How does Sup Forums feel about Escape from Tarkov? It's got too-good-to-be-true levels of weapon customization so far...

How does Sup Forums feel about Escape from Tarkov? It's got too-good-to-be-true levels of weapon customization so far. Lots of attention to detail too.

Sup Forums told me its going to suck, so I hate it! Fucking cash grab, p2w, jews, not s.t.a.l.k.e.r, buzzword, shill, fucking sucks

It's own compleixity will propably be its downfall.

This but unironically

It looks way too good to be true. But it seems like the closest thing to come to STALKER in quite a bit. Perhaps even better.

Unnecessary shit that has no impact on the game. That kind of shit only appeals to autists.

It looks fucking amazing, almost too good to be true.

I'm waiting until the game is out to figure out the catch, but so far it looks just my kind of game.

I'm getting kind of tired of them teasing an open beta and then only letting pre-orders test it. And then hiding an "open beta" behind a fucking contest. Come on

The next No Man's Sky

Gear queers are the fucking worst, I swear.

Slavshit that looks way too good to be true. I'll probably never see proper servers in my country.

I hope the STALKER games are remade within it.

NO, user, FORGET ABOUT THIS GAME!
Devs only made this ttp://store.steampowered.com/app/374280/
Its a CoD clone previously for webplayer in russian social network Vkontakte. Escape from Tarkov itself is same game with same weapon models and even maps. It has only PvP on usual small maps and PvE is only planned. Its not Open World or Survival, its session shooter from devs of session shooter. Im Russian and we know this studio.

Didn't it have a confirmed single player?

No, the opposite according to their site.

Alpha is being extended hombre.

I enjoy it. Haven't played the beta/alpha in a minute, but it was fun.

Dev teams split up. The ones that worked on Contract Wars and Hired Ops are different from the ones working on Escape From Tarkov.

It is nothing like that game.

I played the Alpha, I can confidently tell you that the weapon customization is as advertisted

Regardless of how the actual game is structured, as long as I get to sperg out with some gun porn then sign me the fuck up.

does the game feel clunky?

So far the AI is clunky.

One moment they can stare into space like a retard, other moments they can shoot like a pro behind multiple bushes 100m away

Well devs said they improved AI alot in the new video, can't say for sure until i see it for myself.

Honestly I hope they add anomalies or creatures in this game. Don't get me wrong, I love me some shoot baddies but imagine the thrill of X-18 but with buddies.

Attention to detail = Good
Realistic projectile physics = Good
Weapon handling / recoil characteristics = Good

MMO crap = Not good
Level progression and stats = Not good
Rapid wear/tear of equipment that realistically takes years of constant abuse = Not good
Painful slow inventory management in what otherwise has fast-paced shooter gameplay = Not good
Having to deal with thirst and bullshit like that = Not good
Centralized multiplayer service = Not good
Limited modding potential because of multiplayer focus = Not good
Tacked on singleplayer because of multiplayer focus = Not good

Some of the Not Good stuff I could forgive in a singleplayer game, but since this is meant to be focused on multiplayer these seriously drag it down.

To sum up: Everything related to gunplay looks good. Everything to do with everything else looks fucking awful. If they were making a singleplayer stalker look-alike I'd be quite excited. But since it's more like some aborted DayZ fetus, I think it's going to suck.

The sad thing is that its failure is going to inevitably be blamed on the gunplay, and not the shitty RPG stuff they're trying to shove into the game.

Supposedly the 'stare into blank space' is a tactic used by the AI to trick players into thinking they are in fact players who are AFK

I dont know if thats genius or stupid

>MMO crap = Not good
Its not an MMO, the best way to describe it is a battle royale but you keep whatever you save by escaping

Its going to have a 'persistent' zone you run around freely like Destiny has where players can group up for 'dungeons'

Well its P2W already

That being said I do enjoy some good gun porn and it was on sale so I purchased a copy

It's stupid. You've probably only read a dev making a joke.

Who the fuck actually does this in multiplayer? It's like a one-in-a-thousand occurence and it's the sort of stupid shit that directly breaks the fourth wall when the game is all about immersion.

If it's not a joke, it's an insipid shitty excuse made by a moron.

