf since I play pad. There were no arcades near me growing up so I got used to playing on a standard controller. Sticks don't instantly make you a better player, they exist only as an option for comfort and familiarity.
And above all else get gud
Wyatt Watson
The Zodiac Killer
Luis Nguyen
makes sense.
I'm a legal mexican immigrant and i will vote for trump.
fuck you.
Joshua Lee
fuck i hate neo generations that cry inputs are hard... they are fucking simple, you had to learn them because you spent money on the arcade, the game "forced" you to get good, get smart, having a competitive sense with random challengers
Julian Barnes
heh *grabs fightstick* *backflip while inputing it under .00001 miliseconds* download.....complete
>why are you playing X >everyone has already moved to X
You literally said the exact same thing.
Cooper Robinson
o shit waddap!
Wyatt Fisher
What is that new super called?
Christopher Young
I have never played fighting games but I can't understand why fighting game fans defend this. What's the point of having complex inputs like that? Yeah I know, hah hah git gud but what is the real reason the developers make it like that?
Camden Edwards
I'm muslim and I honestly want Trump to win.
WWIII will come that much quicker if he does.
Michael Moore
deez nutz lmao XD
Juan Thomas
Trump, the only logical choice
Ryan Cooper
...
Josiah Anderson
Why won't Americans play anything other than Street Fighter, Marvel and Mortal Kombat?
Joshua Jones
>A criminal >A walking meme Can I vote for myself
Alexander Green
Tbh I'm new to fighting games the are input are simple to do, but the combos are the complex, but you don't need long combo to win. It's good to know but not a guaranteed victory
Gavin Reyes
Pyron. Because what the Earth needs now is a ruler.
Noah Powell
>Sup Forums now hates Donald Trump what happened? >inb4 Sup Forums, Sup Forums wants Trump for different reasons
Kayden Hughes
neo-Sup Forums is full of SJWs
Owen Sanders
He's the exact sort of rich asshole who's been ruining the country for decades. We need less people like him in power, not more.
Nathaniel Williams
The post about survival is pretty legit though Don't try to tell me that survival is a good way to earn colors
So that they're hard to perform. It's the same reason why you move so fast in Quake and die so quickly in CS; having skill involved makes the game competitive.
I feel like a lot of people overestimate what a human being can do when it comes to fighting games. No one expects a newbie to be able to pull a super move out of their ass in the span of one frame. The player that can do that has got that shit in muscle memory from doing it so many times and even then might fuck it up. Pros are the ones who have practiced that shit for thousands of hours and even they fuck up their inputs here and there.
Jeremiah Thompson
One reason is balance.
Let's say you have an invincible antiair move that you can do with the push of a button
Any time the other person jumps you can react with a single press instead of an input.
Command grabs? One button grabs makes it a huge threat since now you can do it at any time instead of being limited by the input.
There is no inputs complex like in OP unless you're playing old KOF, that shit is gone though. You can also play simpler characters instead of the very complex ones. Which most people do anyways
Andrew Thompson
And the rich woman who's getting hundreds of thousands from various countries and corporations, as well as having obscenely wealthy bankers come out and support her is somehow better? >But 3rd party Johnson and Stein stand no God damn chance at all
David Anderson
>he doesnt even guilty gear
Asher Gutierrez
>hes bad because he has money You can't be serious
How is Trump pro-establishment if he wants to audit the fucking establishment?
Adam Foster
I only like Trump when he's winning.
Jayden Lopez
And before the usual response of "Well, why don't they just make the startup time longer then?" comes: You lose tons of functionality that way. Say goodbye to using moves in combos. Say goodbye to using moves as reversals. Etc.
Aaron Morales
>competitive game >you use cheese strategy >"cheao player!" >cheap player beat you
If anything it's the designers fault for making cheese strategies stronger, if they actually are. Then there is stuff like a skill-gate. Morgana and Blitzcrank are perma-banned in Silver ELO on LoL, but on higher ELOs you see people banning stuff that they hate or stuff that is "strong" atm.
Matthew Sullivan
Why?
I'm an ex-muslim and I wouldn't vote Trump for my parents sake.
Joshua Johnson
There is no game where playing "cheap" will be the weaker option. It applies to just about everything even. There is no cheese unless the game is legitimately broken.
If a game isn't actually broken there is always something you can do, even if it's just preventing the situation from popping up in the first place.
You either learn what's getting you and find out that you aren't in a completely hopeless situation, or you learn what's getting you and find out the game is broken as shit and accept it/drop it.
