Isn't it kind of fucking crazy how insanely huge Bloodborne has become? Considering the kind of game it is, it has built a huge following.
I never thought it would reach mainstream recognition as big as Dark Souls, but it honestly feels like it's up there now. The way it somehow managed to become "the PS4 game" even in mainstream circles is insane, lots of normies even know about this game. Did the goldface meme do this?
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why are you pretending to be surprised that a soul game is as popular as a souls game
It being a good game made by Jap devs who follow old-school principles of game design made it so.
>why are you pretending to be surprised that a soul game is as popular as a souls game.
Bloodborne is technically a new IP and an Playstation 4 exclusive.
Tons of people that know about Dark Souls don't even know Demon's exists. Demon's Souls never managed to crack the mainstream nut.
I thought it only had like 2 million something sales?
2.5 million physical copies were sold pre-TOH, which is pretty respectable. Yoshida was elated and From seemed pretty happy too, since they signed on to develop another pair of games with Sony Japan Studio.
>only 2 million
That's pretty good for any game
>barely breaks a million sales
>its the 50th game from a dev who has managed to be nobodies forever
>"insanely huge"
LOL
It only took CDPR 3 games to become a billion dollar company
>No HP bar as long as a 40 VIT one
>No 200 bullet capacity
>No foot prints in the floor guiding you to gate A
>No "optional mission: convince the cleric beast to leave"
user pls
I kinda want to try it but I feel it'd be a waste of money since I didn't really like DS3.
sony wanted the game be a real system seller
2 million is thoroughly mediocre
>insanely huge
>only every 25th PS4 user owns one game
That's due to CDPR being Visual Novels first and games later, in an age where games are being shunned in favor of interactive movies.
Don't. Regardless of the combat being faster, Bloodborne is as much of a Souls game as its predecessors; if you didn't like the concept itself then you aren't going to enjoy BB.
Not really. Bloodborne is like #FE, Fatal Frame 4 or Bayonetta 2: it wasn't intended to sell systems, but to improve the platform's overall videogame library.
Well, I kinda like DS3, but it's obvious that it's only the second worst game in soulsborne series, only beating DS2.
If you like the combat system and the basic idea, I would recommend trying first Dark Souls along with DeS and BB, which all are god-tier.
CDPR made a much better game than From ever has.
TW3 is longer than 3 From games combined, and is also better than 3 From games combined.
This is due to From being a lazy fuck company that rehashes shit almost as much as Neptunia.
>my opinions>your opinions
wew lad, amazing argument
>I would recommend trying first Dark Souls
I've put a good number of hours into Dark Souls, it's just DS3 I'm not keen on. I haven't played DS2 though, so I'm not sure how much of DS3 is a logical progression from it.
I'll just keep an eye out for a used copy.
My opinion is generally reverberated through the immense success of TW3 and the irrelevance of From games - as well as the fact that TW3 is generally more expensive to buy used on the same console because demand is higher for it.
So yes, you could say my opinions are better than yours. There's more supporting them.
I'm a different user, but...
>my game > your game LOL
This is what reading your posts feels like
It is a system seller though. Even on Sup Forums you never see anyone say ps4 has nogaems, they always say it has at least one game.
Granted I only played The Witcher 1, but it convinced me that The Witcher 2 and 3 aren't good games. The entire thing is the most tedious, unfun thing in the universe:
>You're in-universe a famous monster hunter, but in-game you're an errand Bitch boy
>The very core of the game is nothing but:
>Go to city A
>Talk to NPC B
>Go to house C
>Talk to NPC D
>Go to castle E
>Talk to NPC F
>Go to town G
>Talk to NPC H
>Go back to castle E
>If back in house C you gave NPC D the first reply, go back to city A and talk to NPC B again
>If back in house C you gave NPC D the second reply, talk to NPC G
>Now go to...
>The combat is garbage
I put 50 hours into that game, but there was a point where I was walking in a long, long boring meadow and my objective was
>Help with the preparations for a wedding
So I said "fuck this boring shit".
Meanwhile the Soulsborne games are actually fun to play. You fight, you explore, you defeat bosses, you develop your character. You're actually playing instead of just reading or watching.
From may be a small, insignificant company compared to CDProjekt, but their products are infinitely better.
Eh. I bought a PS4 to play BB so you can argue that it was a system seller for me.
For me it's the only Dark Souls game i'd consider buying. Didn't care much for DeS or DS1... But it's on PS4 and i'd rather have it on my PC instead...
>but their products are infinitely better.
Yeah, not really. Sorry about your small attention span, though. That's sad.
