Do you agree, Sup Forums?

Do you agree, Sup Forums?

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yeah tuned out combat kinda sucks so the level doesn't really matter

Level scaling sucks.

The Bethesda's level scaling is badly designed? Yes, I agree.

Remove level scaling and you have a better game.

requiem mod.

>Use Dragonrend
>Dragon ai can't find a spot to "crash" and just flies away

Why is level scaling the problem? In any RPG, being level 45 will make you breeze through most things that challenged you at the start

That's true of nearly any game that makes the character more powerful. If you're marching around the starting area at level 45 that's also just boring as fuck, this isn't some "problem" that needs fixing.

Level scaling is redundant. The game already scaled out everyone according to levels. To make it dynamically change in order to neutralize the player's strength is likely just a poor way of covering up shitty design elsewhere.

every single fight in skyrim is a boring chore and against dragon it's even worse because you spend half of the battle waiting for the actual thing to actualy come into bow/sword range

I definitely agree that the scaling is completely fucking shit, my point was simply that it has nothing to do with dragons being easy to kill
It actually just means dragons are easy to kill at any level past 10 or so

Jrpgs throw in fights specifically designed to be difficult at later levels.

There are stronger dragons.

>Dragon crashes down
>The generated terrain proceeds to cover up shit i needed

Of course, that's the main way games usually keep the challenge going
However, those aren't the same enemies you have trouble with at earlier levels. The equivalent in Skyrim would be when Draugr become easy as fuck to kill but you still get demolished by Deathlords or whatever the name was

>Kill the dragon while he's flying ai can't find a spot to "crash" and just flies away

Why the fuck has Intense got a white I?

Regardless of level, my hatred still goes out for ice storms in a hallway.
Every damn time

>college of winterhold
>dragon gets to 1/3 health
>lands on the giant tower and wont move
>im a mage and dont have a bow
>dragon just chills there for a few days

>he doesnt spam the wabbajack on it

the pinnacle of combat in this game is just OHK stealth archer

>"this is going to be an intense and rewarding battle"

Nah, never felt that way even at the beginning, because they throw the first one at you so early (and with so much backup) you know it'll be impossible to lose to it. Then you encounter your second and third and see they act exactly the same, except maybe there's the threat of them killing the NPC you need to talk to.

The only good thing about the "dragons" in Skyrim is that fighting them is such a marketing bait for casuals they won't be able to hype TESVI off that alone. Guess they're going to have to try thinking of ORIGINAL ideas for once.

>gloombound mine
>dragon spawns inside and kills every one
>can't just mine ebony anymore

I am pretty sure this didn't happen in earlier versions but now it happens every game I have

Dragons are the cliff racers of skyrim.

You're not funny or ironic. You're just stupid.

Except they spawn anywhere and can murderfuck that NPC you needed...or the town

I tried so hard to be a mage or a tank or anything but always ended up as a stealth archer.

That NPC you needed is essential.

It's not even just that. Fighting dragons was supposed to be one of the biggest selling points of the game, but they're super lame and uninteresting and flat out a massive fucking drag to fight.

Honestly, they're one of the worst parts of the whole game. It gets to the point where the attacks get more and more frequent and it starts to feel like you can't run anywhere without getting attacked by dragons. Even cities get attacked constantly.

Vampires are the cliff racers of skyrim.

Alright, that NPC you needed for a non-main quest

Yeah and OP's fucking Reddit image doesn't belong here and neither do you.

Are we really having like 6 threads about this piece of shit when everything has been said about it five years ago?

There are always babbies who never played a thing

>the "i" in intensive not highlighted

>role playing game
>player gets stronger through adventuring and defeating powerful enemies
> wolves from the first quest are as powerful, relative to the player, as they were when you did the quest
explain this

>That cunt mage that you need to kill the get dawn breaker
>LMAO ICE STORMS!
>LMAO MY SKELETON BUDDY ARE JOINING IN TOO
>LMAO I WASNT EVEN DEAD BRO!

So what sort of changes do you guys want for the next elder scrolls game?

I want more gore. something akin to killing floor 2 or left for dead 2

Yes we do. Are you triggered?

