Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates have:

Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates have:
>an Avatar to allow the player to immerse themselves in the story
>supports for bonus character development outside of the plot
>a marriage system to entice players to unlock supports between units they like as well as..
>unique children that can be modified via eugenics to make stronger units
>Pair Up to allow for more strategy, refined in Fates with Attack and Guard Stance
>My Castle in Fates that gives you something to do between chapters with online interactivity to visit and battle with others
>beautiful CG cutscenes
>tons of content [Awakening - 26 Chapters, 23 Paralogues; Birthright/Conquest/Revelation - 28 Chapters, 22 Paralogues]
>with Xenologues factored in, it's very possible you will never run out of maps to play

Fire Emblem Echoes has:
>no Avatar, Alm is still the main character, if you don't like Alm as a character then tough break
>no supports
>no marriage system; Alm and Celica were a pair in the original game, if you don't like Celica, you're out of luck
>no child units
>no Pair Up
>no petting or other notable features from My Castle
>it's trying to stay as faithful to Gaiden as possible, meaning that QOL changes from Awakening/Fates are removed
>only five (5) chapters, Gaiden is one of the shortest FE games
>2D QUALITY anime cutscenes
>clearly a tight budget, B-team pet project just to keep the 3DS alive a liiiiiiiittle while longer while the true A-team works on FE Switch
>fast localization implies that there isn't a lot of text in general to translate, less content
>will sell very poorly if word of cut features gets out
>poor sales will convince IntSys to not remake other past titles (good)

>all three games have the same price

So why are we excited for this again? You're paying the same money for less content. Just because it's a remake doesn't mean it has to be as barebones as the original. I guess since Fire Emblem is popular now it doesn't matter if you gyp the fans or not.

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Reminder OP is just a shitposter and people outside of Sup Forums aren't this retarded.

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>No petting

It wouldn't be in the NA version anyway.

>no avatar
>no child units
>no pair up
>no petting

Fire Emblem Echoes sound more interesting.

Not an argument.

it's gonna be shit, but it's still infinitely better than nuFE because no kozaki art and avatar. mainline fe is guaranteed to be awakening rehashing

I don't like self-insert avatars though. I can be immersed in a story without needing a stand-in for the player and often find that in the case of Awakening and ESPECIALLY Fates, that conversations with Corrin devalues whichever character they talk to by proxy. At least Robin was kinda likeable since until the last third of the game he was just a guy.

I know but I'm bored and wouldn't mind genuine conversation.

Putting the bait aside for a second, do people really want child units to be a mainstay for the series? It made sense in 4, was nice as a throwback/nod in Awakening and was forced as fuck in Fates.

I still don't get why they remake Gaiden instead of just going for FE4 and 5.

>clearly a tight budget, B-team pet project just to keep the 3DS alive a liiiiiiiittle while longer while the true A-team works on FE Switch

Even though this is a bait thread this ain't wrong.

>2D QUALITY anime cutscenes
it's CGI you retard

as for your bait post overall, have a (You)

Someone last thread was saying this game wasn't getting SE, that is wrong, at least in japan.
>siliconera.com/2017/01/19/fire-emblem-echoes-limited-editions-japan-come-plenty-goodies/

I'm pretty confident they're going to take a break from it in the switch title, or at least only give one to the avatar.

The kids in fate felt like they had zero presence in their world and their chracters suffered a fuckton for it.

Thank you OP, I'm sold.
Game looks fantastic.

Is there incest involved with this brother/sister pair ?
This is important.

Nice going Op, starting the thread with such bait so it stays alive.

>no avatar
>no cringy romances
>no dumbass child units
>bad

I only want them in the next game if they do a timeskip. Otherwise they should drop it.

>So why are we excited for this again?
For me its just Hidari's artwork.
This is the first Amiboo I'll buy.

The game engine, character designs and basic story is there already, that significantly cuts their workload already.

And by the time it releases, Fates would have been released 2 years ago. 2 years is plenty of development time.

is this the bitching thread?
last one just archived

Hey, no avatar and childs is good, but don't talk shit about the supports.

People hyped for Echoes probably haven't even played Gaiden, its maps are WORSE than Awakening and was the inspiration for that game's map design

>Fire Emblem Echoes: Generations of Jugdral coming May 2018 for the Nintendo 3DS family of systems

No. They were Stupid as fuck in awakening already. It made way to many god damned hnit and recruitment missions to care. I want a reasonably sized cast instead.

They actively made the story worse in Awakening and Fates. If they do include them in future games, they should have a timeskip like in FE4.

Japan hated a lot or the children in Fates especially when 60% of them are rehashed old characters from past ganes.

