The Binding of Issac

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ONLY A FEW HOURS BEFORE AFTERBIRTH + COMES OUT, WHO'S READY?

HOW IS EVERYONE WHO'S PLAYING ON ANTIBIRTH ENJOYING IT SO FAR?

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Fuck you and Fuck Edmund

>Mfw Turbo!
Btw, how far is it to the end? Mom? Mom's Heart?

The ride ends at Mom

Antibirth is okay, but it crashes far too fucking much. Pretty disappointing to enter, say, a treasure or curse room for it to only crash, or to get to the Witness as Bethany, and have it crash, or that one fucking challenge that crashes.

Still, like the new characters, Jacob & Esau are interesting to play as.

Okay, cool. Thanks.

Woops, forgot the link to the storepage for +

store.steampowered.com/app/570660/

Jacob and Esau are a good concept that I like, but fuck I suck at playing as them

I haven't played antibirth yet cause I'm still working on the fucking keeper

Hopefully they port it to AB+ sooner than later

I'm going to enjoy both antibirth and afterbirth+ and there's nothing you can do to stop me

can you play both at the same time?

Not at the same time but you can alternate between them with 0 issue. Think of it as splitting your game.

Well, I ended beating Mom in about 5 seconds because I had a really strong build (guppy and huge damage), although now that I'm trying to play normally it feels weird and slow now.
Fuck.

It will be only 5 moolah cheaper than Rebirth again, won't it?

>but fuck I suck at playing as them
Can't offer much real advice sorry m8, but Esau has generally better offense than Jacob, and if you don't know, can hold CTRL to move Jacob only, if you need to, say, regroup.

Couple of things too, don't pick up Libra or the goat hoof trinket because it can break the shared speed stat, get Birth Right ASAP, so passive items are duplicated for both and hope it doesn't crash the game.

>First floor as Cain
>3 tinted rocks and a stone chest right next to one of them
>Zero bombs
>Not even any in the shop
>oh, but here's THREE FUCKING KEYS :::^^^)))

Bethany is my favorite. It's like usually most of the items are unusable garbage because they take so long to charge for what they do but since you can supplement charges with spirit hearts I'm finally able to use active items instead of being afraid I'll waste it for the floor.

In rooms with two items you can pick up both items if you line them up well.

The addition of the charge machine was great for usable items too, especially the overcharge.

I will never not be mad that edmund ruined isaac with afterbirth so fucking much

how can you honestly think catering the game to """"pro streamers""""" was worthwhile to anyone

>Double Item Rooms get shit like Isaac's Heart and Rock Bombs
>Take neither

Rock Bombs kill me more than help me out 99% of the time

>Greed hard mode

Okay. When the boss itself is already a damage sponge that scales with your damage similar to Hush, making it harder probably means it's even more tedious than before. Maybe the greed machine will break EVEN MORE OFTEN. BECAUSE THAT'S FUN.

I also can't wait for Edmund to nerf all the fun items and characters YET AGAIN.

IN A SINGLE FUCKING PLAYER GAME, EDMUND YOU FUCKSTICK

STOP IT

How much is + gonna be? Also dumb questions but I just started looking at the modding scene/antibirth; how do achievements function if you install the mods?

>how can you honestly think catering the game to """"pro streamers""""" was worthwhile to anyone

Explain how he did this?

Reminder that the most anti-fun character was made by Edmund and e actually got mad it got discovered "too soon". I'm still mad af.
You can't be more stupid.
But the game is gr8, so idk

won against the witness with the lost earlier

SERIOUSLY, WHO THE FUCK ASKED FOR GREED HARD MODE

GREED MODE IS ALREADY HARD MODE
IT'S NOT FUN
GREED MODE IS FUCKING TERRIBLE
IT'S LESS FUN THAN MOST OF THE CHALLENGES

AND YOU SERIOUSLY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EVEN MORE FUCKING TEDIOUS?

wouldn't call 14 hours "a few"

nice
epic
i like it

You can't justify it in any way except "being a bandwagoning faggot."
Also, the Trinkets really exemplify the downward spiral of Isaac.

I didn't like afterbirth but I'm probably still going to buy ab+

>I also can't wait for Edmund to nerf all the fun items and characters YET AGAIN.
He's already nerfed that Void item, IIRC when he first posted about it he said it was a 4-charge item, but a screenshot on the steam page for AB+ shows it's already been nerfed to a 6-charge item.

I think + is gonna be $10 or so, but it'll be $6.66 for the first week it comes out if you already have AB.
As for modded cheevos, I think they still work with Antibirth, although you'll only get Rebirth cheevos (obviously).

