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>"Hi, we're the best games in our respective series' but are denied that position because of nostalgia-glass-wearing contrarians and casual dudebro shitters unable to accept the truth."

Quake 4 was not a good successor to Quake III Arena

Not sure if best, but both were good.

Doom 3 isn't given the credit it deserves, but It's definitely not the best.

>this pasta is already a year old

damn

Doom 4 is the best.
Prove me wrong

why don't you judge it on its own merits instead of comparing it to other games?

You made this same thread not even hours ago.

>New quake will be a hero game
Makes me sad desu

Doom 3 is really fun in VR ironically
it finally found its niche over a decade later

ID-TECH FPS POWER RANKINGS
*Includes ID published games*

>GOD TIER
Quake 3
Quake 2
Doom
>HIGH TIER
Hexen
Doom 2
Quake
D44M
Doom 64
Quake Live
>MID TIER
Wolfenstein: The New Order/The Old Blood
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Quake 4
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
Hexen 2
Wolfenstein 3D
>LOW TIER
Doom 3
Hovertank 3D
Rage
Heritic
>BUTT TIER
Brink
Wolfenstein

>Wolfenstein
>bad
GTFO

I mean, I'm pretty sure it's the only ID game that was removed from the Steam store.

Were you thinking of Wolfenstein 3D?

It's not as good as I and II.

>Quake 2
At god tier? Isn't it just kind of middleish? Just me?

I firmly believe D44M should join its brothers in God Tier, but otherwise that is one good goddamn list.

Wolfenstein reboot is a s h i t game

DOOM > D44M > DOOM 2 > DOOM 3

Doom 2 is completely inferior to its predecessor in every way. Godawful level design, too.

He wasn't talking about the reboot you illiterate imbecile.

What are you on about? Doom2 level design is fantastic. I played both of them to death back in the early 90s and I only remember four levels of Doom and every single level of Doom 2. Doom levels are mostly just disorganized corridors, Doom 2 have more open spaces, more levels structured to a theme, and more gimmicky fun levels(with exception of Abyss). Also Doom 2 have more enemies and the super shotgun, which is the coolest shotgun in all of gaming.

sorry but the original Quake is still the best FPS of all time.

The four Wolfensteins are clearly labeled, first of all, and the user said "GTFO" at the idea of "Wolfenstein" being in the bad tier, a tier which only has the shitty Wolfenstein reboot.

Take a closer fucking look next time you retard.

Wolfenstein: The New Order/The Old Blood is in Mid Tier.

Are you genuinely this fucking retarded and braindead or are you just fucking with me? Because you've succeeded.

Doom 3 is an enjoyable shooter campaign, as is Resurrection of Evil, but only if you give yourself unlimited stamina and turn on auto sprint.

Quake 4 on the other hand is mediocre as fuck.

>GOD TIER
>Quake 2
stopped reading there

>Can't play Resurrection of Evil because my screen goes black every time I try to use the cube

that's antithetical to the thread

rage is underated too

No, 2009 Wolfenstein is GOAT

>MID TIER
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Go jump in a fire

I tell it like it is.
I mean, just look at mid tier:
>Splash Damage games (Return, Q4, Q-Wars)
>Meh sequel to Hexen
>Old ass original Wolfenstein 3D

Pretty much, every game in this category isn't bad enough to be in Low or Butt, but isn't good enough to be in mid. They're just... ok. New Order/Old Blood fits that to a T. The two don't do anything fantastic, but are completely competent games that have their moments.

That tier also has Brink.

And this is the problem with Doom 3.
>Oh man, it's great with the Duct Tape mod
>It's actually good with BFG Edition, trust me
>Play it with these specific settings, and it's pretty good though
>It's great on VR. No, I mean it this time.

The fact that you need to do so much shit in order to make the game worth playing is telling. You can do shit to any game to make them better. The difference is that the higher up games on this list either have more to work with than Doom 3, or are already better than Doom 3 out of the box, no matter what you do to make Doom 3 better.

The fact that D44M's Screaming Skeletons are actual Screaming Skeletons puts it above Doom 3, although not above the classics.

It is above Plutonia Experiment and 64 thought

On its own merits, its not a quake game. but it wants to be called a quake game.

its not a good sequel to quake 3.

>doom 3
>low tier

Fuck off faggot.

Doom is casual. Has more auto aim than CoD.

>Doom 3 is really fun in VR ironically
How? Why?
>it finally found its niche over a decade later
Doom3 is AAA mass market success with over 4 million sales on PC, not a niche title.

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Quake 1 and Doom 1 blow them the fuck away

Any game does, really.

HOLY SHIT, TALKING VIDEOGAME BOXES

Remember when PC games still came in HUEG boxes?

RtCW and D44M are god tier, switch quake with quake 2 and you have a list.