How is this WoW clone actually successful? It doesn't even do anything better than Vanilla WoW

How is this WoW clone actually successful? It doesn't even do anything better than Vanilla WoW.

I know this is just a bait so we can have a FFXIV general, but I'll bite because I want to talk about it

>far better story, with great cutscenes, a plot that continues for the rest of the game, making your self-insert part of it, characters are more fleshed out
>superb PVE encounters, that almost all of them follow some kind of plot that makes you immerse in the game and give them a reason to appear, raids are great, trials are great, dungeons are a little boring, but nonetheless some of them are interesting
>amazing OST that accompanies you in everything you do, crafting, gathering, PVE, PVP, and is actually used for boss encounters, with some of them being really memorable
>complexity in DPS and healers JOBs, while tanks are also easy, DRK and WAR requieres certain skill to play it optimally
>crafting and gathering system is a world of it's own, being far deeper than most games
>being able to change job at will
>great animations
>constant updates, with the next expansion having a bigger budget

It's not that successful. HW has bled most of its subs. Estimates places them around 200-300k

>least used tertiary DRK combo costs 60tp
>all others 50tp

>least used tertiary PLD combo costs 50tp
>all others 60tp

What the fuck is Yoshi thinking

>many worlds full and sometimes locked out
>tons of leafs walking around, in cities and open world

I agree that mid-HW it had a drought, but the game is going strong, it will never reach the WoW numbers because it doesn't have a chinese market

Those "estimates" were just completely made up lies endlessly spammed by some autist on Sup Forums, retard. Congratulations for falling for fake news.

The subscriber counts have never dipped below 500k.

>many worlds full and sometimes locked out

How many, exactly? 3? They're mostly locked out because every other server is 'dead' and nobody wants to hang on a dead server.

EU is completely dead.

I don't think they game has above 300k subs

Tfw no sub end me senpaitachi

Low subs or not (I don't know why people care so much about sub count, desu) there's barely anything to do.

There's no real glamour grind. Diadem is shit. PotD is grindy as fuck and ruined like 6-7 markets. Not even any reason to go out and mindlessly farm some monsters because they don't drop anything.

because it has actually fun encounters with fun mechanics

He doesn't when it comes to Paladin.
>Tank stance not until level fucking 40

There's one single small change I really fucking want for BRD.
Make Iron Jaws hit sound fucking louder!
PLEASE!

>WHm still the only caster without infinite mana

Tanking is no easier than DPSing or healing. In fact, if anything is easier than the others, it's DPSing. Also loling at WAR requiring skill when it's the easiest tank.

Otherwise good post.

>PotD is grindy as fuck and ruined like 6-7 markets
PotD ruined my daily map routine where I would go and dig level 50 maps to try to find some Mariner Cotton Cloth or Blue Fox Hide to sell.
I made over 15M with this alone.

I meant to say that tank job is fairly easy, but DRK and WAR are a bit harder due to it's mechanics, PLD is the easiest imo

Eh, in most cases tanks have to do all the same mechanics that DPS do but also have their own mechanics. Tanks also need to be DPSing as much as possible but also be prepared to mitigate damage as well. Tanks also almost always are expected to know the entire encounter to the point that everything is second nature, while DPS can skate through and get carried if the other DPS in the group are decent, because you always have at least twice as many DPS in a group as you do tanks.

Hello i'm on break from FFXIV is it a good time to come back or should i wait for stormblodd

>reach 46, first time playing
>next MSQ is 49
>have to grind like a motherfucker now on either fates, leves, or dungeons because there's no more side quests left of my level
>leveling pace and eagerness to play plummets hard because everyone else in the FC is 60 and working on end game content
>dps class

Why is there such an egregious gap between 46 to 49? For what fucking purpose?

Depends. Did you finish HW MSQ 3.55 yet?

>Yoshi
>thinking

POTD

Tanks have more complex rotations by nature of having to mix in defensive cooldowns and make trades for mitigation vs damage as part of their rotation, though.

t. 98th % tank

its not a wow clone, people are only calling it because the only way another mmo can be successful is if it copies WoW.

Its different and better.

i left when the stamp book hit i don't remember which patch was that

>needing a tank stance when all you do is mash rage of halone combo until 54

So, currently, whats the best method to farm lores besides ARF?

It's a theme park mmo, but it's a theme park for handicapped wheelchair bound people. It caters to people who are too casual for WoW, the types of retards who would actually pay money to play on a pve server because they need safe spaces.