I don't think ed realizes this game gets more shit the more items you add into it

it just makes runs more and more difficult getting bhogged down with completely worthless shit

>blister
>second hand
>bad

Whoever made this is a fucking retard.

I kinda hate the Perfect trinket.

>Added Knockback
Mediocre.
>Petrify/Charm/etc. except Poison duration
Not very worthwhile compared to many Trinkets.
But I suppose since they aren't outright detrimental/worthless, they can be bumped up.

Also fite me.

>ONLY A FEW HOURS BEFORE AFTERBIRTH +
why isn't there a steam page for it yet?

What does the fat worm at the bottom do

It really depends on what kind of items are added. A good half of them will no doubt be shit. Thankfully it'll be even easier to just delete all the excess junk from the itempools now, even though it was always possible.

It's weird to me how he seems to design items. He declares how it looks, how many charges it has, how powerful it is etc without even playtesting it first.

It's unlisted from Rebirth, but it's up.

Greed Mode is fun but Ultra Greed should be nerfed a bit if now we get even harder Greed Mode.

I seriously hope the official devs balance Antibirth before adding it to the game. Jacob & Esau are really horrible to play - even less fun than The Lost or Keeper.

shots turn 90 degrees to hit enemies if you miss

>Brain Worm
If your shots go wide of an enemy, they will turn 90 degrees towards the enemy, with some minor variance, for a 2nd chance to hit.

Afterbirth+ will be releasing before 2:00 P.M. U.S. Central time.

Why user?
It's one of the best trinkets. If you have a good tear status effect, you're unstoppable.

Speaking of Trinkets,
>We're getting another Worm
>It's just a color invert and flip along a diagonal line of the Ring Worm and probably just gonna make your Tears loop in the opposite direction

Isn't the the jawbreaker basically just a free tough luck? How is that mediocre?

Exactly because of that. It makes it too easy, especially with the guaranteed drop rate.

Really low trigger rate.
Like half of Tough Love.

>I seriously hope the official devs balance Antibirth before adding it to the game
They'll ignore all the fun shit and just nuke the fun items and combinations.

>they'll ignore all the fun shit
Fucking don't mind my retard, I mean they'll ignore the bad shit that needs a balance

>"fun" combinations

Like, seriously, some things are way too broken. I don't like having the game handed to me all the time.

Ed has pretty much stopped caring hasn't he?

If Anti gets added to AB+ officially and they touch Divine Sword + Mom's Knife, I will gut a trout.

its tricky to balance a game like issac where there is a fine line between "fun item combos all the time" and "literally no damage ups the whole run". There isn't one way to do it (I'm not saying ed knows whats hes doing), usually rng fests like issac have characters and items that differ from the average by being more op/trash and thats ok.

Oh, for some reason I thought it was basically identical.
I still think it's better than mediocre though, especially considering the power level of most trinkets.

The Antibirth devs have explicitly stated that if they're going to port it to AB+, they want to make sure that they do it themselves. At most, nicalis and Ed will probably just help, but will not touch anything.

Stop going for the worst case scenario always.

Well no, I don't either, but Edmund will fucking nerf it too hard.

What time does it relase

Soon™

I've debated it, but with 0/1 Luck, it triggers excessively rarely. It doesn't hurt you and rarely gives you an X3.2 damage hit, so it's not bad, but it's just too rare for me to subjectively rate it "good."
Compared to most of the other Anti Trinkets, it's really mediocre.
I've also gotten complaints of Chewed Pen, but that also has a really low trigger rate and doesn't kill shit faster, only makes enemies slower, but not their attack rates nor attacks.

Okay.

Must I put it in big bold?

I realized that 'M is good for cycling your active item until you get something you like, at which point you can drop 'M.

Chewed Pen is really the only mediocre antibirth trinket because it's just an occasional slow tear.

hell yea!! cant wait to pay money for mod tools!

Lighter is pretty bland, even if it's free damage, it's a pittance unless it's random trash in Basement/Downpour.

The best way to do it would be to actually encourage item synergies and combos instead of continuously adding terrible items, but in order to still keep a challenge buff the regular game enemies as compensation. That's basically what antibirth did and it's the best "expansion" since wotl.
Of course, making all the regular areas hard would require making new harder enemies with unique and difficult movesets, giving bosses more attacks and more patterns, and adding new areas and bosses altogether. And "unique" is a word that has seemed to have slipped edmunds vocabulary. Why try when you can make 5 new shot speed up items and call it a day?

