Why is RTW the best TW ever?

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It really isn't.

This.

M:TW2 best TW.

>dated aged shit
>good

pick one

R2:TW Emperor Edition with mods (no radious shit, just small AI tweaks and graphics) is objectively the best TW game.

>levy spearmen

can people post some nice vids from what they think the best TW is?

it'd be nicer than reading all this "no, actually.." repeat ad inf

Sure, bro.

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Because the whole formula of the series fits best with ancient warfare.
Rome 2 is an abortion.

do you always have to take palestine in the campaign?

hahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What?

I've looked at some gameplay vids and it said something like "goal: take 50 provinces and palestine" but maybe that was modded

Debatable

Kill yourself

You can realistically do whatever you want, but it's there as an incentive to Crusade and retake the holy lands. Once you have done that, you can drop churchs everywhere to deal with the dirty mussies.

what mod is this?

>Rome 1 kiddie
>debatable
Kys

because Medieval 2 is worse in execution and all the others are worse in concept

Rome 2 is for the most part a turd, one that can't be fixed either, just polished and partially hidden away. If they simply didn't throw a shitfit over map modding I wouldn't even be saying this. It's the one thing that game needed.

>Kys

That's not Medieval Total War 1

Nostalgia.

Objectively Attila is the best TW.

I've looked at rome 2 and ships attacking cities looks kind of stupid

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(points to 34:00)

That's the long campaign, you can choose between that and the short one. Short one is usually fifteen (or twenty, I forget) provinces and one or two closeby historical conquests of the nation.

>Attila is the best TW
my niggus

It´s not by a long shot.
The base game was janky as shit and gets mostly praised for a supposedly HUGE unit roster that is really not big at all.
The combat is skirting mediocrity, in no small part to the insane speed.
The squalor mechanics are bad and at some point almost require you to balance them out with the temple of zeus wonder, or you will have constant riots in cities with maxed happiness and lowest tax and full with units, which you can in turn only afford with the collossus or the hanging gardens.
the campaign factions are unbalanced and except for rome and some others most are boring as hell.

The expansion did make it a whole lot better, but it did not adress the core problems.
Alexander expansion was utter crap second only to stormrise.

I remember the constant riots, after some points I just gave up
>take doomstack out of the city because even a fucking legion cant keep plebs from rebelling
>they rebel soon
>use my doomstack to kill everyone in the city
>they are finally at peace

Invasio Barbarorum SAI

I really hate the replenishment system in the newer games, since it makes how many casualties you sustain or inflict practically meaningless unless you find yourself in a battle the very next turn.
In the old games if your army was depleted it would have serious consequences since you'd either have to replenish/retrain your units at a nearby settlement with the right buildings, which is a timely process that isn't even always possible, or you'd have to bring up another fresh army to replace the battered one. Meaning that even winning a battle could prove catastrophic if you don't have the resources to keep fighting afterwards.

But in the new games, you can just let your army do nothing for two turns and it'll be back to normal. Meaning it makes no difference in a siege whether you play conservatively and only sacrifice 150 men or if you just zerg rush through the gate and lose 2000 men.

feels like attila is like how they wanted rome 2 to be than rome 2 is.

That's not Shogun 1.

it had the cleanest, most responsive controls, best unit pathing and the best rock paper scissors balance of all the TWs. no other tw feels anywhere near as good to hammer and anvil in.
theyre both good. it comes down to personal taste. rome definitely has the best multiplayer tho.

and I forgot to mention it's also annoying when the same thing counts for your enemy. In the old games there wasn't a big rush if there were remnants left of a beaten enemy army, but now you have to stay right on their ass if you didn't completely wipe out their army so they don't just replenish automatically in a couple of turns.

oh sorry the vid is attila not rome 2 but it works the same in rome 2, right?

Attila is the best mechanically, I don't really think that can be disputed

I think the replenishment system should have been slowed down, it fit in Napoleon due to how the warfare was at that time but it was kept as a simplicity really.

It's really sad that they chose to focus on making this series more and more cinematic, instead of more and more challenging. I am so sick of seeint webms and screenshots of a giant herd of men flailing at eachother like its supposed to be impressive.

True, I wouldn't mind a system where standard units can replenish themselves over say ten turns, if you're just using them as a garrison someplace. Then ideally if you want them replenished faster or have elite troops, you should have to do it manually.

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TW series peaked at Shogun 2: Tom Cruise boogaloo

Isn't every turn in Rome like 6 months?
Even back then it would have only taken a week to get a few soldiers from your capital to the other side of Europe.

>Even back then it would have only taken a week to get a few soldiers from your capital to the other side of Europe.

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this is like the perfect example of rome 1 multiplayer. micro intensive cav battles that devolve into noob boxing and shit talk

>peaked at Shogun 2:
think I have to agree with this, though R2 adding seamless naval and land sieges was pretty good and a great step.

Last I remember Rome 2's turns were a whole year, really shitty lazy system and I can't even remember if that was changed.

Not, its FotS

>iPod game
Better than PC ones
Kek

>vanilla RTW

>Even back then it would have only taken a week to get a few soldiers from your capital to the other side of Europe.

rude