ITT: """Villains""" who did nothing wrong

ITT: """Villains""" who did nothing wrong

DESIGNATED

SALVATION

Also, ''allies'' who are actually just giant asshats

Not being able to fuse Dagda was a crime

>Literally no way to join him

Would have been a fun alternative to Maximum edge vs Persona lite.

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I wish I could follow him without killing off the party, Nozomi and friends ranged from okay to insufferable but they ddin't deserve to die. Wish I could have calmly explained I was gonna make shit better permanently and if they didn't like that they could just walk away. Dagda had the right idea but he was a little too much of a cunt.

Also
>Steven doesn't give a fuck when you choose the genocide route and even throws the remaining humans against you to die just to see how you'll respond

I thought he was a completely good guy all this time too

EGGS

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Poo in the loo was shit.

Odin was the true gangster. That's why he's going to be important in HD Project.

Stephen is above Law and Chaos, he's the only human who's truly transcended. His type of Neutral is unique.

If you want to believe the Messiah's in the Diamond Realm DLC, he's significantly stronger than YHVH and Lucifer because he's traveled through so many universes.

Didn't Mido and St. Germain also transcend?

Yes, though they are gameplay mechanics rather than real characters.

All this while I thought he was an all-benevolent guy, seems like he just wants gods and demons to fuck off too

He likes to observe "interesting" things. Those people that shape and recreate universes. Basically, the MCs in all SMT games.

His alignment is Science.

So its pretty much confirmed this guy is the antagonist for the new SMT?

They were never going to walk away. They were going to murder you because they disagreed with you. Their every action proved that Dagda was right.

He might not even be an antagonist, who knows. He has more of a sense of honor and was more relatable than Pajeet, at least.

This.
I always find it funny when people say Apocalypse favors the Bonds ending because of this.
The Massacre ending pretty much shows that Dagda was right about Nanashi's friends: they don't really care about him, deep down.
Besides, the only one who actually shows a bit of regret for fighting you is fucking Gaston, of all people.

I wouldn't be so sure about it.
For all we know he might be an ally in SMTV, or that is what I hope he will be.

I think the only one that didn't care about you were the monly and that witch Nozomi.
Nozomi and Danu were the real villains of apocalypse.

that's the truth

Honestly, that little speech of her was when I decided I would never follow her.
Dagda might not be the ideal route, but it is far better than being this much of a defeatist.

go back to faggot

Asahi cares, she was just dead at the time. Honestly, I don't think Nanashi could ever bring himself to hurt her or vice versa, so Genocide route might not have even been an option if she were alive.

Toki fights because that's what she does, it's what she's done all her life. You were actually the aggressor in that fight. Kill your friends, boyo. She was heartbroken as fuck but didn't mind as much since it was you who killed her.

Navarre, Nozomi and Gaston felt super betrayed and totally wanted you dead, though. To some degree I guess they wanted to snap you out of it, since you're supposed to be Akira.

Isabeau never really gave a shit, you were in her way when you sided with Dagda.

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What is the context of this again?

why do they even think they can beat him. Like were they not paying attention the whole game when i killed multiple gods?

>Asahi cares, she was just dead at the time.

Doesn't Asahi abandon you if you side with Lucifer, though?
She is just a parasite, like Gaston said. She doesn't really care about you, she is only leeching you to give herself strength.

>To some degree I guess they wanted to snap you out of it, since you're supposed to be Akira.

Nah, they only wanted to lower your guard and kill you, as we can see with Nozomi.
Deep down they were always your enemies, Dagda only forced this truth to be revealed.

>To some degree I guess they wanted to snap you out of it, since you're supposed to be Akira
Only gaston, Navarre and hallelujah were like that Nozomi was going to blow your brains out with no hesitation the moment you reach out to her after her """""""""""""""""""plight"""""""""""""""""""

They were the impression that it was a team effort.

Because they all just got power ups and it's 6v1. Except that 1 has demons. And has done all of the meaningful fighting up to that point. So yeah, it was retarded, but Nanashi was also the aggressor in that fight, if they didn't defend themselves he'd kill them anyways to make the new universe.

You do 95% of the work but the game implies it was a team effort

They honestly thought the power of friendship is what brought them that far in the story, when in reality it was thanks to Dagda's power opening a path.
Nanashi wouldn't even be alive if it wasn't for Dagda.

Yeah, I should have put Nozomi down with Isabeau.

Left or right?

Was he really wrong?

>childhood friend or some weird obsessive assassin

GEE I FUCKING WONDER

I like doggo and all but Toki makes me doki doki.

Some weird obsessive assassin with a great ass. Who wears tight black clothing every day.

I'm not understanding this
We collective enjoy our lives from the mere fact we're tethered to the mortal coil.
The moment we ascend to a new state is the moment we stop being human.

Sometimes it's better to be the follower and blissfully unaware than to participate in a dick-wave contest.

>I dunno, ya'll niggas need to read The Mysterious Stranger

Toki, I know Asahi has good heals (at least after you get her awakening power). But its nothing I wouldn't rather have Navarre or Isabeau for.

Toki on the other hand is great for getting through trash quicker and dealing physical damage to bosses she can't insta kill.

I want a proper YHVH true villain path.

I liked IVA for that but it seems a little tonned down