ASA makes a detailed investigation and finds that Hello Games did not mislead customers

>ASA makes a detailed investigation and finds that Hello Games did not mislead customers
>Anti-NMS faggots in full blown damage control while trying to move the goalposts

Anyone else happy to see these entitled manchildren crying?

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It's easy being a developer if you can promise everything and deliver nothing.

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do bad thing
apologize later

these are the suckers of the world

it's the way people want the world to work
you asked for this

>Entitled
I think people are entitled to the product they were promised.

its easier to ask forgiveness then permission

>trying to move the goalposts
>B-but he didn't lie, you see the ADVERTISEMENTS aren't misleading at all!

pretty much this.

Granted, Hello Games really went nuts with this philosophy.

This. I highly doubt the board took interviews as advertising, despite the very clear connection.

How the fuck did they not mislead the customers?

Interviews saying the game has multiplayer
The chance of finding another player was one in a million
Desertical planets that arent there
Huge creatures that aren't there
Portals that do not work
Giant creatures that do not exist
Sandworms that arent there
Mountains that can't be generated
Completely different HUD
Completely different graphics

All of these were on the main Steam page even after the shitstorm for months

And not a single time these features were announced as "future possible things that aren't there but eventually will pls buy 60 dollar game"

>Say a thing is part of the product you're buying
>It's not
>"Nothing wrong with this"

>2016 UK
That's fucking why. No wonder Britain left.

>I'm happy to know people got away with lying to customers
Why are gamers such cucks?

ASA ruled that UI changes are inconsequential and that graphics will vary according to user specs or something.

As for missing creatures and environments, Hello Games told them that anything is possible with procedural generation but the chances of finding it are very small. The ASA believed them, lol.

The Eurogamer article goes over all of this.

Are you fucking shitting me?

Did they see that original """"""gameplay"""""" trailer

Multi-billion dollar industries rarely see litigation or congressional intervention.

>Interviews saying the game has multiplayer
>The chance of finding another player was one in a million
They didn't go through the interviews. They just looked at the steam page and listened to whatever BS HG fed them.

The investigation was only about the Steam page. Bait harder, retard.

>be a videogame player
>make up stories in your mind about a game
>don't know what an acceptable exaggeration to sell a product is
>literally don't bother to inform yourself

I am glad ASA understands.

>The game will have multiplayer
>exaggeration

Why the fuck these threads keep showing up? it's the new epic maymay to defend NMS?

This sets a really bad precedent for game companies to use as a bar later in how far they can stretch the truth.

I don't get why people are defending this. Its literally E3 trailer graphic changes times 10.

On the other hand, this could discourage people from preorders and we can finally break away from that god awful process.

>ASA makes a detailed investigation and finds that Hello Games did not mislead customers
I'm sorry, what?

>responding to incredibly obvious bait

The game is a flop. This is a fact that no amount of mental gymnastics can change. When you burn hundreds of thousands of customers in 1 day your company is always going to be untrustworthy, Sean.

The precedence is already there, which is why HG isn't the only one guilty of this.

On top of it all, I doubt ASA has anyone staffed that's capable of coding enough to defuse any BS HG threw their way.

Just another "cheap bait from some desperate retard that needs attention" episode, they're literally hourly on Sup Forums.

>People are mad about things promised by Sean Murray
>These are not advertisements so they're not against the law
>ASA can only act on actual advertisements
Wew lad.

>he didn't lie about [random shit]
>o-oh he did lie about everything else but he didn't lie about [random shit] so that is not misleading customers

>>ASA makes a detailed investigation and finds that Hello Games did not mislead customers
For the steam description page, yeah. Nothing else. They mislead customers through other means. But I guess you don't want to mention that because then your bait threat wouldn't work, huh?

>Dev tries to be as conservative as possible
>Maintains silence in social networks avoids creating false expectations
>Give a few neutral answers to things that haven't been implemented yet
>People run wild and still hype up the game
>Blame it on the dev

I didn't even buy the game, but I did follow it up until launch and I know that most of the stuff people said where "hyped" by Sean weren't actually hyped by him. He said more than once that people should curve their expectations and they mostly stayed silent because they wanted to avoid the hype.

NMS has been one of the biggest cases of mass self delusion I've ever seen to be honest and it should be taught in psychology and marketing classes.