A good game would be nice

I want unarmed combat.

I want to put on the thickest armour and punch my enemies into the ground. I would really like it to be black marsh as well so we actually get some none human storyline going.

Reminder that the hist got so mad with the daedra invading they buffed the argonians so much they invaded oblivion.

>install a bunch an enb and a bunch if texture mods
>can't use a bow because framerate falls to 20-30 and I can't aim now

Dragon fights are even worse when you can't plink at them

Spears

Yes actually. Because people who enjoy Skyrim, especially without mods, are the cancer that is killing my favorite past-time.

>pure melee build
>dragon never fucking lands, just flies around like an asshole spamming breath attacks

Actually being able to manage your group/guild send people to do tasks for you (muh garnizons). And more story wise decisions.

I want a Jyggalag quest and an Aedra questline to counter the Daedric quests

I want it to be an RPG.

Well no one is forcing you enter these threads anyway.

I'd like to see it made by a different company

would you guys buy a remastered oblivion?

More weapon variety, more equipment slots, armor and clothing having different equipment slots like in older games.

>buy
Skyrim 2 was free though.

More equipment slots for multi layered armor

Hell even fallout 4 had it come on Bethesda it's current year

FUCK. why did you have to remind me? Fucking dragons in winterhold was such a pain in the ass.

LAMAO I love skyrem XD

Why are certain words in yellow? Why is the "I" in "Intense" white while the rest of the word is yellow?

I want stats to come back

>you've been doing the sneaky stealth archery playstyle
>one of these fuckers shows up

>get dragonrend shout ten minutes into the main quest
>use it to kill dragon

Is everyone in agreement that dragons and shouts are the most worthless, buggy aspects of Skyrim? The entire game was built around them, and yet they feel like they were programmed at the absolute last minute.

I am from reddit.
What are you gonna do, Sup Forums ?

>tfw I fell for the toddposting and bought fallout 4

Either focus more on deeper combat or focus on stats again.
Right now it's boring as hell to do melee combat. It doesn't matter if it's a mudcrab or a dragon, you attack it in the same way.
That's why everyone ends up with stealth archers - it brings in aiming and staying hidden, which makes combat a bit more interesting.

>It's a ''The dragon lands in a populated area and gets destroyed by town guards'' episode

And yet the setting calls itself ''Apocalyptic'' with everyone fearing dragons

Me too, man. But it turns out, you just need to buy the DLC! Then it's awesome!
You should really consider buying it.
Buy it.

I've never heard anyone refer to Skyrim as apocalyptic

Holy fuck this. I could only beat that fucker with a paralysis staff otherwise, I couldn't fucking move with those stupid ice attacks.

Never done stealth archer before. Started a new game on the special edition as a qt nationalistic nord woman. Having fun so far being an evil cunt.

The NPCs say that its the end of times with dragons flying around and vampires annoying people to death

And Alduin is THE WORLD ENDER lorewise

>Reach level cap
>Exit whiterun
>4 elder dragons circling overhead, two running along the ground fighting some giants
>Game crashes on autosave when you try to go back into town

Millions of people bought this game, and now millions more are buying the "HD re-release" with zero bugfixes.

Completely overhaul the combat system. Either make it action orientated or more RPG based, you can't have both just because casuals like to pretend it's deep. Have enemies actually react to getting hit, add dismemberment or more kill animations if you have to, just fix the god damn combat.

Get a new engine to tell that fucking BIG EPIC STORY they want to tell so badly. If there's a war, actually have the war be a part of the world. And don't end your entire fucking game on 4 people going "Hail the dragon born!" In shit voice acting.

Get voice actors that can actually emote or go back to having it be 90% text.

Stop relying on normalfags to play pretend in the sandboxes and actually make a good fucking game for a change.

I still remember the jank that some of these encounters could cause.

Once I battled a dragon while I was being attacked by forsworn in the highlands. They forgot about me and started targeting the dragon. Then, half-way through the battle another dragon shows up and wrecks the other dragon's shit

truly a generational masterwork :^)

I don't know if you're trying to be funny or clever, either way you failed to answer the question and instead sound like a 14 year old edgy faggot who needs to get off this board

Nope
Get ready for ES6 with all skills removed, your character build is now decided entirely with that stupid-as-fuck constellation perk system.