Its a great game but lets not kid ourselves here, it got a lot more popular than it would have been since it's the only game for ps4.
it's really not that popular, the only time I see it brought up is when people mention that they recently got a PS4 and want some exclusives/games to play on it which is a fairly straightforward scenario. and of course there's the shitposters but we won't talk about them because they don't matter. as far as the internet as a whole goes I see the Souls game brought up far more, maybe to the tune of three to four times more often? in videos or articles about the best video game worlds or the most difficult video games people almost always opt for Souls over BB and rightfully so imo. basically I almost always see BB brought up only when the PS4 is also largely relevant to the discussion.
I played Bloodborne last in the series and I enjoyed it about the same as DS3, maybe a little more because of the DLC which was super good. BB PvE is better but I like PvP a lot more in DS3. if you actually didn't like DS3 as opposed to maybe not enjoying it as much as DS1 or whatever then you probably won't like BB
the gameplay is different but not hugely different, most of the core gameplay is still the same i.e. stunlock and spam attacks until it's dead or bait out an attack, parry/dodge away and attack while it's recovering, repeat until it's dead. there's some unique stuff like rallying which promotes being aggressive and constantly on the attack but a lot of weapons suck at dealing with multiple enemies and later in the game and in deep chalice dungeons everything hits hard as fuck, enough to 2-3 shot you, so it's not a good idea to play that aggressively
I enjoyed TW3 more than BB but calling FromSoft bad is a fucking joke. if CDPR is the "best" video game developer then From are the second best, no competition. I hate seeing obnoxious shitposters like you because it just makes whatever you're defending look bad.
seconding, I own a few more exclusives but without BB I wouldn't have bought the console
>"if you don't like TW you have a small attention span"
In fact I'm an avid reader so my attention span is fine.
It's just that when I'm playing videogames I expect to play videogames, not going through walls of text narrating an uninteresting tale.
And yeah, they're better because they don't bore the player or force it to do tedious world walks.
>"insanely huge"
>can't even outsell it's own predecessor
>immense success
Call of Duty confirmed greatest video game series of all time
>more expensive
Nier confirmed better than TW3 because its still like 30 euros
Thats all you witcherfags have. Waifufagging, talking about sales and GOTY awards. If the game is indeed that amazing, why don't you defend it on its own merits?
Merits, which include a rushed bland main quest, ubisoft-tier open world, braindead quest design made for literal idiots, and combat so repetitive you see everything worthy of note in the first hour.
wew.
>Call of Duty confirmed greatest video game series of all time
There are like no CoD games that have as high a user rating as TW3.
Unironically, there are also no From games with that high a rating.
>make a thread about how From games blew up
>only thing proven is they've been blown the fuck out
lel
>Meanwhile the Soulsborne games are actually fun to play. You fight, you explore, you defeat bosses, you develop your character. You're actually playing instead of just reading or watching.
Witcherfags will actually try to refute this.
Enjoy what you want but pretending that W3 is a good "GAME" is total bullshit. Its a good experience but its not a good game.
CoD games probably collectively have a higher user rating than any From game because they are actually, in fact, better games.
It's ironic that From rides so hard on a shitty franchise called Souls, because their games like the devs have none.
Jap game from legendary director with great gameplay, atmospheric world and cryptic story. It would be weird if it didn't generate a following.
Too bad it's only 'following' are autistic weebs who play libraries of shitty games
>CoD games probably collectively have a higher user rating than any From game because they are actually, in fact, better games.
dumbest thing I've read today.
Well, I can recommend BB wholeheartedly.
It's probably the best of the souls games
Oh look, someone's trying to start a Witcher 3 thread again - the game that only gets attention when placed next to better games for comparison.
>TW3 literally outsold BB on its own system by about 5x
>Needing BB for comparison other than to show how much better it is
Your delusion is palpable
>calls people autistic weebs.
>is on Sup Forums
Sorry but I've got bad news user...
>muh sales
How about you defend the game by its own merits, instead of something so blatantly stupid?
If sales had any kind of showing of quality, CoD would in fact be the greatest series of all time.
>it wasn't intended to sell systems, but to improve the platform's overall videogame library.
Yeah because the system had (and continues to have) no other fucking games.
Well I already pointed out the fact that TW3s reception blows any From game out of the fucking water.
Face it, TW3 is already regarded as one of the best games ever made.
Fromshit isn't regarded as anything at all, because nobody cares about it.
