Which one will be the better game?

Which one will be the better game?

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Clearly this one.

>people say Death Stranding is going to be good
>"w-we don't know anythingn about it yet! Stop assuming what its going to be like/about!"

>people say TLOU 2 is going to be good.
>"from just this short trailer i know its going to be an edgy, SJW mess, im going to use a word i use in every day life now "mediocre". I don't need anymore "proof"."

These two games have something in common and its not "being movies".

>which one will be a better movie?

ftfy

>game

Correct.

They will both be shit games and okay movies

I'm willing to bet on Madsjima

there's room for both user

death stranding is a text based adventure game.

Single player? Kojima all day

Multiplayer? Want kojima to be best, but we'll see how that turns out. Will death stranding even have mp?

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just fucking end your lives already

>Kojima actually doing something original he wants, with several big names in on it
>NaughtyDog appealing to the lowest common denominator
yeah, I wonder

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I was just agreeing it is a game user. Why so mad?

By falling for the Mads Mikkelsen meme you're every bit as bad as the people lining up for the latest Chris Pratt flick. These men are marketing tools, not actors. The Hunt/ Pusher are a hollywood shill job made for the express purpose of creating a new "legitimate" actor to be used in subsequent capeshit releases in order to attract the "film buff" demographic to maximize profits. This happens all the time in hollywood. They pluck out a new star with an inoffensive face from obscurity, put them in an indie shit on the cheap, and bam, they now have "legitimacy" "wow look at this hot new talented actor" appeal and can now be a new "artificial star" to hinge your summer tentpole release on.

It is all fraud, a manipulation. Mads Mikkelsen is no more an artist, no more a human being even, than the new mcdonalds festive hamburger promotion. He is smoke and mirrors, a light show, a pretend actor.

Exact same career progression is true of all of the shilled meme actors of late. Lawrence, Fassbender, Hardy, Pratt, Isaac. By supporting these "lesser known" critical darling you are only enabling the pre-production marketing phase of the capeshit machine.

Mikkelsen is lying to you with his very existence.

Please, user this is Sup Forums not Sup Forums

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even early access shit is more of a game than this

>Kojima wants to make a different game but Konami forces him to make more Metal Gear
>makes more good MG games instead

>Naughty Dog can do whatever they want
>decide to make a sequel instead

I'm glad Kojima now has his own studio and is only being funded by Sony in return to make it platform exclusive.

Kojima always does crazy shit with the video game medium. Despite not always succeeding.

Naughty Dog's games are well made but generally plays it safe.

So Death Stranding imo.

This.

>good MG games instead

Don't know why I added that "instead" at the end.

Is this a new meme?

>a person is a meme

Sup Forums never fails to astonish me.

The original The Last of Us was a decent third person shooter with too much cinematic experience garbage (ladder collection for example) that ultimately told an unambitious but well-presented story. Naughty Dog is completely converged so I expect the sequel to be a freakshow aimed at individuals with colourful dyed hair.

Kojima's games are far more interesting and often have far deeper and rewarding gameplay opportunities, but he's also batshit insane so for all we know Death Stranding could be shit.

Be honest, user. Did you know who this man was or legitimately cared about any of his work before seeing that trailer?

I knew he is Hannibal and that he is in Doctor Strange

I agree....i mean Mads is not a bad actor but i know people who get a raging boner every time he is cast in something. same thing with Pratt. i just dont understand people sometimes. the reason I myself am excited for this game is the bizarre atmosphere they have shown.

yea on tv threads - some people really liked hannibal

Yes, he was amazing in The Hunt.

He was great in Casino Royale and really great in Hannibal.

Yes faggot.
The Hunt was the best horror movie of this decade, and Pusher is an amazing series.

Considering the past 4 uncharted games and The Last of Us 1 it's going to be a very pretty very safe third person shooter that is competently made but doesn't attempt anything new or exciting.

Considering kojima's games we have no idea what the plot will be, and will have amazing trailers. Gameplay is a toss up because kojima games have had both good and bad gameplay. Expect long cutscenes or lots of dialogue, that's about as much as anyone can assume.

Kojima doesn't make vidya,he makes KINO.

You posted in the Sup Forums thread didn´t you?

You are salty as hell but this has pasta potential, thank you sad little man.

