I was expecting it to be shit but it's honestly pretty fun

as much as Sup Forums will shit on this game, in 2 years practically every RPG game will have warpstrikes. This game already set a precedent.

by no means is it a perfect game, but it's the first fun final fantasy since xii.

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Fun is not a legitimate reason to enjoy something you fucking autist.

yes it is

Sup Forums in a nutshell

oh boy

>thefreedictionary.com/fun
>1. Enjoyment; amusement: We had fun at the beach.
>2. A source of enjoyment, amusement, or pleasure: Was the party fun?

Are you saying "enjoying" a game isn't a legitimate reason to "enjoy" a game?

>in 2 years every RPG will have FFXV's garbage combat
Even the worst Tales game has better combat than FFXV. The way combat works in FFXV is just embarrassing. They couldn't even rip off Kingdom Hearts properly.

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>Sup Forums the vidya

Explain why its fun instead of just saying it's fun.

The whole point about this place is to have a discussion.

The game causes the release of endorphins in my brain due to various subconscious triggers.

XV has the best combat in the series.

Fuck off you shitter

>Even the worst Tales game has better combat than FFXV.
Go back and play Zestiria and Tempest and say that to my face famlan.

I have fun undoing knots and untangling wires. You can't tell me I don't.

i like warpstriking through stuff

it's fun

also just the world itself is very charming, 3 support characters are endearing. the storyline is dumb "lol reclaim ur throne" shit but it's still visually well done with all the summons and shit. combat in this game is retarded but it often makes me laugh.

also this guy is right . it's a good thing they didn't copy kingdom hearts, because ffxv has a better combat system. I'm not even going to acknowledge tales lol.

you can warpstrike with a masamune in this game. that's enough for it to be fun for me.

What I really want to know is why there's a ten-year timeskip, and EVERYONE dies at the end. What was the point of that whole adventure? And that was shittiest final boss fight I've ever seen!

I agree. It's really fun.
I thought I would get bored, or dislike it for some reason, but I don't.
The only reason I went into the game with these kind of thoughts were anti-XV shitposters anyway.

The music is great.
The gameplay is fun to play.
I enjoy the story and the characters.
And there are lots of nice moments.

i agree that's it's pretty fun
until Chapter 9 happened.
the game actually became worse than FF13 by that point

The combat is a curious thing in this game. When you see it, it looks like shit. When you start playing it feels worse than shit. After you start optimizing, learning, using magic and overall understand how it works it is pretty fucking fun. Also I love how strong magic is in this game. You can wipe massive enemy groups of the map with fira x3. Also combat is way better when you realize to set combat camera position to far.

Honestly this is true, in a weird way I thank the XV shitposters.

I had it so reinforced in my mind that this game was going to suck. I literally was staring at the screen to order the game and kept repeating under my breath, "this game is gonna suck, this game is gonna suck, I KNOW it's not gonna be good..." but still bought it just because i needed the closure of knowing that FF was actually dead.

Basically my expectations were below sea level, I honestly started the game expecting to be thoroughly disappointed. Instead what I got was a really fun game that completely modernizes final fantasy. By no means perfect, but I believe in Final Fantasy again after this game.

if they can make ff16 building off of all the good aspects of xv, I will by very satisfied.

it's pretty obvious you haven't reached Chapter 9 yet

i thought the boy band was just buying time until saucegay could sacrifice himself I don't know where you got the impression that they died

yeah that's the first thing. you see a video and think "this looks dumb". then you start killing low level enemies and think "lol is this devil may cry?". Then at a certain point everything clicks and you're having the most fun in a final fantasy game in years.

yeah and you can just travel back in time.

i'm not gonna pretend there aren't bad parts of the game, but the core design of the thing is most important. in that regard the game succeeded even if there are parts that are tiresome.

why would i want to travel back in time?
to do more worthless quests and look at empty deserts

how is the villain?
as good as X/7?
or not that good?

I am surprised how much I like it. A lot of quests have dialog no matter how small it seems and I actually like the combat. Real surprised how much I liked that first dungeon.

he's wears a fedora and teleports behind you

Uh. He's quite a character.

That's safely all I can say. Personally I thought he was bland as fuck.

that doesn't sound that great.
i am replaying FF X right now, and i forgot how good of a villain Sin is.
the way they build him up in the CG cutscenes destroying everything and killing everyone.
and Seymour was also an asshole.
too bad about XV

because half the game doesn't even take place on half the map. you sound like you didn't even like either part of the game. for me the majority of the fun is just fucking around on the map, the story quests are more like a backburner thing I just do whenever I feel like.

this guy isn't joking. but yeah he's actually a great villain

sin was fucking boring. ardyn is a lot more charming.

Guys I swear the combat looks like shit and feels like shit for the first 10 hours but then it feels really amazing buy the game now ignore how the demo makes you feel!

I actually recently played FFX for first time to completion a week ago and I can tell you XV easily surpasses that game.
FF7 isn't anywhere near as good as people think it is and has worse gameplay than FFX but better story.

>current year
>still listening to Sup Forums

i didn't like either part because the map is visually the blandest i have ever seen.
if you make a open world it better be varied and pretty

this is actually good advice though.

you can't fully grasp the combat system just playing the demo. you need to actually spend a good amount of time with the game and once you fully "get it", the game becomes fun as fuck. It's not like it isn't fun in the beginning, it just feels somewhat basic at first.

then I really don't know what's wrong with you because I keep looking at the world thinking "holy shit this is so cool" and doing random shit and having a good time, looking at random stuff in the distance and thinking "man I want to see what's there".

you just sound like you don't like things in general. i imagine sex must be terrible and boring with you.

