PS4 powered by AMD

>PS4 powered by AMD
>Xbox One powered by AMD
>Switch powered by Nvidia

If Nvidia was so good then why doesn't every manufacturer use them.

Because AMD is cheap and so is Nintendo.

Nvidia jewed the companies that used them, that's why they switched to amd.

AMD is way cheaper compared to Nvidia you dumb fuck

>nvidia cost more
>wanting the more expensive thing instead of cheaper thing

But hey, not everyone is smart

the kind of SoC used in the Switch will be considerably cheaper than the PS4 Pro / Scorpio APUs

try reading the op again

AMD is a lot cheaper. The only reason Nintendo went for Nvidia is energy efficiency.

Go to business school you dumbfuck

AMD makes APUs.
Nvidia makes only graphics chips and Intels graphics chips are complete shit.

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>Nvidia makes only graphics chips
Nvidia makes ARM SoCs, which is what the Switch will use.

AMD is less expensive which means more profit. The last console that used Nvidia was original Xbox. It was the most powerful but also the most expensive and least profitable. Not good for a business.

The last console that used Nvidia was original Xbox.

Guess again.

>The last console that used Nvidia was original Xbox
the PS3 used a G70 derivative GPU though

nvidia jewed both microsoft then sony, next nintendo

Consoles are made to last at least 8 years.

Nvidia hardware is designed to cuck customers into buying new hardware every 1-2 years. Do the math.

because everybody wants an SOC/APU instead of separate GPU/CPUs now.

powerful, i.e., x86:
> Intel - prepare to get jewed
> AMD - will bid low, but you're probably gonna be getting Bobcat cores until Zen is released and a bit more mature
> Nvidia - no x86 license? still so salty, Jen-Hsun?

mobile/low power, i.e., ARM:
> Intel - ARM is contrary to x86 hegemony
> AMD - sold off mobile Imageon/Adreno division to Qualcomm in '09.
> Nvidia - why isn't anybody buying Shield? hey, you wanna buy some Tegras?
> (everybody else using PowerVR) - hey, look over here! no, over HERE!

>nintendo getting leftovers since the shield is garbage

>PS4 powered by AMD
>under performs on a large scale, including the pro model
>Xbox One powered by AMD
>under performs on a large scale, even worse than PS4
>Switch powered by Nvidia
>?????

They went with Nvidia because AMD has no ARM SoC.

>1Ghz shield tablet (undocked)
>768Mhz switch
>307Mhz undocked switch
lel

why did AMD never revive custom mobile designs?
even if Bobcat wasn't competitive with Atom in x86, ARM surely would have been an option.
would Zen+Vega be remotely viable in mobile?

>no official specs released yet

Huh

It's gonna be a rough nine days.

I don't care either way to be honest. If it's good then great, another system to add to my collection, if not then no big loss I still have plenty to play.

Because AMD makes SoCs, you can get a GPU and CPU combo from them instead of working with separate companies for both. It's just easier. Also AMD is cheap.
AMD doesn't have a mobile SoC with acceptable perf/watt which is far more important in battery and heat constrained systems so nintendo went with nvidia, there was likely a lot more competition in this choice than with the home consoles though as nvidia isn't really too different in quality from vendors like qualcomm, samsung or just slapping their own ARM cortex chip with a 3rd party GPU vendor like powerVR or Mali, but it's so much less effort to just get year old tech from nvidia, and nvidia probably cut them a good deal, samsung and qualcomm's top end chips are usually enormously expensive.

I Wish I went for the i7 instead of the FX 9590. How good will Zen be against the i7? Will the Zen be a noticebal improvement to the 9590?

Mainly referring to all the shitposting, not that it will ever go away.

made so much sense to go with amd over years of upgrades of pro/scorpio and beyond will be easier to transition than to get agreements with intel+nvidia

The Switch could be the most powerful platform of the generation and there would still be shitposting. This board is addicted to it.

We don't know for sure yet but AMD is claiming that core to core watt to watt performance will be able the same as haswell/broadwell, so a little behind the latest intel chips but by nowhere near as much and the single core performance improvements are the most important part, it will be a massive improvement over FX chips as long as they're telling the truth.

that fact that AMD is cheap shit is exactly the reason that sony and microsoft use it.

