>watch people play this shit on twitch
>literally dark souls clone
>everyone is calling it samurai souls
>b-but muh stances
>every streamer literally sits in one stance, never switches it
>boss looks like an early souls boss and is piss easy
>almost no exploration because every path ends after 5 yards
>like 4 or 5 weapon types only
>estus gives you only 3 charges
Wow great souls clone there sony, sure makes me want to buy a PS4... not.
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I tried the demo and absolutely hated it.
good for you man.
I think I'll reconsider liking video games after that great objective analysis.
I'm playing it right now for the first time and I have to tell you, as someone who absolutely hates the premise and love Dark Souls, it really plays nothing like Dark Souls.
If those streamers aren't switching stances they fucking suck at the game.
There are five melee weapon types and two projectile types plus guardian attacks, ninjutsu and unarmed.
For each type of weapon there are plenty of different versions.
The combat is MUCH deeper than Dark Souls.
>they suck at the game
>despite beating it
Okay buddy. Nice autism.
You think people can't beat games they suck at?
Are you retarded?
you arent a true souls fag if you havent played bloodborne
>watch people play this shit on twitch
>judges it entirely on how other faggots are playing it
nu-Sup Forums at it's finest
Can you beat dark souls when you suck at it? Oh no...
>I can only watch people play this game, b-but I'm sure it's not good
Yeah, you can.
Best Friends have proven that about every Souls game they've played.
You just grind and level. Upgrade the most OP weapon.
Put points into the right stats. Looks up builds and stats, etc...
Yeah
i don't really switch stances within a fight, but its a nice option to have. usually stick to middle stance for trash mobs and high stance for yokai and bosses. i only use low stance for those crawling zombie fuckers because i can't hit them otherwise
other than that, yeah, i'd agree with saying its a souls clone, but i'm ok with that since i like souls games and like the jap setting. one thing you did leave out is the mmo-like loot system where drops have randomized extra attributes. not sure i like it, but whatever.
no idea why people get so defensive about the soulsborne comparisons, it clearly draws heavily from the serious and its retarded to say otherwise
Phantoms
It is a souls clone, obviously. But I liked what I saw in the demo. Gonna play it some more before the time is over.
Of course
It's nothing like Souls games.
The stance switch is just a new meme. It doesn't really need to be there. But it's nice to have I guess
>playing demo on Youtube
Sasuga, pcturds. But, hey, at least you had a privilege of paying $400 for graphics card.
>The stance switch is just a new meme
I don't think you know what that word means.
Stance Switching used to matter. Now it only matters for 2kat since 2kat is literally just 3 stances of
>SLASH (FASTER)
>SLASH
>SLASH (HARDER)
And therefore your playstyle changes little to none from stance swapping and you can just use it to regain a bit of extra ki
The rest of the weapons though you find whatever stance works best against that particular enemy and stay in it. For example using anything other than Lowstance against that samurai nigger w/the chain weapon was suicide. But with the quick beatdowns you could just wait for him to do either his absolutely retarded flurry or dodge behind his single slash and rape his bum. I managed it with a below-average weapon and shitty armor + 4 elixirs.
This game really is shallow now. In the Alpha it was fantastic, but they've nonstop nerfed the game so retards could play it.
No i do. It's just gonna be said time and time again to make the game appear different from souls but it's really not.
Actually, I completely forgot. High Stance chain weapon DID have a purpose, you could pull him twice with the grapple move and then get a free hit in for about 600-700 damage, but only a single hit because after he just blocks every attack.
Other than that, though, low stance for the rapidfire attacks was the best way to deal with him.
Reminder DSP beat every dark souls
DSP is also former EVO champion.
But... Souls don't have weapon stances.
DSP is also bad at all games now
>OP never played Onimusha.
fetus
Uh, no?
Making it to the tournament does not make him a champion.
he didn't beat Bloodborne. he gave up at Ludwig.
What's the deal with Onimusha? I don't remember it being anything special.
>It doesn't really need to be there.
