How do we fix him Sup Forums? He's the most annoying broken piece of shit in this game. Damage for days without aiming...

How do we fix him Sup Forums? He's the most annoying broken piece of shit in this game. Damage for days without aiming. A land mine that instantly kills half the cast. It's fucking insane.

>The land mine that does 120 damage kills half the cast instantly

Alright user.

Maybe you should git gud and avoid his fucking grenades and traps.

any semi decent reaper or mccree or even old dad can just shoot him and his dead.

cmon son

The land mine is designed to be used in conjunction with the steel trap. If you have junkrats who are just throwing it around as their 6th primary fire than they're probably bad at him and aren't worth your time.

Sure, junkrat can do damage without aiming, but the rest of the hero roster can do far more damage by aiming.

none of these address the problem that he's objectively annoying to die to.

Ocoraina of time
All the pokemans on gb
Halo 1-4
Kotor 1/2
That Rome game that came out when Xbox came out
Mw1/2/black ops 1/2 and ghosts
A fuck ton of gba games that I can't recall

>How do we fix him Sup Forums?
By buffing him instead of nerfing him, because he's objectively an underpowered piece of garbage.

Underpowered? Do you not fucking play overwatch? This faggot gets play of the game all the time.

>dying to trashmouse

alright, kiddo

>How do we fix him
by not being a literal shitter

>balancing around pro picks

when will this meme die?

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It's legitimately saddening to see McCree and Reaper drop to D tier.

Better than balancing the game around bottom tier scrubs who complain about anything that kills them.

When Mcree falls 76 rises, so that's not too sad.

Reaper, on the other hand, is ironic in that it's the triple tank meta that's hurting him.

he's not meta but he's fun af

tracer is a whore. God I love hooking her, raping her and then hearing the beautiful wail as she passes from this world. So hot.

Pro picks are objectively the top characters in the game because they're based on which characters work best if the players aren't retarded and work as a team, without overweighting pro players who are hyperspecialized in their specific mains like Misfits. Judging characters based on low-skill play is fucking retarded because shitters will be shitters regardless of what character they play and the least bad player in the game will dominate regardless of what character they pick. A Torbjorn can outheal a Lucio if the Lucio player is sufficiently retarded, and a Mercy can get five golds if the player using her is good and stuck in a game full of morons.

Balancing the game around pros leaves out the vast majority of the fanbase. We paid for the game and objectively matter as well.

Balancing the game around scrubs like you is retarded, and would make for the most unbalanced game in existence.

Do you not watch where you walk, do you not hear the junkrat firing its pretty loud, do you not see the trails or the balls falling, why would you walk near him when he dies, why are you so inept

So many questions for OP

>cut power of nades after they bounce by 33%

that was easy

I had almost forgotten how slow Rip Tire's activation used to be. Jesus.

>he doesnt know about the nade and mine combo
better than wasteing time waiting for a trap

>imblying you're one of these "pro gamers" and you have better comp because you suck the cocks of e-celebs at Blizzcon and leech off their meme strats

Pro esports are faker than wrestling.

t. not a degenerate cuck

lower his rate of fire
increase grenade speed

I never implied that. Don't take your insecurities out on me.

And you are most definitely a degenerate cuck.

>Lucio and Reinhardt have fucking risen in usage
What the shit, Blizzard?

for the most part, balancing around the pros has a decent trickle down effect.

Scrubs (usually) can't take advantage of the OP needs to be nerfed, it doesn't affect them.

Meanwhile, stuff that's weak at the pro level gets buffed, making it easier for scrubs to use too.

Finally, stuff that's OP at the scrub level doesn't matter. Players (usually) get better over time, not worse. You learn to adjust to Bastion or you stay bronze forever. If a player can't get better, that's on them.

we fix him by buffing him, larger land mine rasius by 1meter and a 5 second cooldown

>waiting around and hoping someone steps in your trap instead of using one of the best mobility and killing tools Junkrat has

You're an idiot. You set the trap, stay near enough to it that you can tear down whatever walks in, and use the mine for jumping and nade followups.

The only example I can remember of a character that was shit at a pro level being nerfed due to complaints by low level players was Spirit Breaker in dota 2.

Pro players hadn't picked that hero in years and he got a nerf despite having a 50% winrate in pubs simply because people whined loud enough.

Actually Techies as well fits that bill now that I think about it. Nerfed because stupid people didn't like feeling stupid when they died to predictable mine traps.