Needed some arrow markers, map icons, and witcher vision
Bloodborne is being regarded as one of the best games ever made. If TW3 is also one of the best, then Skyrim is literally the greatest game of all time. You logic is that of a community college drop out with a failed MLG career.
MW3 came out 7 years after HL2
Everything has outsold Dark Souls
From has made 50 games
CDPR has made 3
From is only obscure because their games are shit
>Bloodborne is being regarded as one of the best games ever made
By one sad nerd posting from his mothers basement that nobody cares about.(much like his favorite game)
Bloodborne plays and looks better than ds3.
Ive play ds1, dropped 2 at the final boss, and dropped 3 halfway through, but ive played bb through 6 or so times with the dlc. If you like souls stuff generally, or a fast paced action game that looks pretty, bb is solid.
From didn't make shit. This is one man using a bad company as his puppet to make the games he wants to make. Why do you think Dark Souls 2 was shit, Dark Souls 3 was mediocre, and Lost Izalith was a fucking travesty?
>Well I already pointed out the fact that TW3s reception blows any From game out of the fucking water.
>Face it, TW3 is already regarded as one of the best games ever made.
I said, "its own merits", not critical acclaim or muh sales or muh goty awards
Thats all you fucks talk about anyway since the game itself is so mindnumbingly braindead that playing it once will be it. There isn't a single good reasoning for actually buying the game yourself either. If you wanted to experience the only things good about the game, you could do that completely free of charge on youtube.
But I guess having good gameplay in a video game is too much for this day and age where games made for braindead idiots like W3 thrive and get awards.
>Fromshit isn't regarded as anything at all, because nobody cares about it.
Dark Souls 1 is regarded as one of the best games ever made, shaped countless games and series and effected how people feel about difficulty in modern games.
All W3 did was shove good graphics into peoples eyeballs and make the player walk from point A to point B for 100 hours while friendly exposition man mumbles to the idiotic playerbase.
I bet you actually think witcher senses is good game design too.
I play games to play a fucking game, if i wanted to watch someones shitty rendition of tolkien mythology id watch jacksons tlotr trilogy.
Only 14 percent of people have beaten Ludwig, I;m guessing they are counting all players that have bought bloodborne.
A full third of people haven't even beaten the first boss.
The sales success of the game is only indicative of the marketing prowess of Sony. There's also the timing factor - BB came right after The Order 1987 and people wanted a mindless werewolf game.
Forget it man, it's impossible to have a discussion with witchercucks because they can only resort to muh dorito pope awards and muh IGN reviews since they know their games are dogshit with worse gameplay than even Skyrim
Speaking of which, Skyrim has sold more than the entire shitcher franchise put together so I guess it's objectively a better than the shitcher 3
Because its a fucking souls
It was the first souls on ps4
you logic points towards your love for Skyrim and other games that require no effort on the part of the player and are designed to sell tons of copies.
>Dark Souls 1 is regarded as one of the best games ever made
By one sad nerd living in his mothers basement, fueled on a meme difficulty level by a couple underage children who aren't even old enough to have played anything else since they're all consoleplebs that grew up on Kingdom Hearts.
Witcher is just waifu faggotry that shit is irresistible to the fat virgins.
I'm playing Dark Souls right now on PC (it's my first Souls game) to warm up before my PS4 arrives and can confirm it's a great game, I die a fucking lot tho, any tips?
As opposed to W3 where its hailed as a good game by people who legitimately hate good gameplay and braindead walking/talking simulators?
wooow, amazing
best game ever made
(you)
I have never played Skyrim past the part where you get the first shout. I tried it, but its just a bad game.
Keep projecting what a casual you are though, I guarantee you have more time in that shit than I do.
You don't have to be mad at me that nobody cares about shitty From games.
You should be mad at From for not making better games.
>its just a bad game
Better game than W3 though, since its actually a game instead of a walking simulator
Funny though, Skyrim has better RPG mechanics than W3 too :)
>le FAST akshun spoopy slashur gaem xD xD
I'll stick to the superior Souls game, thanks.
I genuinely don't care about Skyrim.
Both Skyrim and TW3 are better than anything From has ever made, though that doesn't say much at all.
Projekt Red Arguments: My game got goty from IGN, has 200 hours of quests, and sold more. Therefore, it's better.
From Arguments: My game has better gameplay, a direct and fully realized artistic vision that abides by and elaborates on the universal laws of aesthetic excellence, and superior art design, story (TW3 being a teenaged wet dream of cliches and stolen mythos), and music. Therefore, it's better.