I don't know what nintendo's deal is. maybe they got a deal on some 9 year old shit that nvidia was planning to throw away anyway.

That would be nice if Intel's tech was actually impressive.
Mobile hardware makes bigger improvements every year than Intel has made in the last 7.

is scorpio going to use Zen+Vega SoC?

Performance wise Nvidia is the best in the arm market, they blow the ever loving fuck out of every other SoC producer. But they don't have any patents or skill for things like modems and the like so Qualcomm monopolizes the market despite being one of the worst performers.

Nvidia has been desperate for over a decade to get a foothold in the APU space, and they were 10,000% anal-devastated when they were repeatedly denied an x86 license.

Their 2011 lawsuit verdict got them a $1.5B payout over 6 years, but Intel's switching over to paying AMD for protection patents moving forward.

Tegra is used in some designs, but honestly PowerVR and even Mali slaughter them in sales, and ARM APUs have no prayer in enterprise/HPC, so they're hunting for scraps with deals like this one with Nintendo.

AMD isn't capable of producing ARM chips as efficient as anything close to Tegra. Actually I think AMD only started making ARM chips last year. x86 wasn't going to work for a handheld.

>If Nvidia was so good then why doesn't every manufacturer use them.
That was the case last generation retard.
Nvidia was in both the 360, and the PS3.
Only Nintendo sued AMD, for the GC and the Wii.

This generation it's the other way around because AMD got desprate and undercut nvidia HARDCORE to get both CPU AND GPU inside each console to make money.

I guess Nintendo didn't went iwth AMD this time because they had other plans where AMDs tech didn't quite fit in comapred to Nvidias Tegra mobile trash

Nvidia was NOT in 360. That is what killed backwards compatibility. Nvidia was shitty business partner to MS during OG Xbox era and then did the same to Sony with PS3. I hope they learned their lesson for Nintendo.

Console brands just want the cheapest. That's why they go with AMD. Nintendo went with NVIDIA for portability of their Tegra chip because they're making a handheld.

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It's 1GHz docked and undocked.

You're talking about the GPU's clock, idiot.

Mobile CPUs don't actually make very big improvements every year.
You get fooled into thinking they're doing something because they keep adding cores when they can't think of any other ways to improve performance.
Single core performance stalled in 2013 with the cortex A15, Krait and apple A7 and only recently improved with the cortex A72, kryo and apple's A9.
All these CPUs released within about a year of each other toward the end of 2015 and early 2016 so it took them about 2 and a half years to make any actual architectural improvements.
You are however correct that mobile CPUs are improving faster than intel's though

AMD was the only option that could provide both an x86 CPU and a quality GPU.

Your only other choice to use the same supplier for both is Intel and their graphics technology is so bad they just licensed AMDs for future chips.

Zen will close the gap, but it still has a-ways to go.

shit i meant to post this graph with that.

>Apple drops PowerPC in 2006
>Sony and Microsoft drop PowerPC in 2013
poor IBM :'(

It's a shame that Intel Atom BTFO Tegra chips. Nintendo made the wrong choice.

That's what happens when people stopped using IBM's shit in the 90's and started to build their own computer.

You know, I wonder what is the most powerful ARM system-on-chip right now?

Intel is way out of Nintendo's price range and also not ARM

Apple A10 by far

Nvidia also has an in-house cpu design. It's theoretically capable of x86 an x64, but nvidia obviously has no license.

GPD Win is only 350 dollars, and they're a Kickstarter.

Atom CPUs are actually behind cortex A57 in ARM optimized workflows and cortex A57 is old tech.

Nvidia getting a x86 license anytime soon is even more impossible that their patent agreement to allow Intel to make their integrated GPUs is expiring in march and all signs point to Intel just paying for AMDs patent coverage.

Their is no future in Intel mobile solutions. Intel is leaving the market and Microsoft is focusing on emulation for ARM chips. ARM is the only solution that makes sense and Nvidia makes really good ARM chips along with supplying the graphics solution.

