Why do people still defend the combat system in this?

Why do people still defend the combat system in this?

Nostalgia fags deserve death

It is pavlovian at this point.
They know it sucks.

It sucks, but it's not as bad as everyone makes it to be. It's standard 2000 RPG suckage.

I agree, Oblivionbabies need to be purged.

If Elder Scrolls didn't have it's lore and we judged the series based on gameplay alone they would all be sub-par shitty and boring games with empty worlds tbqh

>they would all be sub-par shitty and boring games with empty worlds tbqh

>lore
I think most people play for the open world and couldn't care less about lore.

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The gameplay is boring, not because they're incompetent but because they're stretching too much
It's all surface level bullshit, gameplay in the elder scrolls series is not it's strong point

It's similar to pen and paper combat that videogamers aren't used to, but doesn't take very long to get used to.

Do you actually believe people buy elder scroll games because of the lore?

Most people have shit taste

but how is shitting on Morrowind's combat system going to help you justify that Skyrim is a Transformer IV levels of casual piece of shit media?

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It's a dice based chance system. What's not to understand? Want to hit enemies more? Increase your skoll to get higher hit rolls.

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>keep hitting people with 0 stamina
>quit after two minutes because muh attacks don't connect
>even when it's specified in the game's manual that you won't hit shit unless you have stamina

I think the combat system is pretty cool
it seems clunky but i really like the game
no nostalgia neither because i first played the game like 3 or 4 years ago

All TES games have shitty combat systems

you're really just supposed to use magic if you want a fun game
plus with all the spells like levitation and whatnot it seems dumb to just main meele

>magic
i want to play an open world RPG, not a resting simulator.
i get plenty of rest every thursday night after I have sex with your mom.

I still think TES has the most interesting magic system. Being a mage and crafting spells, potions, trapping souls and enchanting feel like being some arcane scientist instead of being just a flashy alternative to a archer like in most games.

DEFEND IT MORROWHINERS

>TES has the most interesting magic system

that's not Nox.
that's not Ultima Underworld.
that's not Magicka.
that's not Arx Fatalis.

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>posting the modded video

here's your (you)

>5th best among all games of all time
Pretty good imo.

oh crap here's the real one

>50 radius 40pts lightning damage for 2 sec
>Game crashes

>player character doesn't lose any stamina
>shopkeeper doesn't lose any health

At least check your own webms for that sort of discrepancy when you want to make fanboys angry.

Because too many here have stupidly black and white ideas of good and bad games here. If you enjoy a game, then you have to defend all aspects of it and vice versa. For some reason, it is so hard to admit that even if you personally enjoyed the game (and even consider it objectively good as whole), it still can have flaws, even major ones at that.

It's hardly just a Sup Forums thing that people consider their favorite things as sacred cows.

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Why? Could it be that because stupid underaged faggots like you are too retarded to git gud and stop complaining about it. If you spent even a minute thinking about how the stats work, you could see that there's nothing wrong with it.

Morrowind is an awesome game because its autistic nostalgiafag fanboys can't help but be triggered every time you say something negative about it

>doesn't lose any stamina
because the video quality is low and you don't see the small stamina drop (followed by the stamina small stamina recovery) in the small window.
>doesn't lose any health
because she never gets hit

you'll never make it to Ald Velothi with this level of experience come on

Well yeah, most threads about any game series here consist of people thinking of ways to defend their personal favorites while attacking the other games in the series. It's almost if it was a tournament or something.

Yeah desu i'll give them that but imo it's because magic is interesting in itself not because they did something good/original with it

I only started the game a month ago and hated the combat because I didn't understand that. After reading a quick guide explaining how the percentages are calculated and using longswords which I had been specializing in as opposed to axes which I had been using the game became much better. There is nothing wrong with the combat and anyone saying otherwise is a retard. Or y'know had a different experience like playing a mage which I hadn't done in which case maybe it does suck.

unlike making infinite threads shitting on the entire game just because your small brain couldnt handle the combat right? you fucking idiots cant even win within your own nonsensical logic

why people keep cheking this 5?