Both sides are retarded, but TW3 fans should really stop trying to defend the meat of their game. TW3 has a huge world to explore and an easy to understand story that can go in a ton of different directions, but the music and art direction are bland and the gameplay is filler to get from one conversation to another.
W3 and Skyrim both pale in comparison to Souls/BB but you're a delusional faggot if you actually think Skyrim is better than W3. Literally nothing in Skyrim is superior to Witcher. This is demonstrably true.
Says the mad witchercuck still defending his waifushit game that everyone forgot in a month, but don't be sad maybe next time the polacks will make something better than empty open world Asscreed tier garbage
>can't even get 5 posts in without TW3fags
>W3 and Skyrim both pale in comparison to Souls/BB
nah
I genuinely can't believe someone could be baited this easily, please tell me it's just one guy samefagging because no one could be this gullible.
>the music and art direction are bland
It has one of the best soundtracks ever made and the artstyle is legitimately great. Some amazing screenshots out there.
The gameplay is also pretty enjoyable. Definitely faster than Dark Souls and immensely more stylish since it isn't animated by 5 year olds.
>sterile, genetically modified raspy super soldier with a heart of gold and a huge cock
vs.
>the player
>It has one of the best soundtracks ever made
>muh generic EPIC XD trash
no
By that logic, Final Fantasy XV had balanced, varied gameplay, and is a much better game than the Witcher 3.
And please don't claim TW3's soundtrack is one of the best. That's just silly.
Sorry, your opinion is just shit then.
There's nothing generic about Percival.
Bait but you hooked me.
Souls/BB has the best gameplay hands down. This isn't even up for debate. BB also probably has the best OST of the bunch.
Witcher has a decent story, interesting characters, a huge world to explore, fun dialogue.
Skyrim has...
...
...
...
Anyway, the Souls games are the clear-cut winner. Souls 2 and 3 were kinda shit but DS1 and BB stand tall above the others.
Well, no, because parrying and dodging actually matter in TW3 and you get a limited number of potions to heal yourself with.
You can heal yourself to an unlimited extent in FFXV. The world build in FFXV is also soulless as its characters.
Why do you h ave to be so wrong about everything.
not even bait, kiddo
You cannot name a single redeeming quality about Skyrim.
>bloodborne thread
>witcher shills start farting all around the place
PS4 sales stats from vgchartz:
>BB: 2.48 Million
>DS3: 1.64 Million
>DS2: 0.60 Million
Looks like it did
>BB is better than a game with absolutely no redeeming qualities
okay
Dark souls is only difficult because it doesn't tell you how things work. Look up how to create a quality built and how to upgrade weapons.
I loved how Bloodborne is a lot more straightforward in that regard.
>doesn't list the two best Souls games
Really forced me to consider the situation
>BB has the best soundtrack
>The others are generic
Yeah because nobody has ever heard boring orchestral music with screaming vocal synths before.
Truly groundbreaking. Wow.
Nice backpedal
>the city of your reading comprehension
I was only listing PS4 sales, not its predecessors
Solid Snake in the Prose Eda dumbed down for teens
Vs.
You in a blended up post-modern spin on Lovecraft lore
You're backpedaling and using pleb argument structure. Do you claim to have social anxiety in real life?
ty f.a.m.
Who would post a Witcher thread about anything other than who the best mannequin (girl) is
>ps4 stats
>comparing to a game that also exists on PC and Xbone
Not saying BB has an amazing OST, just that it's better than W3 or Shitrim.
>Souls/BB: Orchestral music with high-pitched vocals
>W3/Skyrim: Lord of the Rings remix
>dismiss an entire argument with no substance, only autistic rage
Not surprising coming from Soulsdrones.
Vocals aren't synths. Do some homework.
>here I'll prove to you that it DID outsell its predecessors!
>by giving you the sales figures for a game that came out AFTER Bloodborne and NOT listing the predecessor you were talking about!
Whoa...this is...the power of...shitposting...
I hope you aren't implying that From games are more well written than TW3.
You're just proving your crippling mental illness with that one. I have a friend who likes to talk about From game lore, he's in his 30s, ties his hair up like a girl despite being 270 lbs and a neckbearded loser who claims to want to be a magic girl like sailor moon.
It's unlikely that BB will outsell any of the souls games anyway, given the massive userbase on PC
You should download a DAW sometime, vocal synths are basic in any one of them. Frootyloops, Ableton, Reason.
You need serious help, more than your medication can give. Your mental retardation hurts anyone who has to deal with it.
But Dark Souls 2 came out before Bloodborne, famalam
bloodborne has a pretty disgustingly shit attach rate given how many PS4's have sold