The switch will be $150 at most

the switch will be $150 at most

there's no way they'll be able to get away with charging 599 US DOLLARS for a 720p tablet

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The things it's a straight ripoff of cost around that, so I think you're right.

>$599

I love pokemon but not that much. I'm sure it will be around $300.

Around 199 + 50 nintendo tax.
I mean, this thing is quite literally TWO generations behind in terms of power. It can not cost more than 250.

>there's no way they'll be able to get away with charging 599 US DOLLARS for a 720p tablet
If Apple can do it.

its all but confirmed for $250

No game company would get away with a $599 console in this economy period.

ipads are $300 with 2k screens

yes, I'll screencap your post so when the price is announced I'll laugh at your dumb ass cos there's no way it's only gonna be $150.

>there's no way they'll be able to get away with charging 599 US DOLLARS for a 720p tablet
Have you ever seen a Nintendo fan? They absolutely will. This piece of shit shouldn't be more than $150, but it will be and Nintoddlers will line up in waves to buy it with their allowance.

>ITS NOT PASCAL
Neither is the ps4 you fuck

Also its a handheld

Stop being retarded

Theres no competition so whos generations ahead?

>Also its a handheld
not him, but they definitely are marketing it as a home console

How long will it take for the iPad to out-muscle the Switch in terms of 3D game performance?

>nVidia Tegra
>150$

lol

>>ITS NOT PASCAL
>Neither is the ps4 you fuck

what? fucking what?

599 no. but im thinking something like 299.

About that user bringing up PS4 or the fact that PS4 doesn't have top of the line hardware either?Nor does the Pro.

OP sucks dicks for a living.

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Yea but Pascal is nvidia arch, PS4 has no nvidia parts in it.

and yet it actually happened with a sony console and sonyggers actually bought it and defended it.

>like two promotional videos so far
>80% of the time they showcase people playing it outdoors

????

I would actually consider a day one buy for 150 assuming it launches with some good games other than some shitty delayed Zelda (which I will pirate for my Wii U instead). Most likely, it's going to cost 300 bucks + 60 for a game. And considering this shit launches in like 2.5 months, and there is literally no hype about it or the games anywhere, I assume it has nothing other than the aforementioned Zelda.

According to the leaks, when you play undocked it underclocks the chipset massively to save power. Will they optimize games to run in portable or docked mode? Devs will most likely target docked specs so enjoy having piss poor framerates and overheat while outdoors, this is a home console that you can bring outside.

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see, you even said it yourself. they DID market it as a home console as well

i bought a shield k1 for $199 a year ago, and that comes with a 1920x1200 screen.
$150 is not unrealistic but it's nintendo and they're notorious jews so it won't happen.

So you're focusing on semantics. Pretty sure user meant it's not like PS4 Pro has an Arctic Islands based GPU in it, or even a Caribbean Islands based GPU for that matter.

>Go on jimmy fallon
>Show him playing it in handheld form

Wew

Nintendo are lying to us guys

>Trailer
>Shows them undock and play handheld

WHY WONT THEY STOP LYING

It will be around 200-250. It has to compete with the not-pro Ps4 which will be around that price when Switch releases.

i have never seen someone mis understand what the switch is outside of Sup Forums

its the total opposite situation of the wii u

or maybe... just maybe... they're marketing it as both a home console and a tablet... whoa... bet you didn't think of that...

$250
And it will sell like hotcakes due all "the brand new games" like Splatoon, mario kart 8, Smash 4 and all the other games casuals didn't knew existed because they didn't knew WiiU was anything more than a Wii accessory.

But this will lead nintendo to try again the strategy on the next generation, only to fail horribly.

Uh excuse me sir. Can you play freaking ZELDA on that thing? No? Then it's not a rip off.

see you fucking retard

>Will they
>Devs will most likely
I'm sorry, what do your suppositions have to do with anything?
Be pedantic all you want, we both know you are wrong.

>The switch isnt current gen hardware
>The ps4 isnt current gen hardware
>The xbox one isnt current gen hardware

Wew glad we cleared that up

you can emulate pretty much every zelda game on that thing

That's not news when talking about nintendo.
Pretty much 70% of the "nintendo innovations" are copies of stuff milton bradley did, but as nintendo also has games, it is still alive, while Milton Bradley is just a skin for mattel to sell overpriced board games.

it has GCN based GPU, is it GCN 3 or 4, I don't know but both of this are top of the line archs for AMD

>Arctic Islands
Who the fuck calls AMD cards by their code names?

But can you emulate The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild™ on it?

that game isn't out yet, you moron, but yea, wii u emulation is getting there

Why bother with a 1080p screen when the only thing the piece of shit can run at native resolution are 2D games that rarely ever use 1080p assets and android trashware made to run low end phones??