I see them dropping the mechanic next game.

While marriage system is still there, there will be no child mechanic

I'd be all over an Elibe saga remake where you could pair FE7 charcters to have an effect on some effect on the resulting FE6 crew. Keep the pairing options very limited like the originals however so you can focus more on developing meaningful interactions.

I'll shittalk the supports all I want, Awakening supports all go like this

>character A displays their anime trope
>character B talks about it
>character A then comments about character B's anime trope
>repeat unril they decide to fuck each ofher

It's shit.

They were good in awakening because it was justfied in universe due to the time travel plot. But was complete bullshit in fates, "putting the kids in a alternate dimension until they grown up" really?

This is a bait thread, but some of the criticism is valid.

The map design is honestly pretty weak in Gaiden, and the lack of supports will hurt the quality of the characters. The story, while better than say Fates, is still nothing to go crazy about.

The game is gonna need some updates to be good.

can we at least move to a new thread without a bait op

They said that they're rebuilding the game from the ground up, so they could easily be changing the maps. And there are some inconsistencies between Valm in Awakening and what happened in Gaiden, so it's likely that the remake will change things to make them consistent.

>no Avatar, Alm is still the main character, if you don't like Alm as a character then tough break
>no supports
>no marriage system; Alm and Celica were a pair in the original game, if you don't like Celica, you're out of luck
>no child units
>no Pair Up
>no petting or other notable features from My Castle
>it's trying to stay as faithful to Gaiden as possible, meaning that QOL changes from Awakening/Fates are removed
So its going to be a great Fire Emblem unlike Awakening/Fates? Shit, with no supports as well, that makes it even better, I better get ready to preorder this, it might steal Shadow Dragon's spot as my favorite FE.

Anyone else find it odd that Amazon is the only retailer taking preorders?

>Half-dragon Roy would be canon
I'd be down with it.

You do know at the very least they're going to add in an ABC support system and probably even marriage, right?

No, I liked the child units as individual characters but I'd rather them just be standalones.

>Shadow Dragon
>favourite FE
You should probably play more than one FE game.

>shadow dragon
user your taste is sp fucking bad it's embarassing. Literally the worst FE, and why im hesitant for Echoes. The new shit they tried just didn't work with the game they were remaking. Reclassing and stuff just ended up fucking retarded in that one.

Nice bait. I'm an awakeningbaby myself and I'm fucking pumped for Valentia.

Child is too much of a reality to break people's fantasy of waifu romance.

Its like anime polt are mostly end up with confession, two people finally getting together or sth. But if you bring about the after life, its just seemed too heavy for people to take in.

>Shadow Dragon's spot as my favorite FE
kill yourself

This game will be the perfect test to see if FE's new fanbase will buy a traditional FE. I doubt it.

>>no Avatar, Alm is still the main character, if you don't like Alm as a character then tough break
>>no supports
>>no marriage system; Alm and Celica were a pair in the original game, if you don't like Celica, you're out of luck
>>no child units
>>no Pair Up
>>no petting or other notable features from My Castle
Sounds like the best Fire emblem this decade

>if you don't like celiac
Celiac is literal goddess tier. Only someone as retarded as you wouldnt like her.

How much of the cast of FE6 would that even effect?

How can you like shadow dragon? its remake is the worst game ever.

Map design and adding supports are incredibly easy to fix though, it's not like they're going to stay faithful to bad features.

Barely enough for it to matter.

Roy/Lilina/Sue/Lugh/Raigh

>Shadow Dragon's spot as my favorite FE
>being hyped for fucking Gaiden because it's not Awakening/Fates

>no avatar
>no child units
>no pair up
>no petting
>no My Castle

Sounds better already

the trailer might have given a wrong impression because the two battle scenes we saw were exact replicas of the NES version iirc

but I'm sure they'll improve things

ABC supports and proper paired endings I'd be fine with. They probably won't add in S Rank/Marriage stuff, but I'll hold my tongue.
Alm and Celica will still end up being endgame regardless though.

Wolt, Bors, and Wendy too.

>it's not like they're going to stay faithful to bad features.
>Shadow Dragon

I am scared Sup Forums, what will NoA censor? anons told me the original game has nothing that could be censored but what if they add new stuff that could?

>no Avatar, Alm is still the main character, if you don't like Alm as a character then tough break
Taking the bait. The "self-inserts" in Awakening/Fates still have characters. I fucking hate Corrin and I was stuck with that fucker for some 26 x 2 chapters.

>lewd weeb shit getting censored

Who cares?

They realize hat was stupid of them and learn their mistake in FE12.

yeah

corring not having a character would have been an improvement. Fucking retarded piece of shit

>Bors and Wendy
You probably meant Clarine, Klein and Fir but those three are fixed.