>sin
>boring
>giant leviathan that destroys everything citys, armys, and shit
>also your dad
>boring

dude i fucking loved Sin, granted i do have a fetish for giant leviathans.

>fun is not a legitimate reason to enjoy a medium that's literally all about having fun

because after having played a ton of Open World games, nothing feels impressive about FFXV.
it might have been impressive during the PS3 era.
the shitty invisible walls don't help either.

yeah it's just boring.

it's like godzilla or something but not as cool. no real ersonality or anything, just wanton destruction. "Sin" just sounds too much like the typical Japanese fiction threat, which represents yet another form of Japan coping with the fact that they were nuked in 1945. All of Evangelion's angels are somewhat based on this, the whole concept of Godzilla, the entire Kaiju genre. The wanton destruction represents the violence of nuclear war that Japan probably understands better than any other nation.

i mean i get it and it's kinda cool but yeah it just bored me.

>Guys it's ok the game gets good 20 hours in
Man, Japan really got that "single-player MMO" feel down eh?

The whole concept around yu yevon/final aeon/and the outer shell was pretty cool, but everything else felt like it could've been executed so much better.

well i'm sorry you feel that way. all in all I'm having a very fun time just fucking around and barely even touched the story. many other people feel the same way.

that's not what I said. the game is fun from the get go, it just gets more fun as you keep playing and understand the game better.

i had fun with open world like 5 hours.
then i realized it was constant repetition, combat didn't help either

>The game is fun from the get-go
Except you were just saying that the demo combat, which is the combat at the get-go, is not representative of the later combat in an attempt to sway someone who hated the demo

Fun is a perfectly legitimate reason to enjoy entertainment, user. The issue with fun comes into play when one attempts to use it as a means to claim something's superiority without providing any form of reasoning. You can enjoy something that may objectively be shit as long as you don't attempt to pretend that your enjoyment of its shittiness somehow makes it better than anything else.

You are confusing things, dear newfag. Fun is a legitimate reason to enjoy something. But the term "fun" itself has no meaning, since fun is an ultimate result of a synergy of a multidue systems or parts or mechanics in a videogame, and for each person this combination is different. Therefore the word fun conveys no information at all and without additional elaboration has no place in a serious videogame appraisal. That's why "fun is a buzzword" was born on Sup Forums.

It is, however, perfectly normal to use it in a casual conversation between people.

>Fun is a perfectly legitimate reason to enjoy entertainment, user
Well, no, semantically that's not true. Saying something is fun is expressing that you enjoy it, not explaining why.

It'd be like someone saying "why is this joke funny" and you responding with "because I laughed."

It's honestly one of the comfiest games I've ever played. While I'm only about 3 hours in Regis just died (?) I find it to be a great game and find it to be charming to say the least.

While Noctis sort of plays the typical trope of an emotionless final fantasy main character (in regards to say Lightning, Squall, Cloud, etc) he also has a bit of spoiled snark in him which, on the surface kind of makes him a cunt at times if you wish, but I find it refreshing because I would not have been able to stand another emotionless barbie doll MC.

Also, maybe I'm just not the best at it, but the combat is surprisingly engaging. Warping is a blast and an interesting combat feature though, on that, I wish Warping was more of an environmental factor in the game--something more akin to say Corvo's blink in Dishonored. I wish I was able to warp myself atop clifftops and/or rooftops of forgotten buildings just for the sake of being able to do it.

While I thought I'd hate it at first, I genuinely enjoy the dialogue between the characters. Yes it's your typical cringy English attempt in a jrpg, however, the chemistry between the characters is made known through a very 'bro-like' relationship that they wrote and developed very well. The small little quips, unique personality traits, and puns add only more to this.

The only real gripe I have with the game so far is the car and how I'm not able to drive it. Seems like a GIANT wasted opportunity. They could've kept it all the same, still hooked to the road so as to keep players from destroying it off roading, but for god's sake, if you're going to have a huge feature such as exploration of a giant world, at least let me have some hand in it.

So far it's a 9/10 for me
>surprisingly engaging combat
>fun character interactions
>odd use of outside story/lore that shouldn't have been separate
>car
>fishing reminds me of Okami
>graphics are a bit disappointing, but I'm on ps4 not ps4 plus or whatever

Also, one question as I'm only 3 hours in, how should I be allocating my points? I'm currently just working on Noct's abilities but I'm thinking I should start dumping in party attributes (party is x times stronger/more health/more vitality)

I don't want to get screwed over so please help.

I'm having fun so far but I'm looking for something along the lines of a weapons guide or movelist. I just got machinery - does it behave like magic and hurt my teammates? Why are there two attacks - something like poison or lightning but if i hit the warp button it fires projectiles?

Also, it seems like although its one button combat you can guarantee certain moves coming out with the stick - how do I guarantee I'll get the big AoE swings with the two hander swords for instance? I know you can do like hop-backwards pole vaulting moves with the spear by pressing back and circle, for instance.

All the combat ones seem good and also grab the two accessory slots for each character.
The HP increase x per level one seemed like good choice.
Later on you'll get an ability that gets its own tree and it's worth investing in.

I got the combat 3 hours in so no but I understand what youre trying to say here.