I liked him in Hannibal and Doctor Strange.

>need to hire real actors when making a game that features characters that look like them
Somebody explain this dumb shit to me. Surely just doing the modeling and animations by hand would be much cheaper.

Kojima may want the characters to display emotions and expressions that the animators cannot do, whereas the actors can.

And also, it's faster to just have the actors do motion capture than to have animators and modelers design the faces. Would you rather spend a few hours with an actor making funny faces while a helmet covered in cameras is strapped to them, or spend a few days having animators and modelers attempt to make character models have expressions and facial features?

>TLOU 2
>literally womyn empowerment the game
>best anything

Kek.

Death Stranding has a better chance of not being a movie, so that.

Mads always wins

Why are we pretending Kojima has competition?

In the case of Death Stranding, I think they're taking the middle-road by only hiring the high profile actors to do most of their expressions beforehand to scan/build a facial rig and then let someone else do the acting. It's a cheap way of getting someone's likeness into the game. At least, I know Guillermo isn't acting his character. And getting performance capture done is actually fairly expensive and usually happens in a third-party studio. I got the impression from the trailer that they're using regular mocap.

In the case of The Last of Us, they do performance capture. In which aside from full mocap, at least one camera is also pointed in the actor's face at all times capturing the small nuances and expressions along with voice and motion. In this case you'd want someone who can actually act.

Death Stranding because MGS V at least had gameplay. TLOU ism pure cinematic shit.

Guillermo merely got scanned into the game, but Kojima said that Reedus and Mikkelsen are doing all the acting for their characters.

I was suppose to have Sully dlc not hijab simulator.

Oh, and the performance capture is being done by Sony Interactive Entertainment according to the recent trailer.

We know very little of either, but my money is on Death Stranding being more enjoyable. With TLOU they probably won't do anything all that different from the first, leaving it as a decent game with a heavy focus on a decent story. With Death Stranding the gameplay is a wild card. MGSV didn't have great gameplay, but that was an abnormal game for Kojima. The story will probably be good and at the very least it should be more original than TLOU.

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>He is smoke and mirrors, a light show, a pretend actor.
7/10, made me respond.

Yeah found the rig, this is definitely pcap, not mocap. Kind of an entry level rig though. Alternatively Kojima might prefer less heavy equipment on the actors to give them a bit more freedom.

It's a copypasta. I've seen it in pretty much every death stranding thread since the second trailer came out.

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Death Stranding has skeleton soldiers so it's already better than TLoU2 in pretty much every way.

there both going to be objective cutscene movie garbage with shit forced narratives and QTEs. They will both get good scores regardless. Everything thats wrong with games is what these pieces of stool are

Death Stranding, easily.
That said, there are better upcoming games.

Automata could very well end up being mediocre.

What makes you think that?

The combat system looks very fun, but the game is being aimed at casuals so the enemies may not take full advantage of that combat system. Sort of like how MGSV had great mechanics and systems but the missions and levels were mostly uninspired. The challenge could be minimal. And I doubt those who liked the first Nier will find this one's story to be amazing.

DS will be an open world game made by Kojimeme so it will be trash

You're actually right on the nose. They're using relatively simple pcap equipment to allow for the actors to more freely move around as though they aren't wearing the rigs. Capcom does this with most of their games, some primary examples I can think of being Resident Evil 4 and Devil May Cry 4.

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It's a must for physical actors, as opposed to exclusively voice actors who get to just stand or sit in a booth.

This is mocap though, not pcap.

>Motion-capture acting, also called performance-capture acting, sometimes abbreviated as MoCap or Pcap, is a type of acting in which an actor wears markers or sensors on a skintight bodysuit

I meant it's more along the lines of the actors wearing using lower end, simpler rigs because they aren't as potentially cumbersome on the actor, which allows them to move around better.

Read your own article. Not all mocap is pcap.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_capture#Facial_motion_capture

>game

Well in terms of mocap most of it is the same anyway. Where the most change is right now is for the pcap rig which are the helmets the actors wear. While the pipelines differ, the hardware usually involves at least one camera but for higher grade performance capture (usually for big Hollywood film) they have up to three cameras on the helmet at a time.

>This pasta
Nice to see it doing the rounds again.