>i play quickplay therefore my opinion is valid.

holy shit go play on consoles

>McCree this low now

What happened

Blizzard has also outright said they're never going to buff defense characters too much because low level characters find them annoying to play against, so have fun never having a defense character relevant ever beyond desperation stalling as Mei.

76 got buffed. The two have an inverse usage relationship

>silver junkrat main strats

You're overusing your cooldowns. No one in their right mind would set a trap, change their position by mine jumping and getting an air grenade. Airtime is too risky. Just admit you're so shit at aiming your primary fire and you use the mine for quick 120 damage.

Soldier got buffed and there's only room for one medium range hitscan character.

At high level play in arena shooter types it seems to always boil down to mobility being king, it's hard to have a defensive character in that scenario unless they're literal bullet sponges or can remove mobility.

>Literally only tanks, healers, soldier, and Tracer get used at all

Honestly I feel like McCree needs a new quirk. Perhaps a roll refresh every elimination similar to how Genji's dash works? Perhaps having lower reload times and more horizontal mobility could make him half decent against the aggressive tank meta.

I kind of miss when Pharah was comparatively good. Talespin was a fucking madman at Pharah v Pharah aerial fights.

Blizzard's in-game definitions for attack and defense characters seems to boil down to mobility vs. damage, but in practice most of the attack characters are high damage anyway so why bother ever picking a defense character when they have neither overwhelming firepower (aside from Bastion turret which is ridiculously easy to counter) nor adequate mobility?

>mercy in F tier

wow, the objectively best healer is not picked? with a fucking res? wtf are pros thinking

That'd make him fuck busted and I say that as someone who plays a ton of him. I'd like something, sure but the FtH nerf was an ugly but sadly necessary thing. I know if they do anything beyond minor number tweaks it'll just mean an incoming into the ground nerfbatting.

Literally all they need to do is revert McCree to how he was at launch and then give fan a cooldown. That would make him perfectly balanced. Either that or give his roll iframes.

She's too easy to pick off, and her healing doesn't make up for it. Lucio is almost a requirement with his speed boost, and light all around heals. Ana's ult is pretty OP, and her heals are nothing to scoff at. Zenyatta has alright healing with some serious damage output.

Detritusrodent suffers from the same problem old beta TF2 demoman does, which is that his pills explode and do full damage when walked over.

I think if Blizz gets rid of this ability and gives him more satchels they would clearify his role as a more technical area denial specialist, and not just a spam specialist

the problem is that 76 and Mcree fill the same niche. As long as they do that you'll never have both be as viable at the same time

Nerfing Lucio's healing has just led to pros giving up on sustained healing, so they roll three tanks for survivability, Lucio speed boosts most of the time so the tanks can get into close range where they're most effectively as quickly as possible, and the supports just focus on charging their ults as quickly as possible.

Unless Misfits are involved, pro matches have devolved into "first to break the enemy Rein shield wins"

Way to prove your a complete shitter.

>just buff McCree back to being the overpowered peice of shit he was on launch and then he'll be balanced

t. McCree main

Literally the only thing wrong with McCree at launch was he could doublefan everyone to death. That's it. Give fan a cooldown and this solves literally the only thing that made him overpowered without going into fancy retarded bullshit.

Riptire gets play of the game the same way Death Blossom does.

JR is extremely situational right now. He needs a good buff to make him a more viable pick.

The problem is, he's in the same spot as Torbjorn and Bastion. Against new or unskilled players, he's extremely devastating. But once you get to around Platinum, he's fucking pathetic. You'll be the first pickoff next to your healers.

So if you buff JR to make him more viable in higher ranks, you make him a must pick at lower levels and he goes from frustrating to play against to "FUCK YOU BLIZZARD IM UNINSTALLING THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GAME"

And even if he were to get a buff, I'm not really sure what they could do. His damage is fine, but his control of the damage is limited to his trap and mine. Maybe they could add in a sticky grenade functionality to him? But even then, that doesn't really change him much, does it?

>D.Va that high

D.Va is useless trash. Did she get a buff while I was too busy washing the Season 2 stink off me?

50% faster while shooting
100 extra HP

D.Va is a near must pick nowadays. They changed her shield mechanics so she's more of a viable tank, gave her more HP, and increased her movement speed while firing and changed her spread a tiny bit.

She can soak up pretty much any damage ult, too. Just has to stand on top of the ulting player and it's negated most every time.