*that

They seem to have learnt their lesson with New Mystery of the Emblem. I'd be incredibly surprised if this game is as bare bones as Shadow Dragon.

I do, i literally didn't get fates because the 90s level censorship.

I've finished four of them (Shadow Dragon, Sacred Stones, Path of Radiance, Awakening) and I'm in the middle of Binding Blade and New Mystery of the Emblem.

I like the simplicity of it compared to other FEs, there's no supports so you don't have to worry about sitting units next to ones that have supports with and shit, plus it has my favorite art and overall my favorite music of the series.

apparently not

Is no supports confirmed? I've played all the FEs from 6 onward and the worst ones had little or no supports, and I doubt that is a coincidence.

They could also make Sue Lyn's kid if they wanted to

Anything new they add that's could be censored is probably shit and makes the game worse anyway.

I don't think ninty is that stupid. Direct showed they want to please all audiences. Shit like this is to keep the hardcore fans invested even if it doesn't sell well. Hardcore fans are less volatile and won't leave you for something else as fast as normies. They also generate most the buzz and talk about your IP. They also clearly want to sell the IP to non srpg fans and cash in on gacha. It's all just to bolster the IP.

It will probably have the old support system pre awakening

Shadow Dragon has supports. Just no conversations. IS never took out supports since the mechanic was introduced, what they took out was conversations.

serenesforest.net/shadow-dragon/characters/support-bonus/

No, unless they're forced on you like in FE4. Even in Awakening they were annoying - by the time you could get them, your army was a much higher level. You had to go out of your way and grind to use them.

She might as well be since its Lyn or nothing.

Supports are entirely optional though. Only an autist would be flustered by not being able to complete every single support. I'd imagine that you will at least prefer FE12 to it when you've completed it, otherwise you have a serious case of shit-taste syndrome.

Stay in your Neptunia thread, weeb.

> Literally shaking right now, NoA is literally gonna rape us with that censorship

We gaminism now.

>Brother/Sister
user...

If you want children that badly either do a FE4 or just make an outright sequel game staring them.

Are you sure they're not adding any more chapters? I recall seeing a description for a Japanese special edition DLC saying that it makes the "earlier chapters" less difficult.

Some people just come to Sup Forums to bitch and cry all day long. They don't actually enjoy video games.

The only reason things got to this point is majorly due to staff incompetence.

>this entire post
What are you even talking about? Are you ok?

Grind and Gold dlc.

All fe dlc has been terrible and unesesary. Sometimes even making the game worse.

I don't try to complete the supports, but I feel like I should sometimes, when a unit dies I think that I probably would have saved myself a reset if I played around supports.

I sure as fuck didn't like Corrin, so don't give me that "AN AVATAR TO IMMERSE YOURSELF INTO THE STORY!" bullshit. All you did was just change the look of the main character's chat icons, nothing more.

There was nothing to immerse into Fates due to how horrible the storytelling was and how bad everything around it was as a result.

As far as Echoes goes, we don't know too much about it at this time, save for it being more or less gold at this point in time. If it does like Shadow Dragon and stays somewhat faithful to the original while modernizing other elements, it will likely be enjoyable. The fact that they're pulling amiibo out for it that is unique to the game speaks quite a bit about how confident they are in what they're offering, since the entire premise of amiibo is to release a product they expect to sell

>>no marriage system; Alm and Celica were a pair in the original game, if you don't like Celica, you're out of luck
>>no child units
>>no Pair Up
>>no petting or other notable features from My Castle

good.

I meant by the fact they said it had "earlier chapters", and if there's only 5 then only the first two or one would be considered "Early"

>this
The avatar just feels out of place anyway.
There aren't any real rpg elements to justify it.

>an Avatar to allow the player to immerse themselves in the story

The Tactician in FE7 was perfect, no special avatar bullshit.

Well, not him but I kinda do.

Not complete it in game, but after finishing it, I will always enjoy finding all the support dialogues to read them. Not only builds up the character but also enrichs the lore for me.

>tfw we will never get a Tellius prequel chronicling the rise and fall of Greil

I want brash cadet Titania in my life dammit

This
The tactician was great.

>tfw meeting with your old pals from Lyn's story

>no supports
>no marriage system
>no child units
>no pair up

preordered right the fuck now

>The Tactician in FE7 was perfect
he was garbage

Why this boxart is so comfy?

good thing I never self insert, so I can enjoy games with or without waifus.

So I assume the new weapon triangle and weapon rules are dropped as far as the trailer showcased?
That's actually one of the only things I really liked from Fates.

Are you calling yourself garbage?