Speaking of classes, you should probably take some on bullshitting people.

This.

The game is shit and not my thing at all but I'm glad retards who don't get informed about what they buy get fucked in the ass. It's how it always should be for people who preorder like dumb manchildren.

Even the steam page is misleading, but ASA was fed the "procedural generation" bullshit and ate it whole.

>taught in psychology classes

Kek

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This, the colbert interview and one other interview where he said player interaction WAS in the game. Besides that trailers show models and animations that simply were not in the game at all.

He lied. Stop trying to protect him.

What I hate about today's culture is the blame shifting.

"its not out fault we did not see the game was going to be shit and preordered it" its the dev's fault!!

"its not that people are fed up with politics and elected trump as a reaction, its the fake news fault" boycott facebook!!!

Have people always been this gullible or did the internet just shown them for what they always are?

As with any fucking purchase, you need to make an informed decision. You look at the product, research it, wait for reviews, and only then decide whether you want it or not. But no, babies see a nice trailer, immediately preorder it to get a shitty DLC, and then cry "we've been had!". Fuck these people. Your money is your responsibility. Of course companies will do anything to get it. Grow up.

>few neutral answers
>"Will this game have multiplayer?" "Yes"
>"Will you be able to play this with friends?" "Absolutely"
>says it has multiplayer on the cover

>no lying and misleading customers here
Here is your complimentary bait (you)

While I definitely see where you're coming from, it's a fact that the game devs blantatly lied about the game's features and misled thousands of consumers, and that's not ok just because "lmao you fell for it"

>complaint is solely about Steam store page and screenshots
>ASA finds not much wrong after extensive research
>Sup Forums still prattling on about other lies that weren't related to this complaint

>basing your affirmations on that dumb cropped meme video

See, this is the kind of people that obviously felt scammed by Sean. Dumbed than a brick.

>Anyone else happy to see these entitled manchildren crying?


Falling for the meme.

A very tiny minority probably think he should have been prosecuted. having his reputation trashed was enough for everyone else.

Sure people are idiots for falling for the hype but you can't seriously think lying and being an asshole is totally okay because you got away with it.

I figured anybody with half a brain saw this coming when the investigation was annouced. NMS haters have nothing but phony memes.

>dumb cropped meme video

someone asked if two players could meet up and see one another and he answered with an affirmative

they said the only way to see the player model would be to stumble across another player

stop fucking defending these cunts just because some bigwig cunts don't give a fuck about video games and how they're advertised

I believe people have always been this way, and the Internet just allows us to truly see, at last.

Have you noticed that people look "more" stupid than you remember, now? I believe it's because of this phenomenon, now anyone can be heard and/or be seen at any minute and any from anywhere in the world.

Doesn't matter what he said during development, fag. The day before before release he was very clear on Twitter: the game is not multiplayer, don't expect a multiplayer experience.
Everything else is a moot point.

The steam store page is still misleading. The only thing that protected Hello Games was their use of procedural generation and claims of everything being a "small percent".

ASA has no actual way of refuting that without knowing game design.

>tfw you didn't get cucked by sean murray

feels good not being a sucker.

If anything they should have made them remove the old trailers and release a new one with actual footage.

Would have still been a slap on the wrist but better than nothing.

Right up until the end he maintained that multiplayer was there, just rare and that you shouldn't expect to find anyone since "the universe is so big!"
Then two people found themselves on the same planet literally on release day and there was no multiplayer.

I'm glad people lost money on this game. Have you learned nothing from this game industry? You pre-ordered a game built on every single hype-producing gimmick in the book.

Let's hope next time you guys dont fall for it.

That's a programming principle you cunt, you are not meant to apply it in customer service.

I'm happy knowing I knew it would be mediocre from the beginning.

It wasn't difficult to guess after all the retarded, lazy, procedural generation indie games that had flooded the market prior to this. The hype for this game was honestly baffling to me.

>Let's hope next time you guys dont fall for it.

That's the problem though, the only people that ever fall for it is the general public who are to ignorant of the vidya game industry to not understand when their being played. And they never, EVER learn.

It's not teaching consumers to be smarter, consumers are and will always be idiots. It's just teaching companies to sink lower for maximum profits and as a whole make vidya worse.

