4 hours into this, just killed Psycho Mantis - when does the game get good?

4 hours into this, just killed Psycho Mantis - when does the game get good?

from the first minute of the game

Just play the VR missions. They offer more gameplay than the story mode.

>VR missions
>they're not in VR

dropped

This or at the very least the first codec call. This game is fucking baller as fuck.

It's already been good for 4 hours

four years ago, on the Hudson river

The remake is better/more fun.

Kill yourself

And the faggot OP just got btfo'd.

(You)

It gets worse from then on user.
>Backtrack all the way for a sniper rifle.
>the comms tower part
ptsd

>nostalgiafags

Explain why the remake is better

When you stop shitposting on Sup Forums and actually enjoy the best MG game

Position thy head beneath the tires of a moving vehicle at once

JoJo reference?

Gameplay, consistency, VA, soundtrack, actually having faces. No actual reason to play the original except to see how they compare.

Better graphics also its more true to the other games of the series with the crazy cutscenes and movie like quotes mgs 1 on ps1 was just a shitty die hard ripoff at best and dont even get me started on the boss fights which are hard only because of shitty tank controls

>actually enjoy the best MG game
We're talking about MGS1 though, not MGS2.

Psycho Mantis?

>VA
>Soundtrack
Holy fuck no the re recorded voice acting is terrible. The soundtrack sounds like generic techno from a cheap porno.

>graphix fag

Gameplay is also another point he failed with. Twin Snakes is brokenly easy with the M9 and first person aiming; something the original game's level design and bossfights (which remain unchanged) were never designed around.

>Holy fuck no the re recorded voice acting is terrible.
Better than,
>Ohh shit, oim sew Britesh
and
>Ha-soo, me very Chinese for some reason.
Grey Fox was rubbish too.

Because it's easier and I'm retarded

But MGS2 is my second favourite.

It's not graphics fagging to want discernible shite.

>Twin Snakes is brokenly easy with the M9 and first person aiming
So don't use them? Is it broken because you can use a machine gun too? Or a gameshark to make Snake invincible?
It's nice not having it feel as restricted as MG1 if you so choose.

>actually having faces
>fuck up Meryl's hair
>fuck up Solid's eyes
>Liquid's face is completely different from Solid's which makes no fucking sense since they're clones

The remake sucks cock user

>MGS2
Raidenfag

>fuck up Meryl's hair
>fuck up Solid's eyes
How so?
>Liquid's face is completely different from Solid's which makes no fucking sense since they're clones
Whut. They're exactly the same model. You can tell, because they actually have faces.

>just don't use them!
>likening gameplay mechanics the entire game revolves around to using invincibility cheats

>the entire game revolves around
You just pointed out that it doesn't.

No no its not.

Liquid was still british, gray foxs new VA was awful everyone voice acting sounded boring and lifeless with no emotion in it. Did we play the same game?

>which makes no fucking sense since they're clones
Well desu in 4 snek looked different from BigBoss too
Only Solidus was a 100% identical copy

>Kojima is still trolling people this hard 15 years later

>Liquid was still british
Naomi. Of course Eli was still British. Really not sure who else you think sounded lifeless, except for Otacon who was rubbish in both versions.

They certainly did have different upbringings, which does change people a lot. But still irrelevant in this case.

I pointed out that it didn't in the original MGS1, not Twin Snakes, where all they did was copy and paste MGS2's mechanics into a game not originally designed with them in mind, which automatically makes the remake inferior to the original. That's not even taking into account the myriad other issues the remake suffers with that have already been mentioned.

>I pointed out that it didn't in the original MGS1, not Twin Snakes
Which you then then said had the same level design as 1. You can't have it both ways.
>which automatically makes the remake inferior to the original.
By giving you an option? Normal people (not wearing blinders) would say that's a boon.
>That's not even taking into account the myriad other issues the remake suffers with that have already been mentioned.
Which are also folly for the most part.

>he fell for the "MGS is a good series" meme

TTS has shitty plastic-face graphics with cyan tint on everything, shitty new OST, shitty redone VA job and translation, and gameplay's fucking butchered by mixing new movements with unchanged map layout and encounters, with the FP-aiming literally breaking most fights. You also do not level up in the game anymore.

And lets not forget the completely terrible Matrix-flavor cutscenes. People claiming they "fit the later installments" are fucking blind idiots who understand jack shit about characterization or balance.

