P5 VS FFXV

P5 PS4 first week: 264,793 units
FFXV PS4 first week: 690,471

>FF killer

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10 years

Perhaps you'd care to post the budget for each of them next, user? :^)

>game cost 1/10 of FFXV to make
>sold half as much as FFXV
really makes u think

>Persona 5 is only out in Japan
>has a completely unnecessary PS3 version that nobody bought

FFXIII not only killed interest with fans, but it created a gap that allowed Persona 4 to dominate JRPGs for a new generation.

When Persona 4 is the big dog in the yard, you know you have grave problems with the genre.

>persona 4 was released in 2008

>muhhh avoiding the point
>it costed more!

Face it, your series will never outsell FF in any region

>sold as much despite being almost 3 times less than the competition

I bet Square made all the money back with that fucking gigantic ramen product placement.

FFXV also has a unnecessary X1 version

>Persona 5 is only out in Japan

So we're talking about FF sales in JP.

>Face it, your series

I've never played a Persona game. Your tantrum is very entertaining though, user.

if we judge video games by how well they sell

i mean yeah.
FF can pretty much sell a unfinished piece of crap and still get near 1mil, due to it's brand name alone.
doesn't mean that it's a bigger success than P5

>P5 PS4 first week: 264,793 units
>FFXV PS4 first week: 690,471
lmao why do they even bother releasing games in japan

Why is it so hard to get accurate sales numbers? They report stupid shit like "shipped" or "retail sales" or "estimates" and shit like that. Why the fuck can they not get a tally of physical + digital sales and JUST REPORT THE REAL NUMBERS.

>Persona 5 is Atlus' fastest selling game in Japland
That should tell you something

Merchandise.
Tha's where they get more revenue

FFXV is good, user. Maybe you should play it.

This, these games were highly advertised in their nation and can't even break a million.

They should sell the games to the west and spend their marketing budget there

i fucking did, took me 24h.
not worth it at all.

Whoever thought it was the FF killer is out of their mind. FF will forever be popular no matter how mediocre it stays, it has mass appeal. It's the CoD of JRPGs.

FFXV
>Nips hate it
>Westerners like it

Persona 5
>Nips love it
>Westerners ???? (Coming soon on April 4th)

So you did nothing but power through the story?

So, are you gonna be the one to volunteer to compile the sales numbers from every single store that has stocked the game?

I am 18 hours in and i am on chapter III lel.

>27hrs in
>still in chaper 4
Game was clearly not for you.
Sorry.

>Westerners ????

They don't even know what persona is, the only people who will buy it will be standard weeb audience

whoever called it a FF killer in the first place is retarded

Don't those stores have to report the numbers somewhere? Isn't that how businesses work, every fucking thing is tracked? How do they deal with shit like audits and shit about where their god damn money comes from? If the actual "sales" numbers don't fucking matter and the publishers get all their money from what they ship to retailers, why do people always say "shipped" numbers do not measure a games success?

>Implying FFXV is not a weeb game

I hate persona but fuck off, XV side content boils down to
>fetch this fetch that

None of the side content has a interesting side plot to it to make you give a fuck, even GTA 5 did this much much better than that.

Literally one of the missions was "hey noctis go buy me a tomato"

I think by FF Killer people just meant "actually a good game"

hunts are god tier.

Especially when the enemy that is your level fucking oneshoots you wtf square.

>Sidequests must be relevant to the plot

Well it is but at the same time the game IS advertised in the west and all they show is 4 bro's riding a nice ass car slaying monsters in a large open world, normalfags will eat it up looking for a new RPG.

I agree the side quests could be much better but for me the combat is one of the best things about this game, especially when you fight stronger enemies.

You still need to find all those audits and compile them, and not every company makes their numbers public.

I'm sure a lot of them do report copies sold to devs though.

> If the actual "sales" numbers don't fucking matter and the publishers get all their money from what they ship to retailers, why do people always say "shipped" numbers do not measure a games success?
Because if the copies shipped don't sell it will mean no new copies with be shipped.

And no new copies shipped means no more money.

>tfw beat an enemy 20 levels higher than me

You dumb fuck side quest themselves gotta have some plot to it to make you care about it, not "go get this" and rinse and repeat. XV really fucking expects people to do 80 uninteresting fetch quests like holy shit they're trying bore people here.

The main guy is a prince but feels like an errand boy

>FF fags so desperate for any victory for their boy band sim they attack a series no one gives a shit about
EL
OH
EL

P4 has the same kind of sidequests.
In fact, lots of rpgs have that kind of sidequests

>personafags are damage controlling so bad after their endless summer rant of how this persona will sell better than FF since it's not pandering to the west

And those games are shit for it.

SEETHING

...

>P4 has the same kind of sidequests.

Since when did i say i liked P4

And yes some RPG's have this but like i said, they actually have side missions made with effort too or you gonna pretend every single side mission in witcher 3 had no plot and was just go fetch this.