So Sean was the good guy all along you tricked me Sup Forums.

kek where do you think it came from in the first place

Which is why such agencies exist.

kind of unrelated but will sea of pirates live up to the hype?
that game looks pretty dope.

>"Haha! These people said I didn't rip you off, so there!"

>"Haha! These people said I ripped you off, so there!"

Sup Forums is full of Americans who think Sean Murray's lie is a bigger crime and cause for outrage than Trump's lies.

Makes you think.

>Britcucks
Embarrasing

And look how that went.

By saying its okay for Sean to lie, you're saying it's okay for Trump to lie too.

yes these are the same faggits throwing money at season passes and day 1 dlc for triple A garbage but cry about early access and indie devs, fuckem

Who here >#seanmurraydidliterallynothingwrong

“The physics of every other game—it’s faked,” the chief architect Sean Murray explained. “When you’re on a planet, you’re surrounded by a skybox—a cube that someone has painted stars or clouds onto. If there is a day to night cycle, it happens because they are slowly transitioning between a series of different boxes.” The skybox is also a barrier beyond which the player can never pass. The stars are merely points of light. In No Man’s Sky however, every star is a place that you can go. The universe is infinite. The edges extend out into a lifeless abyss that you can plunge into forever.

>The creatures are generated through the procedural distortion of archetypes, and each given their own unique behavioral profiles. “There is a list of objects that animals are aware of,” Artificial Intelligence programmer Charlie Tangora explained. “Certain animals have an affinity for some objects over others which is part of giving them personality and individual style. They have friends and best friends too. It's just a label on a bit of code—but another creature of the same type nearby is potentially their friend. They ask their friends telepathically where they’re going so they can coordinate.”

>Artistic director Grant Duncan recalled roaming an alien planet once shooting at birds out of boredom. “I hit one and it fell into the ocean,” he recalled. “It was floating there on the waves when suddenly, a shark came up and ate it. The first time it happened, it totally blew me away.”

>The team programmed some of the physics for aesthetic reasons. For instance, Duncan insisted on permitting moons to orbit closer to their planets than Newtonian physics would allow. When he desired the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that would diffract light at just the right wavelength.

Do you think that blaming and suing them will change anything? Best case scenario, they will pay a few million bucks, literally nothing compared to what they made. Then change their name or dissolve the company. The devs will go work elsewhere and nothing changes. Even then, it would be worth it for them.

But what if people actually learnt from their mistakes and stopped preordering? Started actually researching their purchases? In a few months, companies would have realized they cant make money by scamming and we'd have a better gaming culture.

But no, its too hard to realize you have been an idiot and change your ways. It would crush your ego. How can I, the master of the world, be an idiot? Surely not! No, it must be THEIR fault. Let's be angry an them for a while and then forget the whole thing. That will be better for me.

If you havent noticed, people are scamming you everywhere, always have been. You walk out the door, go buy a beer to a Walmart, see a sale and buy shit you dont need. You go to the theatre, leave your beer outside and buy another inside for 5x the price. On the way back home, you see an ad for the new [product] you so desperately need. [Famous person] uses it, and he/she is more succesful than you, maybe thanks to the [product]. It's always been that way, and if you dont see it, you're exactly what the corporation want. A sheep with a fat purse.

People are the same, social media just give the stupid ones more coverage because it's more entertaining than "an average person has his shit together."

The Tories will let anyone get away with anything if they have money.

How is confirming multiplayer mere days/weeks before the game is released not misleading?

"detailed" investigation probably read some reddit posts and took whatever Hello Games told them at face value.

Nu Males Sky wasn't hyped on Sup Forums at all. In fact we were saying it would be shit from the beginning.

>When he desired the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that would diffract light at just the right wavelength.
my face when it is easier to redesign your entire statistical interface than to add particles into your game

>lie
>its your fault for believing me!

this, man.

I hardly think it will be as good as I hope, much less would be better. I'm playing in four hours, I was the only two solar systems and about five planet / moon, and all this made me feel completely insignificant in the grand universe. I received new walls, what I found.

I just drown desperately trying to escape from an underground black hole in a cold, lonely and terrible colossal world with grunts scaring me the direction of the distant, Rocky and eroded mountains in contrast to the background a dark blue solar system. Earlier, I was surprised with a bunch of creatures similar to antelopes grazing in the little yellow paradise it was a moon with color pink sky. Human creaked far and piano chords tintilavam in the background.