Same with the Switch desu, the thing will struggle to run titles at 1080p resolution when docked, doubt we will be seeing a lot of them. Console quality titles rendered at 1080p resolution on portable mode are a fucking pipe dream, that's simply not happening. It won't be happening even in the best case scenario for the switch unless they want to sell hand grenades with shorter battery duration than the average grenade's fuse.

Yeah Wii U emulation, not Switch emulation. That thing will be useless to me when the Wii U is dead.

name one switch game that isn't a port

Why would I screencap inconsistent ramblings?

depends on the OS Swtch is using, if it's Android based then it's already there, if it's linux based then it's already there.

A person who only has cursory knowledge of AMD and assumes that's what is done since people call Nvidia cards by their code names rather than the series number. Anyway, no one really knows because Sony never actually said anything other than the GPU was better. As far as I've seen no one has ripped it open to actually compare it to current AMD architecture either.

Ask me that again after January 12th when that info is revealed.

>It has to compete with the not-pro Ps4

Nintendo games will run at 1080p/60 fps.
But mostly because they will recycle the WiiU engine but slap bigger textures that are basically free in terms of processing as long the memory can handle it.

>TWO generations behind
>in terms of power

When will this fucking meme end?

The generations have nothing to do with power.

Super mario mexico.

They are not marketing it at all yet, you surly highway bridge hobo.

About the same time as nintendrones fuck off and stop this garbage hype cycles of shit consoles that are always dead last.

Its underpowered for last-gen, he's right, its literally two generations behind.

It will be a custom nintendo jobbie, just like they did on all their other systems with an OS.
And it will take 2 months to get pwned via the web browser.

You're an idiot.

MH5
Bayo3
DMC5

Screencap this fucking shit and watch the tears flow in 9 days.

The PS4 pro is shit that only neogaf fanboys care.
Most of the PS4 audience will just aim at the cheapest easiest way to get to the newest CoD/BF.
The PSN is a much bigger threat toi the

You're making literally no sense.

Switch than the graphical power of the PS4.

no u

Some Monster Hunter game is definitely happening. Iffy on the other 2, but anyone who thinks Capcom isn't going to stick to MH on handhelds is fucking retarded.

>Switch
>Competing with any form of PS4.

I love how you nintendrones jumped on pro, nah nigga, it ain't even gonna compete with standard.

You're making literally no sense.

>people geuinely believe the Switch has to "compete" with the PS4

Really gets the old gears grinding.

The pro will have to defeat the standard PS4 first, and this will prove to be too much for it.
The cheapest path to the PSN will always win, which is why the switch will not be able to go head on against it as well, due well, switch having no access to the PSN.

Well played.

>monhun 5
do you real think it will be 5 out the gate?

>Switch
>Competing with PS4

kek

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Definitely. The 3DS stopped printing money for capcom because of piracy, but the userbase is larger than ever so they'll want to capitalize on that ASAP. They also know they can't get away with a side or spin-off title because we just literally had 3 of those.

>i didn't read the text so i will just assume nintendrone, when the post points exactly why the Switch can't compete with it.

Nintendo is retarded that's why they don't know that they won't get away with it. In fact they won't even get away with making another gimmick console, but do you think they care? They doubled down on the road to failure and this will be the last nintendo console ever.

Why wont Nintendo just stop fucking around and release an ACTUAL console? They haven't done that since the 64. The Gamecube used meme disks that held it back, the Wii used horrible hardware which held it back, the Wii U suffered from lacking hardware and the shittiest controller known to man, and now the Switch is intentionally holding itself back in like 10 different ways.

Why not just create a fucking system? Why do they have to keep creating these shitty ass toys? Even if their motto is to cater to casuals and kids, you still end up with households that are moderate enough to drop money on a Modern videogame console nowadays buying the other two consoles simply because parents today that would shell out that kind of money are gamers themselves and I have multiple real life examples of this being the obvious truth; so most kids' first memories of videogames aren't going to be with Nintendo, it's going to be with Sony, or maybe Microsoft, and almost never going to be Nintendo. Not in America, not anymore.

the wii will be $150 at most

there's no way they'll be able to get away with charging 599 US DOLLARS for a 480p console

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the wii came out 50 years ago

aye, aye, captain

Not sure myself. If I were to wager a guess I'd say it'd just be a port of XX (Double Cross). The 3DS Monster Hunter games actually had some nice texturing that was completely muddied by the low resolution and weak hardware (new 3DS mitigated this somewhat with 4 and X/Generations).

>The Gamecube used meme disks that held it back

do you have some kind of mental impairment

>The pro will have to defeat the standard PS4 first, and this

It seems to me your mistaken

Unlike what Nintendo is doing ditching Wii u and focusing on switch

The pro is meant to be a supplement upgrade to standard PS4 and live alongside with it as Sony and other game devs will continue to support both.