You can meme about Kojimas storytelling all day but you can't deny he makes solid gameplay. Plus it's safe to assume given ND's track record that TLOU2 is just going to be another feels-bait generic third person shooter with the usual combat arena > slow walk corridor exposition > cinematic > combat arena formula. At least with Kojima you can expect something different.

Kojima proved that he could actually innovate game play with MGS5, so I'm hoping Death Stranding will continue this trend and also have a much more interesting story that won't be butchered due to the whole Kojima/Konami mess.

I honestly don't see what people liked about TLoU. The level design made it a chore to get through the game, and everything seemed so slow. Story wise there was literally nothing impressive except the quality of the facial acting. Read The Road if you want to get the full emotional apocalyptic series, there isn't anything appealing to me about taking that content and watering it down so that it can work in video game form.

Honestly similar issues as Spec Ops.

The one where you dont play as a lesbo killing men.

Why do developers keep sticking to the Zombie fad? That shit is dead. The only popular products still selling zombies are The Walking Dead (which is and always has been shit), and The Last of Us.

DayZ? Shit, will never be finished.
H1Z1? Shit.
Dead Island? Shit.
Dying Light? Forgotten.

The only thing that truly does Zombies right, and makes them fun, is the Zombies mode from the Call of Duty games made by Treyarch.

B-but this one has really famous actors in it!!!

>Ellie's EDGY

Well, what the fuck do you expect out of a child that was raised during an apocalypse

Kino~jima by far ND has fallen the Femifade like bioware and marvel so unless you get off on Storngfemaledont neednoman archtype shoved down your throat itll get old after awhile

The people who rave about TLoU don't even like the gameplay, they even say it's the worse part. All of the TLoU coverage was just about the DEEP STORY and MUH FEELINGS, so you know that they will simplify the gameplay and put a heavier emphasis on the story, so a bet TLoU 2 will hardly even be a game, so it's disqualified already.

Oh and the fact that the writer thinks DIVERSITY is as important AS GAMEPLAY!

Death Stranding will be memier.

Yes but facial capture allows better detail and realism. Compare the facial animations from MGS4 (done by hand) to the ones from V (mocap). They're so much better in V it's not funny. In the end it depends on what you're going for. Kojima values realism to make the bizarre shit seem more bizarre and for the effect he wants facial capture is entirely worth the added costs.

But that's exactly the same shit Kojima produces only replace diversity with hollywood names.

Both would rather focus on visuals and muh deep philosophical stories then making an actual fucking video game.

Joel, I'm already the last of us.

Very well done image

Kojima's games are as gamey as they come, even the ones where you spend more time watching than playing.

What game?

That actor looks just like my dad so its weird as fuck watching game of thrones

It's because Hannibal had a really crazy vocal fanbase.

I think he is a very good actor, and he is really nice and genuine in person, but he's kind of becoming a meme. I don't think it will last too much longer though.

Death Stranding.

Kojima actually knows how to make fun gameplay.

It's not nice to lie.

He does, though. Certainly moreso than The Last of Us.

The fact that it's usually outweighed by cutscenes and dialogue isn't pertinent to the subject at hand.

Why not actually enjoy both games instead of jumping into the hate wars?

I mean, it's video games, not World War 3 or a presidential election.

Which one will be a game?

Show me something like The End in a Naughty Dog game.

this

both games are going to have shitty stories that take themselves to seriously though

I was about to say, that guy looks a lot like Davos.

>game
these are just going to be interactive movies. sony is dead

>m-muh """""innovative""""" boss fight

Go away.

Just from a storytelling perspective, Death Stranding. Last of Us 2 answers a question nobody asked. Stranding asks a question I never would have thought of. I know which one interests me more.

Gameplay wise, who the fuck knows? Last of Us 2 will probably be more Last of Us, and Death Stranding could be literally anything.

the last of us probably, but death stranding will be infinitely more interesting

Plot to the first last of us was shit anyway, I hated the characters by the end (hurr hurr let's deprive humanity of it's chance at curing the apocalypse because muh daughter complex)

+too much of a Kojima fancuck to think he could make a worse game.

>I hated the characters by the end (hurr hurr let's deprive humanity of it's chance at curing the apocalypse because muh daughter complex)
You may be autistic.

Thanks for the autism.