They still need work, but there are different AI behavior I've encountered so far

Aggressive AI will hunt you down when spotted, kicks then door open

Cowardly AI that run to nearest cover and camps there and takes pot shots at you if he sees you

Campy Ambush motherfuckers that stayed in one spot and oneshots you the moment you're within range

It might be clever in some kind of system that isn't based on brutal damage. If resources are scarce and I know I can't get instantly BTFO, I can see situations where someone who looks AFK would totally convince me to save bullets or whatever and get a cheesy knife kill. But i don't think it syngergizes well with the given system.

I would shoot "AFK" AI and take their gun to sell or get free ammo if the gun matches

That's the obvious answer in a system that is all about the sick headdies, but in something slower, I can imagine it.

>people on Sup Forums aren't asking for videos or webms from people who can access the alpha

What weird dimension am I in? This is a fucking anonymous image board

NDA will be lifted in a few days

It absolutely will be pay-to-win eastern european bullshit.

You know there is a reason why they're hiding it behind a paywall and NDA.

Are they doing the NDA the permanent watermarked style? If they aren't it's pretty easy to screen grab and not get fucked.

I could smell it a mile away when I watched their video

Pay2Win ammo
Pay2Win weapon fixing
Pay2Win skill leveling
Pay2Win weapons
Pay2Win equipment

You'll be forced into a shitty never-ending grind if you don't purchase goybucks and then in-game stat boosts.

So while parts of the game look great, it's attached to so much cancerous bullshit that the whole thing will be a failure.

It's not a F2P game. Nobody in this day and age has p2w features in a p2p game.

They have watermarks that move around all over the screen with userID, gameID, time and date

Is it seeing release outside Russia, or those slavic countries.

I don't know a single thing about it other then the weapon customization. I want to get it, but I'm concerned that it won't have any singleplayer, will be entirely PVP, and I'll be descended upon by CoD kiddies that have reflexes better then mine by a mile.

If it's got singleplayer modes though, it'll potentially be a first day purchase for me.

>Nobody in this day and age has p2w features in a p2p game.
Every single sub MMO ever

Please kill yourself

It has PvE, including both solo v AI and party v AI in what are basically dungeons.

But there is no doubt the main game is the PvP 'escape from this shithole filled with yoloquicksnoping' cod kiddies, but also AI.

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>Countries according to Russians

>Russia + puppets
>Europe (that place they want to control)
>Other shit they dont care about

Sounds about right

>They have watermarks that move around all over the screen with userID, gameID, time and date
I mean

Just use paint to get rid of it? how is this an issue.

Someone post some screens already

It has
p2w storage space
so I have the largest storage space in the game to keep my gear

p2w backpack
the biggest backpack in the game to store more stuff during raid

p2w charisma
NPC traders will like me more and offer their stuff at a discount or sell my stuff at a higher price

I'll wait for it, then. It sounds fucking awesome, and I'd honestly just get it for weapon customization, but I'll probably suffer with this the same way I did with Squad
>Enjoy the fuck out of the game
>Can't see a single goddamn enemy
>Get sniped constantly from dudes 300+ meters away
>Can't contribute a single thing to the team other then communications and tactical advice
>Get yelled at constantly to start killing dudes, an integral part of the game
>Just can't see goddamn shit anywhere

>>Can't see a single goddamn enemy
Stop moving and sit still, its near impossible to move and see people.

Also shoot where others are shooting, suppression and firing in the general direction of the bad guys is 99% of the gunplay which I fucking love. Get some real firefights going on.

Fighting AI indoors is easy.

Outside is a fucking pain especially in forestry areas because they can oneshot you behind multiple bushes 100m+ away

This happened way too often

ah so you are one of those, who label experience boosters and cosmetics as ''pay to win''.

Damn you are a fucking retard.

Well it does look fantastic, and that's what worries me.
>looks gorgeous
>gameplay looks fun
>gun porn
>cool setting
>cool atmosphere
>cool TECHNOLOGY
>realism

There HAS TO BE something wrong somewhere.

casuals will bitch and whine that the game is too hard and devs will cave into dumbing the game down thus ruining the whole game

Sounds to me like the AI's 'vision' isn't being occluded by bushes and shit.

Those absolutely are pay2win

desu I'm a /k/ommando and I'm intimidated by this. There's really no point in so much customization, it's just way too complex for it's own good

these are slavs, I'm not sure they really give a fuck.

>ah so you are one of those, who label experience boosters and cosmetics as ''pay to win''.