There were shouts that had me wondering why they were included in the game. Seriously did anyone find fire breath useful?

>Fire breath
I think you mean throw voice.

At least they gave you all 3 at one shrine so you wouldn't waste your time even more

>Shout for invisibility
>there's an invisibility spell
>Shout for lifesight
>there's a spell for lifesight
>Shout for charm
>there's multiple charm spells

The ONLY two useful shouts were Unrelenting Force and Whirlwind Sprint. That's it. If you say you got much use out of the others, you're a fucking liar. I want to ask why they didn't just frame more content around Unrelenting Force like blasting doors open, but then they'd have to actually program the game instead of tugging themselves off over their decade-old physics engine.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>get a new engine

This. They can only go so far with gamebryo. I hope they take their time with the next elder scrolls

>They can only go so far with gamebryo.
FO4 sold over 12m copies by changing a few values in Gamebryo and re-labeling it as "LE EPIC CREATION ENGINE."

We're still going to be seeing bug-riddled, janky-ass Gamebryo in fucking 2035, every bit as outdated and unoptimized as it was in fucking 2004.

>Mage college quest
>Have to move that thing around with fire and ice
>Shout at it
>It works

They finally had a use

I forgot about throw voice. Then again the same could be said about half the shouts once you get dragonrend.

>open door in skyrim
>object from table across the room flies into me, causing me to lose 90% of my health
so this... is the power... of bethesda...

I remember one of the earlier hype interviews having one of the devs literally go "lol I fought the dragon for several hours. I had to give it everything I had and was forced to utilize everything I had ever learned. It was so intense I was on the edge of my seat the whole time!"

the Stop Time shout is good too.

How do I get into lewd modding?

I have SOS and UNP installed along with some other textures

I got the the wearfolf infection just so I could knock him down and fling him about to stop the death sentence of ice storm.

you will want to go onto sexlabs, unfortunately you have to make an account and they send a letter to your mother with a list of the mods you downloaded.

>level 3 time stop
>amulet to reduce the cd on shouts
>permanent uptime on stop time
>proceed to become the flash

>play as a pure mage for once
>finally get the flawless ruby for the spellbreaker quest
>go to through the dungeon with all the infected dudes
>get to the boss
>he just resists all magic because ???
>neither of us can kill eachother because healing spells
>spend literally two hours hacking at him with a sword
>go from level 15 one-handed to 80+ one-handed

Because with level scaling pretty often you just won't encounter those weak things at all anymore. Take Oblivion as an example. What should be weak ass bandits are now walking around in demonic enchanted armors of legend with magic blades of godslaying, better outfitted than the Imperial Legion. No more scamps for you to slaughter. No. Now you will face the xivilai at every turn. He will summon a greater clannfear which will itself summon a lesser clannfear. He brought a few buddies too and they're summoning also. They brought the whole gang to whoop up on that ass. You can fix that nonsense with mods but level scaling can be pretty ridiculous sometimes.

And that's what mods are for. Turns the Dragons back into threats that you need to consider regardless of level.

Especially after you give them a larger repertoire of shouts. Getting your weapon disarmed and then blown off somewhere, or getting shouted off a mountain tends to put a kink in things.

US GAMERS HUH
AM I RITE

sounds like it just makes them even more annoying

>I don't want them to be easy
>I also don't want them to challenge me though

Well how about you make up your fucking mind, then?

The series either needs to go further down the exploration, action, combat route (ie make combat fucking enjoyable and fix magic) or actually become a real RPG with choices. Skyrim ended up being an inbetween that had shit combat but an enjoyable world but no real choices that you'd expect in an RPG. If you fixed either aspect of skyrim it actually would have been a great game.

Plus IIRC Oblivion's scaling was so bad that once you get high enough the game was almost too fucking hard to bother with period. I think some people even said the game became almost unplayable after a certain point, but it's been so long ago I can't remember.

Being able to mix and match and make my own spells was fun though, making spells that let me jump over buildings and such.

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