I very much appreciate the technical work and the related level of spending, such as mining and trade, but above all, the game walks and an extremely emotional experience for me so far. I could barely bring myself to put my first solar cell system after purchase plastic. No matter where I look, I always have this crisis, harsh and sad to know that inevitably will without knowing so many things. I have never, NEVER, felt lost in this way. The website calls me without saying anything. What a beautiful game, beautiful and huge. Let me dumb.

Enjoy all of you. And thank you, Sean and Hello Games. Jeez, Louise.

>"Haha, I want my money back because this game is not what was advertised!"
>"Haha, no!"
>"Haha, that's not fair!"
>"Haha, it is fair because these people told you that I didn't rip you off!"

>suffer
>it's your fault for being stupid!

Sean Murray is not to make mistakes. Is flawed people, like you and me. I can admit that. But this whole "lied MULTIPLAYER !!!" Thing is crazy. You all ballistic. You are like a bunch of savages fell animals. Everywhere I look, it's "Sean Murray lying Bastard faces two charges. Kill. Heat. Baking his body on fire, I peel the skin off."

Have you ever thought that maybe..Just Perhaps this was because of the bug? Do you think this is possible..PLAUSIBLE..That Sean Murray is not the spawn of Satan infact..The here to pay Third Reich and complete Hitler never? The game is nothing more than a day. To be honest, I think it likely that this is just a minor hiccup. A lot of games you have to start the day, the majority of which are AAA developers like EA. Time will tell whether this is a bug or not, but because now..Can all just relax? He delivered on his promises for a day one patch, is not it?

Currently this type of mana, it's like the apocalypse Day. Parents dropping their infants out of the window, young people go to the streets naked, having sex is all the rage, helicopters and fall to the ground, and all is in flames. Then comes the next day, and it's like the living room, goddamn, with everyone hugging eachother, and entertainment.

Dont know why people are complaining. I mean yes, there are lies, but Sean pulled a Todd. Todd used hyperboles. Sean said "you just havent seen it yet." Its smart becuase the only way to see if hes lying is to actually play the game for god knows how many hours. And so ASA had to go to the Steam page info, which by surface level, he didnt really lie. Just hyped it too high. It was lost from the start, simply becuase its videogames.

Yes

You're a child if you think the world is fair and everyone will treat you well.

Is it so hard to wait for reviews and community reviews? Do you really need to play the game right away? All you need to do is wait literally 5 hours and use your brain when seeing ads.

>90% negative reviews
>reception to the "foundation update" luke warm at best
It's easy being a developer when gamers are literally the most gullible demographic on the market.

>Life's unfair and people are shit so lets celebrate!

>sandworms
user there are LITTERALLY MILLIONS of animals

>You're a child if you think the world is fair and everyone will treat you well.

>lie to the police
>get sent to prison

Clearly not. And anyway, if Sean Murrey is lying, then life won't be fair when people threaten to kill him and he whines about the abuse.

>not even the law cant stop you from being a millionare in the industry

Sup Forums what are you doing? Get a friend and make a game already. All your dreams are around the corner.

Sean Murray akuyona sokuthola amaphutha. Muhle ntu kunemaphutsa, njengawo wena kanye nami. Angikwazi bayavuma ukuthi. Kodwa lokhu lonke "waqamba amanga wathi ABADLALI ABANINGI !!!" Into uyahlanya. You guys are bonke ballistic. Wena ufana bunch of izilwane enonya Horny. Everywhere I bheka, kungcono "Sean Murray IS A elele EZIMBILI bastard BABHEKANA NEZINSELELE. Ukumbulala. Ayishise. Eyosiwe isidumbu sakhe phezu komlilo, udiliza isikhumba sakhe OFF".