Buffing McCree back to his overpowered form would barely affect the meta. You have triple tank to worry about now bitchboi.

Lucio only got more useful with the speed buff removed from Ana's ult.

yeah reapers not that good against them. or its probably just a testament to how good the tanks are. hog 1 shots him, 40+ charge zarya solos him easy, and dva can shred him and deny his damage.

Her movement buff was pretty significant. Main issue is she got a health buff too, making her an insane Ana target. If anything Ana's burst healing/nade combo'd with defense matrix is the only reason she exists in the B tier.

Phara's fine right now. with the mercy self healing buff the combo is near unstoppable

I know he needs more to be good but I kinda want a Total Mayhem buff.

>not using your mine as an instant point blank explosion

how to make junkrat good

Junkrat needs a buff from the ground up. it's embarassing how shitty the projectile classes are in this game who aren't named Hanzo or Genji are.

>with the speed buff removed from Ana's ult.

Good, fuck that shit

>Reinhardt and Ana
>Ana's always nanococksucking Reinhardt

now without the speedboost people can actually run away from nanoboosted reinhardt so he's not the sole choice anymore.

I think people have a misconception about Junkrat. He's a good character that has a high damage area denial kit, but he just doesn't fit into the current meta caused by Ana. Junkrat isn't good at getting impact frags which more or less causes Ana to heal the target back up. Ana charging her nano boost faster is much more significant than Junkrat charging his riptire quickly because nano can be potentially game winning while riptire fucking sucks.

You're fucking retarded. Mine is the best controlled fire ability JR has. You toss it over shields or in the air to take out flying targets. Anyone who uses it just for the trap/mine combo is a shitter and is bad at JR.

I legitimately wonder how people can make a thread like this, not look back on it, and think "Wow, I fucking suck at this game"

What rank are you even?

Except it doesn't even matter with Lucio giving out the speed boost anyway.

Correction, anyone who picks Junkrat is a shitter and is bad at OW.

At Platinum and above, I agree. But if you're looking to climb from ELO Hell, JR is one of the best picks.

watch harbleus junkrat on anubis and hanamura defense.

600 HP and 25% increased movement speed while firing. The +100 HP is exactly what she needed to not die so easily combined with boosting out of danger. Defense Matrix can soak any projectile including ults like Zarya's Gravitron Surge, Mei's Blizzard, Pharah's Barrage, S76's Tactical Visor, etc. D.Va moving faster than other tanks like Reinhardt and Roadhog makes it easier for her to help push and Defense Matrix soaking everything can provide good cover for someone else to destroy turrets, Bastion, etc.

>tfw trying to kill shit with D.va
>trying to kill another D.va
>we sit there pelting each other at point blank in the face for 10 seconds

Is there any way that Mercy can be rescued from the bottom of the barrel? Her toolkit is just shit compared to the other healers.

>Lucio
>Invaluable speed boost
>Ana
>Biotic grenade, sleep dart, long-ranged attack
>Zen
>back-up healer that functions as a DPS when he doesn't need to heal and ult keeps the team alive against anything that won't instantly kill you

D.va isn't supposed to not die, she is supposed to disrupt like Winston. Now she is a fucking tank with the most annoying shield in the game and dps rolled into one.

She's the only one that has to actively choose between healing and doing damage, which 99% of the time it's going to be the former. She needs something.

>no bm spray

>and DPS

her peashooter still isn't that good, at least she isn't going to be killing solo.

Give her the ability to do other things than just hold down LMB/RMB for heal/boost. That's her biggest downside right now.

maybe give her a triple beam staff that pulses everything constantly. Healing Beam, Power up Beam, and Attack beam. Each has very low output until you pick one to focus on. Like Lucio's choice between extra speed and healing, you can switch your focus really fast based on what you need to do.

Oh and I forgot to mention: they're auto-locking at very close ranges, like Winston's pulse cannon.

The best way to rework McCree is to make him a short range duelist

Roll has i-frames and insta cool downs when you get a kill while his range is nerfed. Now he can exist alongside 76, with them both serving different purposes

I AM SO GETTING SICK OF LUCIO, FUCK THAT NIGGER, FUCK HIM.

>objectively annoying to die to

But so is every character user, this isn't a hardcore cowadoody shooter

You need to git gud

>How do we fix him Sup Forums?
How do I be more of a bitch Sup Forums?