Let me get this straight

Let me get this straight...

These things are out already?

We have mainstream virtual reality headsets available from local entertainment stores?

Why aren't all gaming forums inundated with conversations on VR?

Is this another Virtua Boy blunder in the making?

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5-8 more years user, hang in there unless you enjoy tech demo experiences.

Not a lot of games out for them. The ones that are out are either tech demos, not good, or can be played normally anyway.

This thing with VR right now is that there's nothing you can play for more than an hour. I'm not talking about headaches or nausea either, there's just no actual games on it, rather just small minigames and "experiences" that take half an hour at most.

The most fun I had with it was Fruit Ninja VR, so take that how you will.

Turns out if you cheap out with something that can cause motion sickness, it gives you really bad motion sickness. Tracking drifting away from you in rotational movement, or pulsating your view in and out are the norm for PSVR

>no medieval RPG VR games

why even buy it?

Nothing really great to play on these VR sets

They're a lot sexier theoretically.

In theory the perfect VR headset would be wireless, light-weight, and affordable. Currently, VR is none of those unless you go with mobile VR, which is not as "holo-deck" like as PC or console attached VR is.

So in short, it sounds cool, and it's cool when you use your VR headset at first, but it's not practical for gaming and in the end, buttons are always going to be in vogue.

SteamVR has a real Serious Sam game and that Arizona Sunshine game so I think we're finally getting somewhere.

Got myself an HTC Vive a week ago, ask me anything.

PSVR is dogshit.

Oculus is owned by pure cancer.

Vive is too expensive and still in development.

So we have no killer apps and won't for years. Though they all have neat little games to check out.

No gaems.

Until Re7, the killer app we desperately need.

Is it comfortable for people with glasses?

>go to Sup Forums out of boredom
>thread about VR
>comments there are as insightful as your typical youtube comments

Really activated my almonds.

Because PC VR is the prize, not PS4's.

I'm nearsighted but I don't need glasses in VR. I think it's a bit awkward/uncomfortable to keep your glasses in there.

>complains about lack of insight
>offers no insight

Sup Forums hates VR what did you expect

Ok nice, I'm nearsighted as well so hopefully I won't need to use glasses. Not like I can get a Vive anytime soon anyway.

I just got my Gear VR today.
Really enjoying laying in bed browsing the net and streaming videos. Ultimate laziness.

Takes 10 seconds for someone to type something as retarded as "Currently, VR is none of those unless you go with mobile VR, which is not as "holo-deck" like as PC or console attached VR is." ()

Takes 10 minutes to do a proper rebuttal.

The HTC Vive is a mature product. Niche, perfectible, but the tracking is incredibly accurate and there is no latency whatsoever which makes it incredible, the HMD secondary to it. I've had more fun using mine than I've had in any "normal" non-VR game, even in crappy unity demos or games I'd typically not even bother downloading for free. For a good polished VR experience, I'm ready to shell out money because it's something entirely different I know I'm going to have a blast with.

Games like audioshield (with a modded higher difficulty) or Raw Data don't even feel like video games, they're just a level above.

I miss being in the honeymoon period

>>>r/iamverysmart/

What, the "insightful" word triggered you?

Got a PSVR, and I'm overall happy with it. Rush of Blood is fucking awesome. I think that REVII will be the first "real" game for VR, and if the demo's anything to go by, the VR's going to be great in that. They're even selling a scented candle that smells like rotting wood, leather, and blood to enhance the immersion.

They're too expensive for the majority of people.

If you want a 'real' game like Arizona Sunshine to look good without major jaggies/blurriness and lag/reprojection, you literally need a Titan XP. For minimal specs, you still need a ~$800 build plus headset cost.

Plus most of the games for them are shit, but I like my racing and Elite and Windlands.

>having a candle burning while your practically blinded
Yeah this should be good

Because VR isn't cheap yet. That thing is $400 on top of a $250-300 PS4 or $400 PS4 Pro.

The Switch is going to be the cheapest VR gaming gateway at $400 and will have the controllers and head mount in the box.

Virtual Boy?