Ingabe nawe guys niyeke ukucabanga ukuthi maybe..Just Mhlawumbe lokhu kwaba ngenxa bug? Ingabe ucabanga ukuthi possible..PLAUSIBLE..That Sean Murray is hhayi infact..The eziyizimbangela lesilingo sikaSathane, lapha kubuyisela Third Reich futhi uqedele Hitler bahluleka? Umdlalo akubanga out isikhathi esingaphezu kosuku. Honestly, Ngicabanga ukuthi kungenzeka ukuthi lokhu kwaba nje inwabi minor. Lots of imidlalo babe kwethulwa nezindaba usuku, eziningi zazo by AAA onjiniyela like EA. Kuyobonakala ngokuhamba kwesikhathi ukuthi lokhu kuyinto bug noma cha, kodwa ngoba now..Can sonke nje phumula? Uthi bakhululwe ezinye izithembiso zakhe ngosuku olulodwa patch, akazange abe?

Umzuzu lokhu umfana kwenza ukushiyeka, kungcono like the apocalypse goddamn. Abazali ngokuphonsa abantwana babo ngamafasitela esitolo, intsha egijima emigwaqweni nqunu, humping konke ngentukuthelo, ezinophephela emhlane ashaya phansi, futhi konke kwakushiswa. Usuku sekulandela, futhi kunjani Daycare goddamn, nawo wonke umuntu ukwangana eachother, futhi ukuzijabulisa.

Are you baiting? Do you really believe that every "bad" person will get justice and every criminal gets arrested? You really need to get out son, video games arent portraing the real world.

>And anyway, if Sean Murrey is lying, then life won't be fair when people threaten to kill him and he whines about the abuse.

Yes, it won't be. But it's yet another symptom of people not being able to admit they made a mistake in believing in ads. And imagine being the person who's so angry about his 60$ purchase that he'll threathen a person's life over it. How pathethic of a person can you get? Learn the lesson and move on. I mean, Steam even allows you to try the game out, so unless you're a real idiot this whole "issue" won't cost you a dime.

>
Are you baiting? Do you really believe that every "bad" person will get justice and every criminal gets arrested? You really need to get out son, video games arent portraing the real world.

No but the idea that its OK and the onus is on the customer not to get scammed is retarded. Its like saying "stupid Cubans, they should have ran AWAY from Fidel Castro before he killed them!"

People should be more careful, but that doesn't mean its the customer's fault. Sean Murrey should have his money confiscated. He sold a worthless tech demo for £60.

"Physics Every game is fake," Chief Architect Sean Murray explained. Between a series of different boxes. "SkyBox as well as a barrier beyond which players can not pass .. mere points of the star of light.However, no one in the sky, every star is a place you can go.The world is unlimited.Up to the edge Of a cliff of life that you can always dive into.

> Living beings through the distortion of archetypal production processes, and each has its own unique behavioral profile. "The list of objects that animals are aware of, there are" artificial intelligence programmer Charlie Tangora explained. Potentially enter your friend nearby. They telepathically their friends where they are going so that they can coordinate. "

> Art Director Grant Duncan recalls roaming an alien planet once shooting at the birds of fatigue. "I get a kick and she fell into the ocean," he recalled. "It was floating on the waves, when suddenly, a shark came and ate. The first time this happened, it completely amazed me."

> The physics of planned aesthetic reasons. For example, Duncan let the moon orbiter closer to his planet than Newtonian physics allows insisted. When he considered the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that light up only with the proper wavelength of light refraction.

Im not saying it's OK. I'm saying that people are not able to take a hint. They'll hate but not learn, and there is no way other than that to stop this practice. Commenting and suing wont change a thing.

When Castro came into power, people couldnt just leave. But when a game comes out, you can research or try it out for 2 hours. The problem is easily avoidable.

This whole "issue" seriously feels like trying to explain to a child why their burger doesn't look like the one in the photo. That's advertising. Get used to it, faggots.

Unless you actually start crying THEY LIED every time you go see a movie and it turns out it wasn't as good as the trailer, or the deodorant you wear doesn't make you irresistible to women.

Yeah but the problem is, the people who its trapping don't know that, otherwise they wouldn't buy it. I didn't buy it because I got baited by the same shit when I was 15 by Spore. But the people getting baited by it don't know any better, otherwise they wouldn't be baited. Well once bitten twice shy, but there's a sucker born every minute and Murrey knows it.

That phrase existed long before programming was invented you unabashed dumb dumb.

>"Can you see/greet other player?"
>"Yes."
Definitely not misleading.

Well then they should know it now. And do they? No. They make the same mistake again, because "surely it can't happen again."

This. The ASA conclusion is basically:
>you are retarded if you think these things are certain to happen in a procedurally generated game