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Fuck no

why not

ANOTHER GOD REJECTED

>ANOTHER

SMT 1&2 are fucking garbage wastes of time, especially 2

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Save the shit taste for the Persona threads, son.

Hey it's pascal the dog.

definitely a bit dated, but hardly bad...

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I'm just stating the obvious, they're shit games and anyone who believes otherwise is a delusional fanboy. Nocturne is literally miles better than both SMT 1&2 in every single way. The first two stories barely had anything to say other than hurrr the world needs a balance of good and evil. And don't even act like you beat them without a guide, it's beyond retarded in guiding you to your next destination, especially in 2.

I'd rather not.

I'll concede for its time it's ok, but I think there are much better RPGs that are older than both SMT 1&2, phantasy star 2 for example

WHEN'S SMT IF?
ANSWER ME GIDEON

When you learn to read Japanese :^)

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REMOVE MESSIAN

>No SMT1 remake where the Cathedral is still huge as fuck, but actually interesting to traverse now.

SMT 1 is engaging enough to compete with modern rpgs when you use the hack that binds the map to a single button

chaos wuz here
law r fags

DELET THIS

DELETE THIS

I think SMT1 is a lot better than 2, but I also think it's a bit of a stretch to say it can compete with modern RPGs. It still pales in comparison to nocturne in every way, and it's terribly unbalanced, you can damn near cheese your way through the entire game casting zio

I haven't played 2 but 1 is actually a trip if you let it immerse you and get absorbed into the first-person tile movement. The battles are lightning quick and I find myself playing more recent Atlus titles and wondering why the battles are so sloggy and shit.

Could you survive in a wurld of STR?

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>that one nocturnebaby that always shit up SMT 1 and 2 threads

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I don't really find it that immersive at all, especially with the bland as shit scenery. Literally everything looks the same, which I found annoying if anything. And I still had 10x more fun battling in nocturne than I did in either SMT 1 or 2

>especially 2

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SMT 1&2 deserve getting shit on. I wasted 110 hours of my life on both of these inferior pieces of trash

I'm hoping the SMT 3DS project is either a remake of SMT1/2 or Devil Survivor 3.

Of course, I really hope its the former.

2 is fucking boring until you get to go to the demon world. Tokyo Millenium sucks.

They're better than most modern RPGs, especially shitstains like Radiant Historia and Bravely Default.

I could honestly do with less Devil Survivor

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Nocturne >>>> 4A > 4 > 1 > SJ > 2

>364809387
not going to bother giving this a you

I'll never understand what people see in SMT games

Press-turn has to be the worst fucking battle system i've ever experienced in an RPG. 4 was hot garbage and I quit Nocturne after being told it was better than 4, but it felt exactly the same

sounds like you were too shit

What don't you like about the press-turn system?

>get 8 turns just by attacking weak spots and completely trivialize gameplay and throwing any semblance of strategy out the window

no thanks

>didn't play past the first boss

i beat law and neutral routes in 4

smirking is also broken

>played 4, the worst mainline SMT
Well, there's your problem.

>in 4
Well there's your problem.

Regardless, barely any bosses have weaknesses towards the end of 4. It sounds like you're talking out of your ass m8.

>fall for the "Nocturne is the best entry" meme

That fucking skill inheritance system.

Absolute garbage.

Devil Survivor 3 is the only reason I haven't killed myself

4A fixed the problems that 4 had

I haven't played 4, but I hear that you can save at any point in the game, and if that's true then it's a worthless piece of shit. Finish nocturne before you form an opinion of it, as I can guarantee that it's the pinnacle of the SMT series

You could save wherever you wanted in SJ with the right equipment and that's the best SMT ever made

SJ is the worst, right after 2.

here's the reply you so desperately crave

Please elaborate how this is not simply convenient instead of a reason to trash the game.

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Devil Survivor 3 will probably manage to be the reason you do kill yourself

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Takes all the challenge out of the game, there's an exciting tension in nocturne when traveling to a boss area or some destination, going through waves of enemies, being on your last legs almost there trying not to die before you make it to a save point. If you could save anywhere it'd be much less exciting

They will never nail dat atmosphere again, especially with a remake

It's exactly the same in 4 till you are 60% through the game and have tons of surplies and demons with healing anyway.
Being able to save anywhere doesn't magically make your recourses unlimited, it just means you might forget to do so infront bosses when getting cocky and paying for it.
Also that still doesn't stop random encounters from fucking you in one round after a mistake or random first strike for them because press point goes both ways and everything in 4 is paperthin.
And if you run out of mana halfway through a dungeon, have fun getting back out again and making it to a save haven, no amount of saving can change that.

How cute, i just wanna fuse him with a demon!

I didn't think it guaranteed unlimited resources, and I don't doubt that you can get wiped out in 1 round. But if you do you can just start off right where you died, or somewhere very close, which isnt exactly making the hairs on my neck stand. I've been 1 rounded in nocturne very deep into a run and it was crushing, but made the successful run all the more sweet

>tfw no SJ2

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You know for a post apocalypse, SMT IV actually doesn't have it that bad. The power is still on, the shelters are big enough, food is common, the arcades are still working.

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I think the idea is that it was really much worse at first.

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ANSWER THE CALL SON OF MAN!

>tfw Atlus keep ultra-jewing with fp+portraits 'its traditional' despite the ps2 games being more popular than anything elve they'd released

Blasted Tokyo demonstrated how fucked they would have been if the protective wall didn't go up in time.

Infernal Tokyo was also alright, but not so much if you were still a human.

I'm just gonna turn off my phone.

>despite the ps2 games being more popular than anything elve they'd released
except that's wrong. The SNES and the 3DS were the most successful platforms for SMT

But Akibahara is levelled.

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rip monkey

yeah it's great

Fuck you, you fucking faggot. Heres you're you I hope you choke on it

Dark areas are cancer.

Well as a normal person you have to stay in your shitty little subway station all day and can't poke your head out without getting murdered by religon.
You also have to rely on madmen, the mob and hunters to survive even in those shitholes.
Not the worst life but hey Tokyo was kind of saved afterall, you can imagine the rest of the world looking like Blasted Tokyo with angels running arround killing any humans and fiends on sight.

Trust this man.

But where will Isabeau get her Manga?

Is it safe to trust him?

Nice glasses, faggot.

>trusting anyone who wears a mask

3DS Project announcement fucking when

Ginza

In 4 it is. In Strange Journey he is a straight up villain.

nigga that's some celestial god sperm, not a man

I love Doi's new polygonal YHVH, but man Kaneko's old red-eyed YHVH is a great design too.

How much longer until Devil Children: Black Book's translation is released?

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>don't even act like you beat them without a guide

HEE HO!

What's NG+ like in Nocturne?

I'm having a fucking blast with SMT2
It improves some things about 1 and the soundtrack is still as fucking rad as 1

That's Nocturne though. Its not even a SMT game.