>PSVR already sold it's initial stock and already made profit
>Their VR R&D and Manufacturing didn't cost ridiculous amounts of money since most of the parts are not custom and affordable.
>VR hobbyist already hack the PSVR found a way to use it on PC complete with headtracking.

Who leaves candles in a place where they have to have it in their line of sight at all times? I would think your average non-retard would put it somewhere where there's no danger of it falling over, or lighting anything on fire.

>20 fps 720p VR

Yeah, suuure.

>average non-retard
But that's not the PSVR audience, you need a PS4 in the first place.

VR is legit, but it's still very expensive and thus it has a small install base and little incentive to develop serious games for it.

Console and smartphone VR is like those $50 quad-copters you can buy at Walmart. Yea they're technically "drones", but they're basically just toy versions of the real high end stuff that costs $1000+

It's going to be another 5-10 years before it gets cheap enough to be commonplace on PC, and even longer for consoles.

I didn't say it'd be pretty, but people will use it if it comes bundled.

Below 90 fps, VR is unusable. Also the HTC Vive is 1080p PER EYE and the screen door effect is already pretty noticeable. If anyone believes the Switch will offer any sort of decent VR experience they're completely deluding themselves.

I don't know about the screen or specifics on the specs, but I know Samsung's gearvr has far less power than the switch will have

not him but gearvr isn't good VR

Pokemon's framerate on the 3DS isn't good either, but that didn't stop them from not bothering to scale down the battle models.

>Is this another Virtua Boy blunder in the making?

there's no good way to market such an asinine niche that everyone wants

could you have possibly increased the autism for this reply?

Nobody cares.

What games is everyone excited to play for VR? None that I know of. The excitement for the hardware will increase when there's software worth playing that makes use of it. Until then it's just a gimmick

They're still too expensive and too low resolution. At some point these might not be issues anymore but as of know you're just spending an assload of money on something that's just not auite there yet.

Best VR games for me so far:
Doom 3 BFG with the VR mod
Arizona Sunshine (4 hours)
A Chair in a Room : Greenwater (2 hours)
Raw Data (haven't finished it yet)
Vanishing Realms (2 hours)
Overkill VR (game is not finished yet, yeah it's basically a time-crisis style wave shooter but I really like how you have to duck into cover to survive)

>people already hate paying over 400 for a console
>Expect them to throw cash at kinect 2.0 with no games for 500 us dollars

cmon now

>>VR hobbyist already hack the PSVR found a way to use it on PC complete with headtracking.
delet

Because it's a literal meme gimmick that flopped, just like 3D and waggle.

>delet
Why?
It's actually affordable headset with great ergonomy and if you want to try shit out on a budget it's easier to drop $400 than $1000.
>cmon now
>sold out

>kinect 2.0

You want to know how I know you've never tried it?

My psvr hasn't had any issues with the world pulsing or drifting.

Okay, I'll tell you what happened

It was going to be neat hobbyist shit for people to dick around and tinker with for fun.

Then facebook bought out oculus and it became unfun corporate schlok. All the genuine hobbyists lost interest as corporate dicksuckers did all the testing and hardware development instead.

Then the products were finalized and ready, but there weren't any games to actually play on them, because the hobbyists never actually got a chance to tinker and develop this shit organically.

They're cold clean sterile and functional products that embody modern life: All superficial looks and no depth.

>people spend $500 on a VR headset that has no games and all support dropped after launch

Why aren't people pissed off about this? Do they enjoy that Sony dick so much?

>>Then facebook bought out oculus and it became unfun corporate schlok. All the genuine hobbyists lost interest as corporate dicksuckers did all the testing and hardware development instead.
You're a braindead faggot. All the "hobbyists" had them for years.

If you were going to blame FB, it'd be for the price. What they SHOULD have done is sold it at cost. They'd have lost a ton of money on R&D, but the hope would be to build up the OR store as the only real VR marketplace.

Because the headset would only cost 200 bucks, they'd completely annihilate the competition. And because the attach rate would have been a couple of orders of magnitude higher, people would actually be making games for the OR.


Instead, the suits all panicked and decided that the first gen had to be super expensive so they could recoup their R&D costs. The reason VR failed is because it's far too expensive for anyone with a brain. At 200 bucks, that's in line with the cost of a new monitor, and it would have been a fairly easy sell with all the word of mouth.