Does 20/20 work with tech 2 as Cain?

I realized I have yet to finish the Speed and Guardian challenges.

I really dislike them.

Uh don't be a fag
I just logged on

I want to know the exact time or I don't give a fuck

What DANK MEME REFERENCES do you think will be in this expansion?
Think they will slip some undertale in there?

20/20 overrides Cain's one-eye thing, so probably.

Don't forget: AB+ is adding 27 new Trinkets, which he's already shown he's creatively bankrupt at from the hot mess that is Afterbirth's Trinket set.
We've seen what 2 of them do (Shops and Treasure Rooms in Womb,) we've also seen but not what it does.
That said, my expectations aren't high and I'm probably gonna gut the Trinket pool just so I don't get shit like Umbilical Cord.

I won Guardian with some really like reroll.

Speed on the other hand ............ I still have nightmares about that challenge.

Cain still shoots 2 tears with 20/20 anyways

I think I saw a pokemon Go reference in one of the updates and that's about it.

Man, Isaac is a pretty old game and it shows, with all the troll faces and shoop da woop old memes

Nope, it did jack shit.
Even worse is that I had to give up blood of the martyr for it.

The "Exact" time is before 2:00 P.M. U.S. Central time.
Steakmund Tweeted that it would be out 16 hours from his Tweet.
twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/816128988246441985
It was at 7:48 P.M. U.S. Central
So between 1:48 and 2:00 P.M. U.S. Central is the closest we can get. It certainly won't be before.

Poke Go is an item that makes the FIRST room you enter with enemies have a CHANCE that an enemy will be charmed.

>play one of the challenges
>beat it
>unlocks nothing
>didn't even get crossed out
>read that it's bugged
>also cannot unlock bloody mary challenge because apparently it's only me in this world and the mod is fucked as shit

Do keep in mind that those were already old by the time he put them in, especially shoop da woop. trollface was falling out of vogue with Sup Forums and in vogue with reddit though, so that's more timely.

Is it just me or is the music in rebirth kinda avarage? i was so surprised when I heard how good the antibirth soundtrack is you can feel all the passion the guy put behind it and it even me nostalgic for the original issac's somehow.

Maybe I just got tired of the new soundtrack and wanted something new.

In other news, the final soundtrack has dropped

ridiculon.bandcamp.com/album/the-binding-of-isaac-afterbirth-ost-2

No, it has a chance to spawn a friendly enemy. The enemy picked is one at random from a set (probably most commonly worms or dips). I think I remember hearing it also has a chance to work on any room with combat.

>4 songs

lol

lik this if u cry evry tim

I mean, to be fair, what more is needed? There is literally only one more floor being added

The music guy for Anti has been an aspirant to have music similar to Danny Baranowsky, the guy who did original Isaac.

What really sets my autism off is fucking Rules Card. At least with the pills there's tension there: Will this pill help me or hurt me? Do I use it now or after this boss fight, or even at all? But with Rules card you know what it is, as in fucking nothing. And I doubt that the vague advice it gave actually helped any player who played the game since they would have already known what it was telling them or not understood it, and then it's stuck in your game forever in place of shit that actually does something, anything that makes a difference.

Why is shit like this in the game?

cool now I don't have to buy it

They should fire the music guy for Afterbirth already and hire Mudeth.

I find the rules Card cute. Fuck you.

Not him, but always take the item you feel is safest
>playing azazel on antibirth
>ludovico on first room
>"well, this run is already over"
>continue on to mines II
>item room has moms knife and some other okay item, common cold I think
>don't really know how moms knife will react
>know that the other item will be somewhat helpful but not as powerful

>take moms knife
>now have a floating knife, nice
>just remember that I took like 2 shot speed down pills accidentally earlier in downpour
>slowest knife in the world
>next boss is that faggot on the minecart
>literally impossible to damage him

Chub dislikes smoke got old in December 2014 dude.

>Will this pill help me or hurt me?
9/10 times it's shit because there's a shitload of negative pills and a shitload of """"Neutral"""" pills tainting the pool, so even if you have PHD you're still liable to get garbage.

1 for the new floor, 1 for the boss, and 1 for the new ending cinematic + random bonus

>Lazy worm
>Bad

It's amazing if you have Tech X tough

If you use rules card while having blank card it teleports you to a glitch room

>Terminus blank
Cryptic, not bad.
>Delirium
Basic Boss Theme with Guitar, Keys, and Drums backing up and cycling it.
>Sepulcrum
Well, that's disconcerting.
>Ante Lucem
Bleh.