All his flanderized appearances led me to believe he was some sort of stoic badass like Lightning

All his flanderized appearances led me to believe he was some sort of stoic badass like Lightning.

Turns out in his original game he's just a whiny teenage bitch.

...whatever-

isnt it part of the game where he stops being an edgy cunt when he cucked seifer?

Wouldn't that mean they made his character better later?

Maybe if they made a proper sequel to FF8. Flanderizng him into something he's not is silly.

Dont remember. I only remember him being Sasuke before Sasuke existed.

I don't recall him ever being whiny in the game. In fact, your stoic remark is right on the money.

>Stoic: a person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining.

Nearly all the complaints from the rest of the group are that he doesn't complain or vent his feelings to them, and just stoically internalizes everything.

>"I don't recall him ever being whiny in the game."

>10 minutes into the game
>"NO ONE WILL REMEMBER ME!"
>Runs off like a child in front of his teacher and some classmates
>There wasn't anything that happened yet besides losing to Seifer

This is reversed, did you actually play the game?
or did you just choose all the conversation options you hated?
Squall just wanted to get shit done, that's why he was always annoyed by everyone else's antics

All his flanderized appearances led me to believe he was some sort of stoic badass like pre-shittysequels Cloud.
Turns out in his original game he's just a whiny teenage bitch. And also have a vagina apparently.

>that one time in Disk 1 where he gets so caught up in his own thoughts that he has an outburst
>it only happens once
>the rest of the game he's hiding what a mess of conflicting emotions he is while leading a mercenary force from victory to victory

>NO ONE WILL REMEMBER ME

I don't remember this ever happening. And the other posters are correct; he's never a whiny bitch, his problem is that he internalizes everything and ends up looking like an edgy cunt to everyone, which everybody else fucking calls him out on.

>you will never play dissidia arcade because Japan is too selfish to put it on the ps4

>le squall is so emo meme
but you're wrong
>lol i cant remember sry

>squall
>stoic

Did you even play the game? The guy is a fucking sperg. Granted he gets shit done but if he even thinks about angsting the entire party immediates rips his shit and makes fun of him telling him to lighten up.

He's a socially awkward teenager

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"squall is a bad, so therefore lighting is good"

yeah, sure user

Let's just stick to the real discussions guys

9 = 6 > 5 > 10 = 7 > 12 > 3 > shit > 8 = 4 > 1 > 13 > 2

Truth. Squall is easily one of the most awkward FF protagonists. All his dialogue is either strictly business and tactics, being quiet and blowing people off, or attempting to be lighthearted and coming off as a goober.

That's why he's the best, though.

Clearly he inherited his awkward from his dad.

So, he has a defined personality. That's bad somehow.

What are you talking about? He spergs out because he's doesn't understand why Zell, Rinoa, and co. actually were mourning seifer, an enemy that put their lives into danger numerous of times. He acts like a complete sociopath emotionless robot.

You're only a whiny bitch if you do it out loud.

Squall does not.

>he's just a whiny teenage bitch
No, he isn't. He screams from the inside, likes things his way, tries to empathize but fails, and he comes off as an ass. Awkward, but best protagonist in FF.

That's like 30 hours into the game, what the fuck are you talking about?

FUCK YOU SQUALL! YOU HAD ONE JOB! FUCK THE GODDAM SEXY TEACHER WHO WANTS YOUR DICK! GOD.FUCKING.DAMMIT!. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>good leader
>skilled
>intelligent
>professional
>respected by everyone

b-but he's emo!

it's kind of like how Cloud was made into a generic stoic badass, and then you play FFVII and realize he used to have a personality

He's fine, really. He is basically the popular guy in a japanesse highschool forced to hang out with a bunch of oddities and rejects while trying to make the best out of it as the average bully-jocks constantly try to kill him.

Now NOT banging Quistis is just bullshit. I am gay and even I would bang Quistis, you just don't skip on that shit, what the fuck Squall.

Well, to be fair the Cloud that gets taken into Dissidia is the Cloud that still believes himself to be a SOLDIER, at which point he was trying hard to be a massive cunt to look cool and keep on his denial trip.