Many people just use it as a private screen.

>Tracking drifting away from you in rotational movement, or pulsating your view in and out are the norm for PSVR
Works on my machine.

>that has no games and all support dropped after launch
You have to make better bait than outright lies.
You know people can just google and check.
Or you could for once check yourself instead of regurgitating Sup Forums memes and post the low counts as argument instead of usual Sup Forums hyperbole no one takes seriously.

VR is dope.

It's the future of games.

But right now it's the equivalent of buying an arcade cabinet before Nintendo hit the scene.

Innovative, but over expensive.

It's a game changer but it's not widely consumable yet.

>there's just no actual games on it
When will this meme just die?

inB4 "they're tech demos" because that's a blatant lie too.

How's Edge of Nowhere? My roommate's got an Occulus, which I can use at any time, and I'm trying to decide between that and Arizona Sunshine.

so what if he didn't you brain damaged retard

Indie "games" aren't games.

Because he's spouting nonsense about something he has no experience with, and knows nothing about. I guess that's kind of Sup Forums's thing, though.

Looks really nice and the third person camera is a lot more involved than I expected. Aiming the flashlight and gun/rocks.

It's a pretty long game too. 6-8 hours.

>Games funded by Oculus
>'indie'

Get your buzzwords right at least.

>There are still people who think VR was made to be accessible and not just for enthusiasts.
>That one retard that's suggesting they should have sold them at a cost.
Jesus fucking Christ, as if I needed more evidence most of this board isn't just sucking on sour grapes.

VR is not the future, it's a gimmick.

Most genre of videogames won't work in VR because of its limited control scheme and I can't see how it's going to be improved in the future to allow free movement.

I'm just not into VR I guess. The only use I could see for it would be fucking anime girls but I'm married and it would be very hard to sneak that one past her.

I'm just gonna sit this VR thing out.

...You do realize that VR isn't limited to its motion controllers correct?
I could play a racing game with a racing wheel or a flight sim with a flight stick, or a third person game with a controller.
Hell, Onward has movement down already, the touchpad can move you, and if your move your thumb to the edge of it you run.

Selling something for enthusiasts works when there's a dedicated reason for it.

Take flight sims, and driving sims. You can spend thousands on a fully custom rig for either, or you can spend less than 100 bucks and get the exact same advantage. Not only that, but there are multiple sims you can play, and more coming out all the time.

VR isn't like that. It's priced solely for the high end of the market, despite having far wider potential appeal than sim games. And thanks to that pricing disaster, they sold a miniscule number of units and nobody is working on any games because it's literally impossible to generate a profit when your userbase is this limited.

Racing games are fucking epic in VR. When they find a way to cram two 4K displays in a VR headset and price it for $400 (MAX), I will be there front and center to get one first.

If you had bothered to look at the sales numbers for flight sims and driving sims you wouldn't have made that post.
Because it makes you looks fucking stupid.

People are going to keep badmouthing VR until they get to try it themselves. No avoiding that.

Once again, someone with no experience with VR feeling the need to give us their valued opinion.

I used to badmouth VR. Since then I've tried a handful of demos and it's alright but it's not ready yet. It's an expensive gimmick for middle to upper middle class white people who can set aside an entire room for Fruit Ninja and archery sims. Passing in the meanwhile

Excuse me, fucko, I'm a lower middle class white guy and I have one, so I'd like an apology.

If anything is going to kill VR it's how stupid people are about being exposed to new things. Every time I see a VR thread on Sup Forums it's dunning-kruger effect in full display. The average negative post re: VR on Sup Forums sums up perfectly as "My entire understanding of the subject is limited to having seen a few memes about it on Sup Forums and here is my authoritative analysis on why it sucks. No I haven't used it before, why would I try something that sucks so bad?"

Myopic luddites reinforcing each other's narratives of failure, garnished with a thick helping of sour grapes. That's what Sup Forums is sadly.

Why

do you

keep talking

like this?

Pretty much. Plus silly shit like rejecting Oculus because they're funded by Facebook, who've done nothing aside from some exclusives that don't even work.