Only after bethesda fucked every established lore after morrowind. You wouldn't know. You were born after youtube.

This shopkeeper is level 4. He has enough stats to hit her a billion times in a row, he has a full fatigue bar, and yet he never manages to hit her.

I'm gonna say mods or something because the chances of that happening are already astronomically low, but to be able to record that ? No way.

I have never, ever, had this happen in my game.

Hitting an enemy with zero stamina should be a hit, but it should only do like 1 damage.

Missing on an attack that clearly lands breaks immersion in a real-time RPG.

Why do people still defend Bethesda or pretend like they ever were a good developer is beyond me.

Morrowind I can sort of get, I have never been able to enjoy it but one could make legitimate arguments towards it doing some good things. So, I usually don't sperg out when I see the retarded ass threads about some fuck named Vivec or gray mushrooms or whatever other gay shit people before Todd thought would make for a great gaming experience.

And yet, with full knowledge of the "stop liking what I don't like" meme, I legitimately have no fucking idea what sort of a person could start up Oblivion and actually enjoy themselves for any significant amount of time.

It's like they run on different fucking brainwaves or something. I've been here long years and so far I haven't been able to get the answer.

>one shotting everything in your path while flying at 100 mph is boring

sure Morrowind's combat sucks for a while but once you get your skills high enough you can do tons of crazy shit that you can't do in the other games.

I love the game but the combat system is garbage, having multiple layers of hit detection is retarded. You can't have an arrow sail into a mudcrab and retroactively say that it didn't hit. That being said if you actually had trouble killing shit you are retarded

People like different things user.
It isn't rocket science retard.

The biggest flaw with the combat is the curve from
Shitty-Sweet spot-Piss easy.

The sweet spot went by in a flash.

No fucking shit, thanks for swooping in and telling me what everyone else knows and what I pointed out in the post you replied to, you cunty fucking moron.

I want to understand the mindset of a typical person playing Oblivion and having their brains actually releasing endorphins. What do they enjoy precisely, etc.

This. Having the combat look like a 3D action game while it really works almost like an isometric RPG under the hood doesn't really work that well. Instead of balancing it with hits and misses, they should have had balanced with damage - if it looks like it should hit, it hits, but it also does shit damage if your stamina is low or you had a extra bad roll w/ bad stats.

Does it really matter you joyless fuck?
If you understood the mindset would it help you sleep at night?
Would it give you insight into how to convince them they are not in fact enjoying themselves?

Go play games you enjoy and quit worrying about others you sanctimonius piece of shit.

>AEUHHH???

Nobody actually plays Oblivion or Skyrim, they just jerk off to the sex mods and waifus.

You're just doing the typical, boring thing where you tell people not to care about things because you think that your particular stance of "only caring about le fun xDDD" some-fucking-how puts you in a superior or enlightened postion.

No fucking shit enjoying video games is important you dumb fuck, they are fucking ENTERTAINMENT after all.

I don't give a flying fuck about Morrowind and TES in general because I never found it fun, but I want to figure out what is the thing that other people like about it. And you fucking sperg out for some reason, telling me what to do in the process.

I don't enjoy golf in any way shgape or form.
Guess how many times I go to golfing forums to let people know that.
It is a big number
A big fat zero.

If you don't like something why do you feel the compulsion to share it with those who do?

If you are a fag go to Bioware threads
If you like cutscenes in your game go to Witcher threads
If you are a hipster go find an Underrail thread.

You're a braindead moron if you think anyone but Sup Forumsirgins buy these games for the lore.

>i can't play the game worth a shit but i can make videos of it
Go away, Polygon. You're embarrassing yourself.

literally get gud

started playing this game for the first time afew weeks ago and I learned how to hit shit you just gotta actually work at it

I even did good damage to those flying lizard things but theres no justification for those being around

>I don't enjoy golf in any way shgape or form.
I have a friend who does this analogy shit all the time and it's always retarded and completely misses the point just like you did right now, it drives me fucking nuts. Congratulations, thanks for the deja vu.