Wait there was a disidia arcade ? Did it get a PS4 port ?

no user thats when they are at galbadia garden and its thought seifer is most likely dead
everyone mournes him and treats him differently
squall doesnt want to end up on the receiving end of the pity party should he fall

He knew Quistis pretty well so he probably had a reason to tell her to fuck off. The game kind of weirdly handles the whole thing afterwards too with Quistis going "oh i was totally just trying to replace your older sister but i forgot".

>Squall is the only whiny, introspective, teenage Final Fantasy protagonist
I love this meme.

And then you look like an idiot for using this line as a way of saying he had personality because it was a localization change and the original line was more of a generic let's-go.

>whiny teenage bitch

How wrong you are.

The original FFVIII story has plenty of issues. Mostly tied to Rinoa. But the western translation made it even worse. There are some parts where Squall is actually determined and tells people to fuck off. But in the English translation, they just have him say 'whatever'.

Weeell...

Oh right, she is a blue mage. Pretty much all blue mages are weirdos.

Or a mix between arabs and spics, so I guess it goes long ways.

The deal with sexy teacher characters like that is they don't actually want to fuck. They're teasing you, and when you finally whip out your cock they laugh at your tiny penis.

You don't understand. I'm Italian, the sexy teacher, or "pornoprofessoressa" was a status symbol, a sort of holy grail when we were 14. If you ask to many italians about sqaull, "why the fuck he didn't fuck Quistis" will be the first answer you'll ever get.

he was very concerned with being professional. Student-teacher relationships aren't.

The impression i have is that usually female teachers that want to fuck their students enjoy the power they have over the student. They usually get bored of the student after they graduate because the student starts to get rebellious. Of course Quistis waited after Squall became a SeeD so she probably had other kinks.

THey better not cut that line in the remake

yeah agreed

Imagine playing FF8 without being able to read Squall's thoughs

He doesn't say anything most of the time then radomly just spergs the fuck out

Quistis was basically just a year older than Squall (if that). She just had a crush on him in the same way multiple women in the garden did and eventually Rinoa did. Squall was 'tall dark and stoic' which Japanese self insert stories always think is the ideal man.

I see Quistis as being just a placeholder until Rinoa comes along. Of course, this doesn't come across well because, despite Kitase thinking FFVIII is a love story, it really isn't. Most of the story is crazy scifi, war and time travel. With shitty illusions to teenage affection thrown in the background with Quistis and Rinoa. Its sad that Selphie and Irvine have a more defined love story than anyone connected to Squall.

Someone should make a mod for that. Preferably not me because I'm shit.

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That sounds like bullshit though because Cid presumably gave him shit for sounding like a faggot it both versions.

Want to know the deal with Zell?

He's an outgoing, hot blooded guy who is singled out by the biggest bully in the school, can't stand being called "chicken", owns a red jacket and uses a hoverboard, and has regular conversation with a mad scientist who experiments with time travel. A late game solo mission has a requirement that he be in a certain place at a certain time.

He's actually a homage to Marty McFly from Back to the Future

>lightning
>badass

>that whole part where Squall complains about grown ups i his head while listening to the timber maniacs editor

This game is so hilarious sometimes

Eh Rinoa and Squalls love story is passable if you actually drag Rinoa everywhere. They have a ton of optional scenes. Even then you have to take all the correct love choices for them seem to have some kind of growing affection because you can also tell her to fuck off all the time. If you dont taker her itll be pretty forced though because they barely ever talk othervise. I think square was trying out some kind of early romance plot that was optional originally, like BG2 had. But then decided its part of the main plot and you cant say no.

...and you will never measure up to him...

Quistis is just 18, yes. She has a crush on Squall because she's just a teenage hoe that, despite being mature and intelligent for her age, still hasn't developed emotionally because she's a 18 year old hoe.
Finally, Quistis has forever felt trapped in her role of a teacher-despite-her-age and resents to a degree not being able to experience normal gurl things like Rinoa, which she admits when she expresses relief over being kicked out from teacherhood.

TL:DR Squall is a hot dude in her age range, and that's about as far as that went, which I guess Squall could tell as they were inherently incompatible by japanesse logic of stoic guys can only bang dumb chicks.

i played ff once, it was boring as fuck