That's just Sup Forums about anything. "I haven't played it but I'm going to regurgitate this shitpost I read"

I fucking love people saying there arent any real games while you can play pretty much any FP game in VR using Tridef or Vortex and it will look the same as native games only you have to configure them for a bit more than 10 sec but you are lazy fucking cunts and cant do shit.

Hell you can make PSVR work on PC easily and turn it into something recognized as HTC vive from your windows.

>virtual reality
>no simulated touch, smell, taste
It's not 'virtual reality', it's head-mounted 3D. Not even remotely close to real VR. That's why nobody cares.

>People bitch about the price now
>Want technology beyond our scope
>"WAAAAAAAAH WHY IS THIS SEVERAL GRAND FLOP FLOP FLOP!!!"

>That's why nobody cares.

Every normie that tried this shit is amazed by it.

Its just that PSVR is the only one that is worth a shit for now.

It depends on your glasses.
I don't wear any, but I've demoed a Vive to a bunch of people, and it all came down to the size of the glasses. Small works, large doesn't.
And they had to put on the HMD differently than everyone else.

>the HTC Vive is 1080p PER EYE
It's 1080x1200 per eye. 2160x1200 is not much larger than 1920x1080

If they could make your keyboard visible while you have your Vive headset on like with the base stations and controllers it'd be 10/10, because then I could shitpost in VR without lifting the headset.

Still fair to take not liking facebook and their practices a factor in choosing Vive v Oculus etc. Just gets stupid where developers get pitchforked by retards who don't know how to think in moderate terms and everything has to be all or nothing.

So it is, and it's a mindset that propagates itself. Get exposed to it and the misinformation it carries enough and at some level it'll affect your reasoning past just natural skepticism. Calling it out is then healthy for the intelligence of a community.

>Below 90 fps, VR is unusable

Why arent the milions that bought PSVR throwing up and literally dying then?

>Below 90 fps, VR is unusable
Not that I've tried it.
But Rift and PSVR both uses technology where the software is run at 45fps and by using magic are turning it to 90.
And from what I've heard it's not as good as proper 90fps, but that it's still satisfactory for VR.

PSVR is 60 to """fake""" 120.

Kill yourself, cuck.

I'll buy one for porn in a few years when shit gets better, but you wont catch me dead playing games on that shit waving my arms around like some fucking retard

Letting someone influence how you think is more cuckish desu.
Instead of fucking your wife, they're fucking your brain.

>but you wont catch me dead playing games on that shit waving my arms around like some fucking retard

Or you can just use your pad/keyboard+ mouse like a normal human being using VR.

Like what fucking retard would prefer to play games like Forza Horizon,RE7 or Elite:D on a monitor than a VR headset.

You don't wanna shoot a gun like you're actually shootin' a gun?

Learn to touch type

Vive's new tracker puts real world objects in vr but I don't think that would help.

This is really crossing the line of whether its gay or not, or at least making the line really really grey

Because it's just a gimmick. No, wait, it's the biggest gimmick ever yet.

You can't type without looking?

I'd buy the PSVR for RE7 but you can't even find it in Romania yet.

The technology came 5 years too early.

The hardware isn't good enough to handle headset VR to a satisfactory level at an affordable price, leading to many of the releases for it being nothing more than concept tech demos.

Give it a few years and people might be talking about it, at the moment the technology is in what you might call the 'teething' phase of it's life. Not a complete non-starter like the Virtual Boy but still not quite good enough (or cheap enough) to really see mainstream appeal and discussion.

I predict that the next generation of Sony and Xbox consoles will come with far superior VR headsets bundled in about 3-4 years.

Mods have suppressed discussion here on Sup Forums. If it's not a formulaic 'YOU FELL FOR THE VR MEME' thread it gets pruned via stopped bumping.

currently playing Brookhaven, very impressed so far (mostly due to coming from zero expectation).

right now Sup Forums is DEEP into a 'VR HAS NO GAMES' meme, where anti-vr faggots continually shift the goal-posts. see store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Reviews_DESC&category1=998&vrsupport=101
there are plenty of games. if you truly can't find anything here that appeals to you, maybe you just don't like videogames at all.