I enjoy video games, they are my hobby, I like talking about something that is part of my hobby even if I don't automatically enjoy it. Morrowind is, as you might've realized, a fucking video game.

You're still telling me what to do and pushing the obvious shit, it's as hilarious as it is rage-worthy.

>"But you're missing because you have no stami-"

>Or y'know had a different experience like playing a mage which I hadn't done in which case maybe it does suck.
Plot twist: Playing a mage is the best way to play Morrowind. Or at least a battlemage if you still want to wear armor and smash skulls.

I don't think anyone who isn't an idiot knows that TES has shit combat. With possibly Morrowind having the worst one with how slow it is.

Newsflash
Just because you enjoy video games does not mean you have to enjoy every video game.

It does a decent job abstracting character abilities and would be good if the system was more visually/aurally responsive.

Does it also mean that I can't fucking ask people about why they enjoy a certain thing that I don't enjoy?

Fucking Christ, user.

Your post I responded to was worded to elicit a "yep Bethesda sucks" response.

If you are looking for a hugbox there are many subreddits that may be to your liking.
An even better pace would be the RPG Codex.

I have done all I can for you now I will say Good Day.

>"yep Bethesda sucks"
Well, they do, don't they?

I said Good Day

The only thing wrong with Morrowind combat is the absence of miss and dodge animations.

And a tip top zoopity dop good day to you, my obvious-things-spouting friend.

And relying on a dice roll to see if I remembered I was carrying a shield.

was gonna post these.

i love the amount of butthurt that they produce.

Please nobody hire this man as a game designer.

>I legitimately have no fucking idea what sort of a person could start up Oblivion and actually enjoy themselves for any significant amount of time.

Either people don't see the flaws in the games they play or they don't really impact their enjoyment of the games. Just like I love dragon's dogma even though it has no plot until you've practically finished the game, or just like I love Fallout even though the combat in all of them is totally ass. You should now have an idea of why some people can start up Oblivion and enjoy themselves.

Read the reviews if you want specific reasons as to why people like any TES. You may not agree with their reasons (and in my opinion you'd be right), but still, you'd see why. Even though it doesn't make any fucking sense, pic related. That just means they're either blind to the flaws, or don't care about them in the first place.

tl;dr obvious stuff of obviousness

its not even butthurt anymore at this point, it's more like "oh he's posting those again, better give him his You's so he'll go away giggling like the dank memer he thinks he is"

Dragon's Dogma is designed so that the world, what little characters there is, and the combat are good enough to give you enough of a cohesive gaming experience to keep you invested. In other words, it's a good game despite of its shortcomings.

I don't think I have to explain why the Fallout games are good, either.

>Either people don't see the flaws in the games they play or they don't really impact their enjoyment of the games.
Which basically confirms, disregarding the pointless babble about everyone being able to voice themselves, that people's opinions on a given medium are absolutely worthless if they haven't immersed themselves in it and haven't experienced the finer works in it.

This. I even do this with Morrowind.

Yeah, they were bad examples.
Well, for another example (hopefully better picked this time), I really, really love Sonic R even though it's considered trash by everyone.
>the soundtrack is shit and corny
Literally my favourite video game soundtrack. it's 90s pop at its best.
>the controls are junk
I didn't have any problems with them.
>two hours of content
Short and sweet.

Many of the issues people have with this game are absolutely valid but they don't impact my ability to have fun at all.

>Which basically confirms, disregarding the pointless babble about everyone being able to voice themselves, that people's opinions on a given medium are absolutely worthless if they haven't immersed themselves in it and haven't experienced the finer works in it.
Sure.

Hey Sup Forums i think i'll download Morrowind right now, are any mods necessary? Its a shame it never get discounted more than 50%

Dark souls is worse.