Go fuck off
It's needed for those enemies who suddenly become crawlers or high stances to break defence quicker
>weapons have actual move sets instead of r1 spam:the game
> same as souls
it's fun
>watching Twitch
>Everyone memes about how much harder this game is than souls
>Get to Ogress
>Beat her first try
>watch people play this shit on twitch
>Watching others play games
The future of videogames couldn't be brighter.
Doing so gives you ki burst to clear demon realm and stamina recharge if you time your stance changes right.
It's very much worthwhile to learn your combos properly and timing of stance changes.
>mini map
And D R O P P E D. No self respecting Soulser (souls gamer) would buy or play this piece of shit. No mini map is core foundation of true souls games. I'd rather play Bloodborne again for the 30th time, only reason I got a PS4 is Bloodborne. FUCK NIOH.
>No self respecting Soulser (souls gamer)
Kill yourself
>No self respecting Soulser
Nioh cuck mad. Top fucking kek. Eat shit mini map nigger casual. You will never be a Soulser.
I hate this fucking game, but you're just as cancerous as the faggots that call them Soulsborne game.
Fucking slit your throat please.
as somebody that tried Demon Souls when it was still knew, beaten Bloodborn and couldn´t be bothered to finish Dark Souls 3 I gotta say that this is what Dark Souls should have been
the combat is deep, actually allows very different ways to beat this game and even has ways to fight against several enemies at once while still being fun
fresh new meme. nice.
>knew
why can't the guy run? He stumbles every 2 steps is this just how it is?
I must just not understand this game. I can barely get past a few enemies and 2 simple enemies give me a ton of trouble. They really should have had this demo ease you in - the tutorial is utterly worthless.
It plays nothing like Onimusha which makes me think you never played it either.
we need more dark souls clones, not less
>People will be calling a game the dark souls of dark souls clones
reminds me more of onimusha series. movement and attack are similar to each other
Weebs cant make a good fame to save their lives, just give up on making games and leave it to the superior devs
I don't mind the consolewarring shitposting but user please don't pretend you're the kind of cancer that actually watches streamers we're already getting fucked by Poe's Law hard enough.
Just like BB, use the axe.
Seriusly I though it was hard when I was trying to use the katana and spear but then I notice a giant fucking axe and it's much easier.
t. I died to the first bandit
You make me feel bad, user.
I'm sortof mostly okay at Souls but I'm so shit at this.
Guess I have to wait for WotS 5 or a western release of Ishin for my samurai kicks ;_;
pc cucks ladies and gentlemen
this is why buying a ps4 is a better choice
It's pretty fucking annoying how getting hit once in this guarantees 2-3 more hits until you die without able to do anything.
>watch Maximilian Dood play Nioh
>every other message in his chat is people demanding a PC port
>port begging is literally twitch chat-tier
Really made me think
Beat Jwong at SF2
Souls is already fucking garbage only NeoGAF casuals love. I have no idea why people would want a bad clone OF it.
It's so... no idea... Incredible.
>watching strangers play video games with shitty audio and video quality and retarded sounds playing every time someone subscribes
Just kill yourself
Nioh is amazing. It's literally the git gud game of the year, anyone who shits on it is a shitter
Don't get hit. This isn't some faggot game where there's little or no consequences for playing poorly.
Pay attention, do well, and there are no problems.
This is going to be a terrible year for git gud games then.
>people that are terrible at Nioh keep shitposting instead of just playing a different game
do people on this board even realize how pathetic they sound?
>the combat is deep
stunlocks and a whopping 1 additional button press at the end of a combo to let you keep stunlocking
>deep
Because you can play a clone of an already shitty series.
>being this bad
Deserved it for backing into a dead end
What a fucking noob
>Ogress is a huge let down
>Samurai Jack is hard until you realize he leaves himself wide open after his whirlwind and his single weeabooslash
>Niohfags realized their game isn't hard at all and starting false-flagging posts with "WOW I DIED 100000 TIMES TO HUMAN ENEMY, GAME SO HARD, THANKS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY" to save face
>They thought I would fall for it
The games combat is so shallow even DSP could beat it-oh wait he already did
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>until you realize he leaves himself wide open after his whirlwind and his single weeabooslash
What the hell do you want, a literally unbeatable boss fight so you can say "I played a hard game!"? Of course there are openings, how would you beat him otherwise?