>You can't have it both ways.
Except I can. It's not my fault you're too stupid to be able to differentiate between level design and gameplay mechanics.
>By giving you an option? Normal people (not wearing blinders) would say that's a boon.
Oh boy, it's the "anybody who prefers the original is just nostalgiafagging" argument. Not heard that one before! I'm well aware that not every aspect of the original game has aged gracefully, especially the fixed camera angles in some instances, but I'd still rather play it over the remake, as would a lot of other people.
>Which are also folly for the most part.
Sterile as fuck art direction, inferior music/VA work and Matrix cutscenes on top of the copy and pasted gameplay are all perfectly valid criticisms of the remake.

Venom didn't care about Quiet.

I will point out this fact in every single mg/s thread until all mg/s discussion dies.

>Grey Fox was rubbish
His voice acting was way more memorable in the original. Should've changed the darpa chiefs VA instead.

>TTS has shitty plastic-face graphics
Blame the era. Like how almost all UE games look wet and shiny.
>shitty new OST,
Opinion.
>shitty redone VA job and translation
False.
>and gameplay's fucking butchered by mixing new movements with unchanged map layout and encounters, with the FP-aiming literally breaking most fights.
So don't use those things, and it's magically unbutchered.
>You also do not level up in the game anymore.
Yea, that's a bummer.
>who understand jack shit about characterization or balance
You seem to forget that Snake is a legend at that point already who has done rad shit in Outer Haven and Zanzibar Land.

>It's not my fault you're too stupid to be able to differentiate between level design and gameplay mechanics.
But you're the one too stupid to understand they're not forced?
>Oh boy, it's the "anybody who prefers the original is just nostalgiafagging" argument. Not heard that one before! I'm well aware that not every aspect of the original game has aged gracefully, especially the fixed camera angles in some instances, but I'd still rather play it over the remake, as would a lot of other people.
Well refute it, or understand that you're just spouting an opinion.
>Sterile as fuck art direction
It's a military base?
>inferior music/VA work
Opinion and wrong.
>Matrix cutscenes
Are a little silly, but nothing out of the ordinary for the series. Plus, TTS was how Kojima intended it all to be.

>Should've changed the darpa chiefs VA instead.
You mean Decoy Octopus? And yea, Sigint was a bit lousy.

This is blacked porn

>It's not graphics fagging to want discernible shite.
Everything is pretty discernible in MGS. You know mostly everyone here loves the game and you want attention.

You are wrong.

This guy's idiocy really knows no bounds

>But you're the one too stupid to understand they're not forced?
>So don't use those things, and it's magically unbutchered.

>one of my criticisms of this game is that they really fucked up
>yeah but that criticism doesn't count if you just pretend aren't there!

>Well refute it, or understand that you're just spouting an opinion.
So you're just cementing your retardation even further with this by saying I have to 'refute' your assertion that the only people who enjoy the original over the remake are blinded by nostalgia, even though there's been numerous valid criticisms of the remake offered up in the thread so far. Good job, champ.

>It's a military base?
How does this change the fact that the art direction is drab and sterile compared to the original, which is the same fucking setting?

>Opinion and wrong.
Tracks like the main menu theme, Cavern and Warhead Storage are iconic of MGS1 and the series, not to mention The Best is Yet To Come, which was a fantastic opening transition and ending for the game. Twin Snakes already fell down horrendously by not having any of those and having a completely unmemorable soundtrack that doesn't even touch the original.

One only needs to compare Gray Fox's final scene between the two versions to see which one is painfully inferior.

>TTS was how Kojima intended it all to be.
[citation needed]

>Blame the era.
No, I won't. There's plenty of early 00s console games with way less waxy graphics, like all the SH games.
>opinion
no ENCOUNTER = insta shit.
>False
no, positive.
>Just pretend those things don't exist!
that's not how it works you little shit.
>You seem to forget that...
No, I don't. He was always the "normal guy" in the middle of freaks of many kinds, emerging as the winner just because of how good he is.
TTS turns him into literal 16yo moron.

ok

>waxy graphics
Stop giving this fag attention.

It's good from the second that Konami logo shows up on the screen. It seems you just need to re-learn what makes a good game, you've clearly spent too much time here and it's corrupted you.

how about you just go back to leleddit and then kys?