>and Nvidia makes really good ARM chips
When they feel like it.
The X1 just had a standard cortex A57

fuck off applefag

Only because their Denver 2 cores weren't ready.
Plus nothing wrong with standard stuff, the latest Kirin SoC with regular A73s performs better than both Qualcomm's and Samsung's custom in house CPU cores.

Because it's completely outdated, genius.

A73s are late 2016 tech.
Qualcomm and samsung stuff was built for release in late 2015 and early 2016 shortly after A72.
And yeah the standard stuff is fine but I wouldn't call it Nvidia's work.

Because they would have to include a fire extinguisher with every console sold

Apple SoCs are genuinely powerful especially their tablet stuff.
Android tablets almost exclusively use unaltered phone SoCs nowadays but apple will boost CPU clocks and GPU cores to compensate for the resolution and battery bump.

EXPERIENCE TRANQUILITY

THIS.

Many companies that worked with nvidya in the past got burnt badly. Microsoft and nvidya once even had lawsuits against each other during the xbox days. Tho they buried the hatchet to look good... then microsoft switched to amd after the xbox.

Nvidya has a history of fucking over companies that use it. Not to mention that fuck over their retarded fanboys all the time.

Do I go with Nvidia or AMD?
Money isn't a problem

because Nintendo doesn't want x86 (AMD) or to use Qualcomm or some other third party that might flake

Nvidia is the only big source that can provide proprietary chips to them to prevent homebrew/hacking etc from taking place

Otherwise they'd be shopping for other phone processors that'd be easily hacked or such

Also which everyone ignored

>using old outdated SoC already before release
>PS4s already outdat

The kirin SoC leverages gpu performance for more CPU cores.
Each core is comparable to a snapdragon 820's, there's just more of them.
It's a fine compromise though, android doesn't really have any GPU intensive games and the kind of phones that are likely to have a kirin put into them usually have 1080p screens so their performance ends up comparable to sd820 phones with their stupid 1440p screens.

what are you gonna with all that power on your iphone 7?

Play angry birds and make phone calls?

"proprietary chips" don' achieve shit when it comes to anti-piracy and you know it.

>because Nintendo doesn't want x86 (AMD)

AMD actually also holds the patent for x64. Tho AMD has a agreement with Intel so they can use x64 as well.

Nvidya will either have to pay a fee to AMD to use x64 or they will just go with x86.

>tfw not a top level senior cpr engr that oversees these projects and gets to name them all

Kirin is such a boss codename; its the king of fucking horses

>Nvidia is the only big source that can provide proprietary chips to them to prevent homebrew/hacking etc from taking place

You're talking our of your arse.

In recent years CPU performance advances have been most helpful in battery life bizarrely.
As perf/watt goes up the amount of CPU load needed to drive web pages and video decode reduces so the device uses less power while doing the same tasks.
Other than that i'm afraid I can't say there's a point.

>THATSTHEJOKE.jpg

>this post

so in other words... all that power on the iphone will be used for watching youtube videos...

man do I really need to use """"""quotes"""" when I talk about Nintendo's logic at sourcing their hardware and talking about their firmware decisions?

The only reason Nintendo is using nvidia for the switch is that they're just plain better at mobile. Amd APUs are pretty shit, and they're meant for laptops, the switch would be a fucking portable grill if they tried to use one in it

If Mercedes is so good, why doesnt everyone drive one?

Yep, Though playing video isn't as easy as you'd think.
In 2013 youtube change their encoding system to a more powerful compression and it made a lot of smart TV and even some older phones completely incapable of playing video or HD video they were able to decode before.
My phone can handle it because it had a snapdragon 800 but it does get hot when playing videos now.

>The only reason Nintendo is using nvidia for the switch is that they're just plain better at mobile

Doubt it. I bet nvidya just offered them a better deal in pricing.

Nvidya's Shield is a sinking ship, so nvidiya thought they can get rid of them for cheap by using the material to make nintendo's Switch. So instead of keeping the sinking ship, they might as well give a better offer than AMD to make the Nintendo Switch.

>nvidiya
Why do you keep spelling it like that?
It doesn't seem to be an insult, is it a regional branding?

because that's how you pronounce their brand name.