ITT: Cucks
Smh
I haven't played this game, but is dying from that second hit which appeared to connect 4 feet to the right of the player considered to be normal?
No but it's very rare. Dodges move you a lot and give you invincibility frames so as long as you time dodges correctly it's never an issue. Also that enemy has shockwave-type attacks so it's not a stretch to think that his staff has a small aoe when he slams it down.
>fighting the samurai man
>he combos me, survive with a slither of health
>he does the riposte thing and overkills me before I can move
Never have I been more annoyed yet accepting of death. If I get hit I just assume I've died and hope for the best.
Long time Soulster here (it means Souls gamer guyize) and I think Nioh is boring. It's a linear hack n slasher.
Cherrypicked webm that appears in many bloodborne threads. Rare occurence, some sort of hitbox fuckery.
Dark Souls has heavy shields that can tank pretty much every boss aside from Manus, who is optional.
>literally dark souls clone
Good, moreso In a year without a Souls game.
> No self respecting Soulser
kys my man
I know people are going to say MUH SHOCKWAVES but in truth if the hitbox for that move was really a tiny narrow rectangle that enemy wouldn't be a threat and they aren't going to give him a staff that is 4 feet thick so they just make it a fuckhuge hitbox which makes autists mad when they fail to dodge correctly
The way you usually beat those guys is by shooting them mid-swing, they have massive parry windows, so massive that you can usually get them 95% of the time even if your parry game blows.
You played ? I don't think so m8
It's like dark souls but difficult in all the wrong ways.
Sour grapes
Hello, DSP
Why is the William dude a white bake gaijin?
He wanted to go to Akiba to buy some moe loli doujins but realized he showed up way too early and is now killing monsters and shit for fun.
So I beat the boss and the game said I unlocked shit. I could access it from the main menu, so I did and I unlocked a mark of the warrior. The other one is called Mark of conqueror and I get an error when I wanna unlock this via psn? It's right there, "press square to unlock" yet I get this error. What gives?
teh game plays NOTHING like onimusha at all, there is literally nothing similar in terms of structure or gameplay
stop saying this shit just because SAMURAI AND DEMONS
People that are tournament level good at fighting games are often complete dogshit at other genres. This is based on the fact that they spend most of their time autistically practicing the same few games, so their overall skill at everything else is almost non existent. DSP is proof of this; he even admits that he sat out a bunch of generations, since he was too busy with SF. It's really obvious that he never adapted to 3D games at all.
If you hold block you can usually shorten their combos by a hit or two, and blocking is crazy good, good enough that you shouldn't get guard broken.
I think people have Bloodborne Syndrome and think blocking in this game is just trash when its just as broken as having a decent stability shield in DaS1. I hardly see anyone using it.
Only visuals with fantasy Japan match.
Rest is different.
I agree about the stance switching, it is completely inconsequential, like fucking Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, etc. Only BB had a decent stance system because of how tricking worked but even then it was shit.
I'm not sure why they make a 3d fighting game and than not look to fighting games for how to do a proper stance/grip system such as Johnny's Mistfiner, SC2 Ivy/Nightmare, or Lei Wulong.
None of these games will ever have good combat no matter how "deep" they attempt to make it, because they focus on all the wrong things even though the basic combat is capable of something great I believe. Nioh is no different, it's a big step up from Souls, a small step up from BB, but still shit compared to what it could be.
>it is completely inconsequential
>stance switching
Except it isn't? Different stances are useful in different situations.
Did you even play the demos?
>side content
Doesn't take away from Phil beating the main game. He also fought Ludwig in NG+.
You don't need them at all and they're not implemented well in the slightest. Did you play the loketests?
>You don't need them
That's like saying you don't need weapons in Souls because you can do a fist only run.
>they're not implemented well in the slightest
Care to explain why?
Do i get anything for beating this demo like with the alpha and beta?
You can't switch stances properly (just like it's inspiration) for it to be consequential or really add anything to the combat beyond the most basic modal shit imaginable.
Combined with the fact you don't need them, it's really hard to even justify their inclusion as is.
Look at the examples I mention, that's how you do proper stance combat.
You get a thing if you beat the main mission and keep the save data.