I just can't wait for it to drop loads of wool tops and new world shit so aquapolis can be rendered absolutely useless, too.

POTD ruined the game.

What is aggro holding?

t. Jew

>far better story
>complexity in DPS

It's really really fucking sad nobody grinds F.A.T.E.S anymore

>in most cases tanks have to do all the same mechanics that DPS do but also have their own mechanics

Exactly what are 'most cases' where tanks have their own mechanics to worry about? Because 99% of the time when i tank all i have to do is keep the boss faced away from the party.

its elementary dear user, See WoWs turned to shit, evident by the people hopping on the nost for vanilla servers.

You could pretty much bring any MMO to this level, Final Fantasy just does it 'well' because of its brand

3.4

I think it was a great addition.

move to a more populated server then, people are still doing fates as usual there

I grind fates for seals

war and drk get tank stances earlier because they have other combos to perform not tied to their enmity combos such as maim and syphon strike
do you understand now?

What class is a good one to start with?
I wanna play for christmas.

Daily roulette
PotD

Link please?

lancer and then DRG

Moving the boss around, tank swaps, mitigating tank busters, walking through the boss when they do shit like Slipstream, picking up adds, etc. There's more. I could have mentioned things like the Spiny Plume in Garuda EX.

It's noticeably easier to rip aggro off a PLD in 30-40 dungeons compared to a DRK/WAR

>1-2-3 combo til level 45

Sure if you want to put people to sleep

Yeah but they also have better AoE threat generation than PLD, that does damage too no less. PLD cycling combo on multiple targets is pretty ass for enmity management, and spamming flash is not only doing nothing at all for damage, you're taking more damage than the other two would because your shield doesn't make up for the lack of tank stance damage mitigation.

Arcanist level both a healer (Scholsr) and a DPS (Summoner) jobs at the same time do its a good start.

I'd honestly say that tanking is easier because most things that aren't tank busters won't outright kill you if you fuck up. Switching from tank to DPS during Midas was kinda hard for me since I was used to not dying to most mechanics, and then suddenly fucking everything killed me.

My only complaint is the player base is pretty shitty, getting Savage raids done was like pulling teeth. I stopped after I cleared A3S with a few people I knew on my server because my static had some shitters who they refused to get rid of and the entire raid community was collectively shitting themselves over that fight.

I might come back for Stormblood but Alexander wasn't much of a fun raid to begin with. Did raid finder accomplish anything?

Whatever the fuck you want, mate. All classes are decent.
Don't play gladiator/paladin though, you'll probably drop the game. Happened for me for the first time I tried it.
Also should you decide to play lancer/dragoon keep at it until after level 26 because it's probably the class with the most boring early levels of them all.

tfw no sub end me

>main BLM for dps
>started getting comfortable with WHM for healing
can't wait for RDM to be a tank

SAM will be the tank.

This game has an army of shills and paid off websites that pretend it's a success when it's not.

The sub numbers for this game have never been good and they sure as hell aren't good now. Their mistake was having a website that tracks players and can be shown who is and is not active.

It is however, one of the most expensive mmorpg titles to play that are currently running.

>subscirption of $12 a month
>buy initial game
>buy expansions
>fucking huge f2p style cash shop

Yeah, no. Weeabo game for stupid assholes.

raid finder is good for the ex trials and a9s and a10s. I wasn't at endgame when a3s was relevant but i heard its the reason gilga is full now.

You can ignore every single bit of that save for doing savage or EX and do fine. And again, 'moving a boss' is 99% of the time just planting your ass at the end of an arena.

SAM will not be coming for 4.0

Yet this is the only modern MMO with a large skillgap and where your rotation matters, down to the 0.6s animation lock on GCDs

Games that are doing well don't shill to the level FFXIV is, you only have to look at Sup Forums to see the desperation.

If you're going to use the excuse that it's only hard for Savage and EX, the same is true for DPS and healing.

>And again, 'moving a boss' is 99% of the time just planting your ass at the end of an arena.

Not really, no.

I still don't see why you people are so horny about sub numbers, like it matters?

Don't POTD! It'll kill your drive pretty fast if you aren't insane. Do the roulette, duties, highest level dungeon (when you have rested xp). POTD weapon is nice though.

What class?

Thought so, lame. Thanks user.

>if people are talking about it a lot, it's shilling!
>if nobody is talking about it, it's dead!
>if people are talking about it a lot, it's sometimes both shilling and dead!