Sony have captured the 360 audience and have sold 50 million units in 3 years, the switch won't be able to compete.

The only thing nintendo will be killing is the Vita

Say what you will, the disks had a bottlneck, and though the inner workings were streamlined and efficient, they were still an obvious setback. To deny this is to deny the very foundation of all we know to be true.

Mastery of an 8/10 still isn't as good as being good at a 10/10.

Because they could not make one in time to compete with the PS4 and can't into online.

Basically, you have a very narrow window where you get the players into your online server and they get stuck there and thats it, you won, and this window is gone.
So neither nintendo not microsoft can win the regular console game, even if they deliver a box that is several times more powerful than the PS4.

>the disks had a bottlneck

What fucking bottleneck? Your post is absolute gibberish.

You do realize both GTA3 and Vice City could have fit on a single Gamecube disk right? The PC version of both is 1.5 GB.

I think you misunderstand the power of... well, power. If someone released something that was "obviously" more powerful than either of the consoles, then people would flock to it. The initial qualm of having an empty fanbase would be quashed because EVERYONE would be going to that console.

The only other factor other than power is price. If you can do both, you win.

>The generations have nothing to do with power

Sony pony here, to be fair this user has a point. Now you may all be thinking "yeah, convienently stated after the wii is a thing" but was the original gameboy bot always under powered compared to its competition? There were full colour displays to rival it, and yet...

Why would you want Nintendo to try to do a sub-PC?

Yes yes yes, the PS4 pro is not exactly really competing with the PS4 as they share the same games etc.. but the point is that its not the power that makes PS4 sell, but the fact the PSN online servers are the most populated.

The casual wanting to play CoD will play CoD on the box that all his friends are, which in the case is the PS4.

Even if nintendo cancel switch, come up with a game console at $200 that use a quad 1080p geforce with 64GB of EDRAM and a top end octacore intel chip, PS4 will still defeat it due the PSN factor.

Ever finished an AssCreed game and had to sit through the 45 minutes of credits? That's what modern high graphical fidelity development takes, and all those people have to be paid competitive wages.

This is why so many studios have died in the past decades, why so many studios have been folded in to the big publishers, why games are so safe and casualized these days, why every other game is a lazy retouch with slightly bigger textures. The stakes are just too high for niche development and risks.

Nintendo is in it for the long haul. They saw this shit coming a mile away and ever since the Wii they've been looking for ways to keep budgets low and sustainable.

And games like Grand Turismo for the PS2 were 8 fucking Gigs, what's your point nigger?

Simply because they never needed to exceed a window doesn't mean that others weren't exceeding it.

_dolan

>ps3, 360 and wii u are around 0.3 teraflops
>ps4 and xbone are around 1.5 teraflops
>xbox scorpio and ps4 pro are around 4 teraflops
>switch is around 0.4 teraflops

so, yeah, literally 7th gen hardware.

I bet if the Xbone was 300$, PS4 would be completely demolished by it, day one.

I thought we confirmed that flops are just a word and don't count for shit that matters, including frame rate, graphical intensity, or game size?

xbox isn't a thing outside of america

I had no idea xbox existed before I discovered Sup Forums

It being only 100 buckerinos cheaper caused the PS4 to suffer a lot at first. When the consoles were first released, the Xbone was actually doing very well.

Then it suffered from Wii U Syndrome, no games, and everyone went to the PS4 anyway.

>but the fact the PSN online servers are the most populated.

That actually only matters if people pick up games to play online. Most people do not.
As a matter of fact, the biggest reason they're selling for shit and sales are in the toilet across the board for everything is the insane boner they have for being a cheap as fuck always online pc and their obvious attempts to eliminated local co-op and push online co-op in it's place.

>And games like Grand Turismo for the PS2 were 8 fucking Gigs

GT3 is 3.1 GB
GT4 is 4.1 GB

Also when developers have an excessive amount of space they tend to forgo all compression. So in all likelihood, you could squeeze these games down into GameCube form without any real loss of quality (since you could do lossless or almost lossless compression even back then)

Keep telling yourself that. Just prteend it's Literally 2007 and the switch doesnt look that weak.

Fine. I've had enough of this "debate" so I'll drop it, you've made your point. Basically pretend everything I said was the same except up there I started with Gamecube instead of 64.

No, seriously, explain even one thing that a "Flop" does and prove it's not just a meme.

Show me a console comparison of Xbone and Ps4 and how they are nearly fucking identical both in look and framerate and then explain how a flop makes one magically better.

i can show you 150 games that have massive frame drops on the xbone but are steady on the ps4.
iirc the ps4 has 1.84tflops and the xbone 1.2~