XV has the most laziest side content i've seen in modern RPG's

Persona 5 who released just in Japan sold almost half of FFXVs international sales. Hmm really makes you think

FFXV' gameplay is infinitely superior to TW3.
>opinions

So? Talking about the side content here

You do realize OP listed only the JP sales of XV here?

these are japanese numbers idiot if we knew the international numbers it would not even be a competition.

guess you really didn't think after all, personafag

>No PS3
Nice try

>Desperate for any victory

You do realize XV is a raging success right?

P5 would be lucky to break a 2 million

XV didn't have a PS3 release.

We are comparing strictly PS4 sales which account for most of the game sales anyways

XV still sold twice as much if you add in PS3 anyways

>437,929 copies (including the PS3 and PS4 versions together) have been sold-through, from September 15 to October 2, 2016

Again, nice try.
There's no real reason to buy P5 on PS4. The PS3 version is even slightly smoother.

>XV still sold twice as much if you add in PS3 anyways
Ok. Gotta pick it up on PS3 then. Is it called Versus?

1. They didn´t say the number of digital sales

2. Really? suddenly Japan matters? They love Lightning

>They love Lightning
They really, really don't. Even XV sold 3 times better than Lightning Return, and you have to see their opinion on her.

Retard.

This is Persona 5's PS3 first week data

>[PS3] Persona 5 (Atlus, 09/15/16) – 72,794 (New)


Try harder, i'm only talking first week here since XV itself data accounts for a single week release

I was merely pretending. haha

That's still substantial, at last you corrected this.

You do realize 300k+ sales belong to just the PS4 version right?

Persona cucks BTFO

Yes that they are a shitty irrelevant company.

Doesn't change the fact that if you add that to PS4 week one sales XV still sold more than twice

FFXV and P5 might as well be different genres of games.

As someone who owns and has played both of them, I genuinely enjoy both games.

Persona 5 is actually a harder game than Shin Megami Tensei III, and arguably the best traditional JRPG ever made, definitely one of the better ones. Great story, believable characters too.

Final Fantasy XV is an evolution of the series into a full blown action rpg, and it's great. The open world is fantastic even if the story mode is often lacking or has boring sequences. Story is mediocre, but the characters and interactions between them keep things grounded. I would argue combat in FFXVs late game is more fun than anything in Persona 5.

Basically they're two very different but good games and to compare them is silly. Just play them if you want to.

Well I guess polls and neofags are just trolling, I can see Trolliyama pushing polls tryng to push his shitty waifu everywhere

>japan-only sales vs. world-wide sales

>being retarded

FFXV season pass when? I wanna play this when they include everything so it can give a me a sense of completion satisfaction.

Eh, FFXV is so simple with the combat. You have less manual control than you do in even Kingdom Hearts 1, and that's not the smoothest action game experience.

Since it swapped genres, its most reasonable to compare it to other action RPGs like the Tales of series or Dragon's Dogma, and it's pretty solidly beneath the gameplay of those.

>meanwhile at nintendo
>6/06/15 [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom - 353.201

And that one costed 1/10 of persona 5, let alone FF15.

>believable characters too.

Stop living in your imaginary anime world weeabo.

>Implying FFXV is not a imaginary anime world weeabo

P5 started full development in 2010
FFXV started full development in 2012

It didn't.

>P5 harder
I only got wiped twice in one mid dungeon and the final one because of my bad decision to push on without healing. But the game definitely did not felt hard on the normal difficulty compare to smt 3.

Sounds like you didn't do anything but just do the main story, so you didn't bother to actually give the game a real try but just tried to rush through it so you could shitpost on the net. Also missed a ton of things you wouldn't have gotten outside the main story.

All in all I spent about 80 hours doing both main story and sidequest stuff until I decided I wanted to finish the main story, and now I have all the time in the world to do the remaining side activities.

>Game that had a worldwide release outsold a Japan only release

Did you do the Costlemark dungeon?

>zoi poster
>retarded

I'm not surprised.

Persona fags can't read it seems.

Those XV sales are Japan only.

Are you, by any chance, underage?

...? Has anyone ever attempted to say that in a serious manner?
It's like saying Yokai Watch would kill Pokemon.

You realize 50k is decent sales in japan right?

200k is considered a huge hit

Reminder that FFXV is only on ps4 (xbox do not exist for japanese) and that P5 is in BOTH ps3 and ps4.

>>FF killer
Well, XV kill it, I mean literally if WW sales is not reach 5M then FF franchise is in big fucking trouble and I'm not joking.

>10 years
>8.2
>not even 700k

BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY

That the problem, in the west those figures are shit tier.

>FF13 PS3 day one sales
>1.05 million

>FFXV PS4 first week
>690k

What the fuck happened to the FF brand?

>all this damage controlling now saying "only a retard would think P5 will outsell it" despite them spouting this shit all year

People seriously made that very same claim.

The difference is the money spent. The west spends millions to make 1 shit game, Nips don't even spend half that to make Atelier Totori, Trails in the sky, Guilty Gear or Rune Factory

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Hmmm...

>FFXV PS4 first week: 690,471
That includes XBone as well actually

>all those retard who blamed the whole market as the reason why it doesn't sell well

I...its not the game fault! Its the Japanese! Console is DEAD!

>P5 launch sales doubled from P4

Yes just look at this thread, retards thinking it's JP vs WW sales, that alone shows how delusional and dumb are personafags.