Fuck off retard.

Keep your weapon upgraded and it's a non issue

It's shitty but you should still have no issues holding hate
PLD lacking aoe dmg means very little in end game

They're asshurt WoWfags who can only interpret the quality of an MMO through "muh sub numbers".

you know they cycle lockouts right?

as someone who has actually played this game the worse thing is being limited to 2 retainers for storage, and every extra retainer is +1 on top of your sub

and every significant qol request is met with "server limitations"

and primal data center gets cucked every other week because some bullshit

Find a better FC.

Mine fucking loves running old content with new people.

>all those people in full 270
>too late to learn savage and make friends

different user

FFXIV is more mechanical while WoW is more spastic. if you hit buttons without thinking too much on FFXIV you'll actually be fucked since the GCD is too long (for that purpose even)

so basically WoW is skills and FFXIV is thinking

I know this pain

I'll never know how the coils feel

its never too late friend, I see a9s learning parties more often you would think. Also good fcs who farm savages wont mind bringing you along.

you gotta put effort in it though

BLM

Had some terrible luck with some MSQ quests bugging out on me and making progress pretty terrible; getting by only because of Sleep. I'm starting to worry about leveling a MNK once I hit cap on this character. I'm on Balmung so I can't just do it on my main

It's Square Enix that care about sub numbers.

Which is why they always mislead the press about them. They want to be seen as a success, they always try to link themselves to wow in all shilling. Just look at this thread.

Iktf
Was excited to start a9s, joined a learning party and holy fuck the only people left after absolute shitters. We wiped on fucking Faust. And when we finally got to the boss half the party started panicking like they've never done normal before. Didn't even get to see the Faust drop.

Maybe when cross server party finder comes things will be different.

WoW has way better design philosophy (see: phasing to keep every zone relevant), but that's about all it has going for it. The AP grind is rigid cancer and legendaries only exacerbate that issue, forcing you into one spec and disallowing any alt characters unless you want the burden of doing twice the amount of garbage content.

Compared to Warcraft's philosophy, XIV just kinda churns you through zones once and never has you revisit them. This extends to every avenue of the game's content pool, as the attractions are transient and are ushered out of the spotlight once the "next big thing" comes into view. Remember Wolves' Den? Lol me neither. Yoshida's teams have no real creative capacity and the game's only claim to fame is that it's a safe undertaking and the degenerate fanbase literally prints money with cash shop fantasias on a sub2play game. XIV has about as much to do as a F2P title.

AP grind vs. absolutely nothing to do. Kek. WoW >= XIV; both dog shit games, and MMOs are a dead breed.

This is what the players keep telling themselves

I actually know a9s, but anything above require a static.

I have a strong urge to play this again after FFXV.

all i can say is you need to sit through a lot of failed groups to find one where youre a good fit, and dont be afraid to leave statics if theyre shit but let them know before you leave

honestly endgame raids should be able tackling challenge with friends, not just gear

thats because a9 and 10 are pretty easy, and any progression group who is stuck there at this point there is either severely gimped or bleeding with no shows wasting everyones time

depending on your server, it may be better just to wait until 4.0

>Raid rotations = skill

What? Hahaha

t. omnicrafter lala jew

If there wasn't some truth to it then why is the average player so dogshit?

>tfw encyclopedia just arrived

>496,412 active subs
Will Stormblood bring back people in droves?

after the failed promise that was heavensward, nah

It's going to be another 3.0

it will bring me and some other people that is on break

I''m glad some of those markets crashed,having cheap Expeditioner's shit has done wonders for my
Leatherworker desynth.

but user, people are already coming in droves, just look at all these players

Not really complexity when the difference when your dps and tank stance are pretty obvious And its more based on what your healers are comfortable with. Overall tank/healer dps is a better metric.

Now that the disaster that was XV is finally finished XIV can finally get fund, so maybe.

Did Legion bring back subscribers?

The answer is no.

source?

Raidin was never about skill. It's about having a group of people with the right class and stable connection.

>can finally get fund
ESL delusions

There is none cause he's an SE cuck. The closest reference was that jp blogger Choco-something or boco who based it off MSQ achievements of 50 and 60 along with raid clears. I haven't played since April after clearing Midas Savage, but I'd memory serves we were at 200-250k active subs.

the real problem is this game has always lacked content between story mode faceroll and endgame raid

and raid difficulty in this game is based around having 8 people on top of their shit instead of individual complexity