Not him, but I'd classify anything purchased beyond just the game itself that gives you an advantage - slight or incredulous - as pay-to-win.

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Well then, I guess according to it's already p2w

It'll all be attached to pay2win RPG bullshit mechanics that drag everything down and make it less fun

How are cosmetics an advantage though?

I feel the same way, not good to have this much freedom

Fuck I wouldn't have thought they could make that seam on a Rhino's barrel any harder to look at, yet there it is

>preorder gives 20% discount
I know I shouldn't but goddamn it if it's not tempting

The devs are not americans, they won't puss out.

People don't think cosmetics are pay 2 win until you realize that devs will literally implement default color schemes and profiles that make you stick out like a sore thumb, and then give you cosmetic options known as camouflage or black camo, so you have a decided advantage in situations where it's difficult to actually see what you look like.

>dropped

Think of it this way:
If it's good, the extra money you spend for not pre-ordering ends up going to a developer worth patronizing and both of you win out better.

If it sucks, you save all your money.

Devs push for pre-orders because the nebulous idea of what the game is, usually hooks more money than the actual realized version of the game does.

>How are cosmetics an advantage though?

I didn't say they were. I said anything that gives you an advantage. Cosmetics do not give you an advantage.

If someone uses their p2w backpack in a raid and they die, you can loot it.

>Chiappa Rhino
What are the chances of a Mateba Unica? Gets me rock fuckin solid

Name me a single game where camo skins are only purchasable with real money.

Camo skins are ALWAYS the fucking cheapest (in game currency) skins available. If anything its the crazy premium ones that make you stick ut. Look at this premium R6 headgear only available to season pass owners.

And that's not even the craziest one, there is one where the helmet is actually GOLDEN, as in shiny gold. And another character has one where the mask is filled with neon lights.

Meanwhile ANYONE can buy normal camo with the in game currency

It's a slav game, so we'll see a hundred different AK patterns before something like that.

>Makorov
>wif a drum mag

What the fuck?

ingame it is called a ppsh mag

From what I've seen, all of that is obtainable through gameplay. People who actually pay twice as much get a hard start. How much of a headstart on standard players though, im not sure.

>Name me a single game where camo skins are only purchasable with real money.

Planetside 2

It exists.
Not sure how viable it is really as an idea, but they make that.
I want to see the CZ75 ingame desu

Cosmetics in first person shooters can very seriously affect gameplay if visibility is an actual factor

pay2progress and pay2win, while not the same, are very similar

pay2progress in a pvp game is /NOT/ good game design

I really do want to see more western firearms. We've got two so far right? The AR and the P226?

Ahh nu

looks aight

guns take way too many shots to kill nerds

The Chiappa I guess, kinda.
I'd expect a Glock 17 or 19, just because they're a default choice in most of the world

M 1 9 1 1??

not yet, but they are planning on adding .40 S&W and 357 sig p226's.

I'd like that, but kinda doubt it

Probably not. The weapons require rights to use the likeness in-game. In Russia, it's apparently relatively easy to get a hold of those rights - Western companies like Colt and Armalite would sooner see you fucked in the ass then make a dime off their designs.

If I give you two rouble every week will you stop making these threads every day?

IIRC you only actually need to secure their permission to use their name or logo. Physically depicting the firearm as I understand it is fine

What?
The 1911 is in tons of videogames

Not like they're gonna help you hide since every uniform is bright red/blue/purple

Weapon customization looks terrible in both games and reality. Factory variants are all that matter you fucking stupid autists I hate you cunts.

>Unity 5
Hype levels contained.

You lose all your shit when you die and there's no proper insurance.

Also no mutants or anomalies, shit game.

MMO
Survival RPG with bad mechanics
Unimpressive AI
Far Cry 2 weapon degradation

>no proper insurance
What do you mean by this
>no mutants or anomalies
It's not STALKER, despite what some retards are saying

military babysitter

weapon customization

isn't this a contradiction? absolutely every single weapon is a "press right click then left click" machine gun derivative. how can that be customized?

It just had to be online only didn't it.

This MMO shit is cancer.

>multiplayer focused games
>same thread as yesterday
>gunporn but can lose it all in a few seconds
>not a singleplayer campaign going through russia tearing shit up with different factions, co-op optional and customisation that truly matters
>instead get an ARMA mod with shit customisation DUDE SO REEL!

never trust a ruski