William Jackson
>you use cheese strategy The problem here is that people consider spamming a fireball over and over or using a mixup they're unfamiliar with "cheese". If someone is able to cheese you, it's because you refused to adapt to the situation. It's not the other player's or the game's fault at all.
Aaron Torres
This is hyperbole but I legitimately feel this way. The entry skill level is too high for me to not get bored just beginning.
Thomas Scott
>Person does something simple and easy to counter >Other person does nothing about it "It's cheap that you keep doing the thing that I refuse to adapt to"
Landon Collins
The only real difference each candidate makes isn't the direction in which things will go, but the speed.
Shit's doomed regardless, but a Trump presidency would speed the process along faster than a Hillary one would.
Hunter Williams
i want this on a t-shirt
Jose Harris
Except I agree about the guile one, dlc in fighting games sucks
Connor Richardson
The rich have never been ruining the country.
Politicians come from the middle class. The greedy middle class takes power and then votes for money.
Isaiah Nelson
>thinking a fireball has a hard motion
Jayden Parker
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Zachary Young
>wearing videogame clothing
Virgin
Hudson King
well we can't all wear cargo shorts and silk flame print shirts like you user
Jason Allen
>he can't ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ WK HP HK LP SK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP in less than a 1/666 of second and then ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →←↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →↘ ↙ ← → → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ HP LP MP WP HP SP WKWK HP HK LP SK HP LP MP WP HP SP WK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP before the animation ends.
I guess Sup Forums really is bad at fighting games
Hudson Thomas
i want a psychic force clone with online multiplayer
Kevin Rodriguez
This is why Smash is the best fighting game. It doesn't require autism to get the fucking moves down.
Juan Russell
>smash >fighting game
Jeremiah Brooks
Someone doesn't know how to combo or deal with DI.
Joseph Ward
Yeah, you pretty much nailed down why I don't care much for fighting games. They're only fun to play with friends anyway.
Daniel Brooks
>autism
Evan Adams
>Implying You playing Brawl or something?
You need combos and know how to deal with DI.
Landon Ross
It appears that pepe is up for a fight.
Wyatt Nelson
Brawl is my least favorite one, so no. I know it's a meme to like melee the most, but I do. 4 is pretty good too though. Original is good.
What the fuck is DI? Why do you keep throwing that term at me like you expect me to know it?
Lincoln Harris
>smash >fighting game
Jaxon Adams
Directional Influence.
When you hit an opponent they can have some control over the angle they will go flying at.
If you do combos in Melee or 4 you have to compensate for DI to get followup hits.
Smash 64 doesn't have it.
Even if you play Smash on the most basic level there is still things to learn as you play to get better. Even if you use items all day there is still a learning curve to the game and dismissing learning at all as "autism" just shows you're the kind of person that will dismiss anyone better at you in a game.
AKA no fun faggot.
Tyler Rogers
>2016 >Not being able to perform simple inputs and having a 40 hour a week job
kill urself OP
Jeremiah Morris
> Not being able to > input ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ WK HP HK LP SK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP in less than a 1/666 of second >The Fireball can be cancelled into a shirui-no-kensen by inputting ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →←↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →↘ ↙ ← → → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ HP LP MP WP HP SP WKWK HP HK LP SK HP LP MP WP HP SP WK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP before the animation ends. >Requires two stocks, two tech bars, two stamina bars, having your lifebar blinking purple and executing a reverse guard cancel first >And that's the most basic two-hit combo
Wow, what a scrub Opie
Easton Cox
>reverse guard cancel first >Not using you fuzzy guard cancel in its place
Holy shit ur bad
Ayden Sanders
What is the hardest input in a fighting game? I honestly think it's some of Arcana Heart 3's moves.
Fiona has a command combo that's almost a guarenteed one hit kill, but the problem is the timing is so fucking precise I have literally never seen anyone land it outside of a Youtube video. Meanwhile. Yoriko has her fucking nonsense pentagram that makes very little sense and is almost impossible to do under pressure. Pic related.
For those that don't get it, you have to do the middle command and then combo it IMMEDIATELY into the bottom commands. And the timing is really fucking strict to get it to work.
Justin Miller
Prove it isn't.
>autism
Feels good not having it.
Xavier Miller
>There are people that think this comic is fact
If it's so easy, beat a top player doing this. You would be rich user!
Easton Hill
>He can't ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← →← → ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↑ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← ↓ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ ← → ↑ ↓ ↔ ↕ ↖ ↗ ↘ ↙ WK HP HK LP SK LK MK MP HP LP MP WP HP SP WK WP WK SP HP LP LK LP in less than a 1/666 of second
