Why does fuck does EVERY fucking game need a final boss battle?

Why does fuck does EVERY fucking game need a final boss battle?

You'd think we'd have gotten past this trope.

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because it's fun

How else would you finish the game?

Go back to bed Casey Hudson.

It's the fault of those people that still call themselves "gamers." The same kind that go out with minecraft shirts and shit.

Not every game has final boss battles.

Boss battles are fun.

What's the matter? Too videogamey for you?

Most games don't have one anymore because of fucks like you. More games NEED a final boss battle.

Because action games build to a final climax much like action movies do the same, where the protagonist generally fights a final boss or enemy of some kind.

also it's fun

Nigga Boss Battles are the fucking awesome

especially the ones where the big bad dude turns into a xbox hueg DRAGON

>using Comic Sans in an AAA game

Jesus Christ Nintendo

are you that whale from bioware that wanted a "skip gameplay" function in VIDEO GAMES

kill yourself

Because it's fun, just because some things gets old and needs to be replaced sometimes doesn't mean everything get's old, quit trying fix what isn't broken and stop ruining video games

The question is, why the fuck does every Zelda game have that tennis part.

The problem isn't boss battles. The problem is really shitty boss battles.

Stop playing games with shitty boss battles.
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who fucking cares, the whole comic sans shit is ridiculous. people act like it's the worst thing they have ever seen each time

it's a fucking font you faggots

its an ugly font

>fonts can't look bad
I honestly don't know what the fuck you're trying to communicate. Go assassinate yourself, you bumbling retard.

it's a completely average font that's just overused, people react way to strongly to something that doesn't matter in the slightest

>getting this triggered over a shitty internet meme

w e w

im not saying fonts can't look bad or that comic sans doesn't look bad, im just sick of there always being someone that comments on how horrible it is when it's used somewhere

And the problem with that is shit gameplay with zero depth makes it impossible to create interesting boss fights.

The people that whine about how all boss fights are boring shit are usually casuals that only play cinematic garbage (ie journalists, neofags, reddit).

>final boss battle is only QTE's

Fuck Shadow of Mordor, Dying Light, and others that do this.

Boss battles are good.
But a little variation would be better. What if the player is the boss and the final battle pits you against a lot of enemies, instead of one superpowered enemy.

Also, a lot of action movies have a boss fight. Lots of stories, in general, have a great fight against a final, supreme opponent. An ultimate challenge for the hero to overcome.

calmer than you are

Am I missing something? That's not Comic Sans.

You're right, boss battles are too videogamey, they just like, promote, like, the "male fantasy". Those and the climactic parts of action movies trigger me, no one should be allowed to enjoy them.

i agree. i fucking hate it when my interactive movie gets too video gamey.

When you think of it, all boss battles are QTEs. Sometimes you just can't see the prompts.

all platformers are QTEs but you just can't see the prompts :^)

Off topic but TP's final battle was the greatest in the series. 4 forms of glory. Just when you thought it was over, HE'S BACK BITCHES.

I'd rather have control of my character in a boss fight than be handheld through it by the developer who doesn't know how to finish their game in a way that doesn't include PRESS X NOW TO NOT DIE.

So is this a shitty opinion thread?

if your game is built around combat, then yes you usually need it

usually in other genres like racing or puzzles you dont get a final boss tho, same goes for a few action games here and there, depends on the plot and ending you wanna make

Half-Life 2: Episode 2 did it very well.

You finally meet up with your scientist buddies and they give you a special ball of death to launch at a bunch of striders and hunters trying to kill you all. I loved it

I liked Wind Waker's a lot more, or at least the final FINAL part of it since the combat feels more fast paced and the arena with Hyrule Flooding is fucking cool as opposed to just Hyrule field with some magic barriers, plus, TP Ganon is piss easy. but the music is fucking great.

>Why does fuck does EVERY fucking game need a final boss battle?

Play more AAA shit OP. Here's a couple: How about that final boss in Uncharted 3 (fighting regular enemies) or 4 (QTE sword fight!). The final bosses in Call of Duty games are pretty cool, except they never existed. How about that final boss in Bioshock Infinite, because defending a power core from a bunch of enemies sure is a final boss.

not every game needs it, but pretty much every good game has it

It provides the gameplay with a climax to match the plot. Cinematic FPSes like Battlefield and CoD don't have bosses, and their endings are massive anticlimaxes because of it.

That's the most 9gag meme of all time.
Like yeah what's so bad about a font so popular Stan Lee and your mom use them?

fuck you man, that final boss was hype as fuck

This is the most satisfying video game trope..

Here's another thinker for you
Why did Midna destroy the mirror? Considering it's been around for god knows how long and wasn't an issue until this point, why did she go ahead and break the mirror?

The only reason that I can see is so that the story has a bitter sweet ending rather than a pleasant one where the people in the twilight realm go back to Hyrule and coexist peacefully or something like that.

Literally the only reason was, like so many other parts of the game, to brute force a "dark" tone to the game where it didn't fit. Much like the nightmare sequence with Ilia.

>First time playing through Nocturne
>Got the normal demon ending
>No Kagutsuchi fight
>No Lucifer fight
>Just "Fuck you, go away," roll to credits.

It's a tumblr meme.

So bioshock infinite? Where a game just ends and has a cinematic since they can't into good storytelling and just cop out?

2>1>>>>>>infinite

Because it's the best single part of most games.
I understand that you are probably more a fan of movie games and cinematic experiences offered by sony and these video games here are just a little bit TOO much like video games and so that turns you off.
Well my friend, for people like you who have special taste (and special needs) we got the board just for you and it's called

Because it's the climax of the game, hence you fight the strongest enemy. Fuck off with your shitty bait.

>when you have to use your able-bodied privilege to get past the trope of a "final boss" to advance the story and rescue an objectified, damseled woman to use her body as a reward

Can we just not have this rapey misogynistic content in 2017 ugh?

>Fun battle with your warband of orcs
>Nice battle against that one guy that blinks around
>qte final

>Fun climbing the tower
>Using all your resources and cool weapons
>QTE

It just leaves such a shitty taste in your mouth, why goddamnit.

I know, uuh... god they're just so... Video Gamey...

I know right? MGS1, 2, 3 and 4 all ended terribly.
MGSV however, now THAT is how a game should end!

>able-bodied privilege
A lot of games introduced difficulty settings for people with mental disabilities.

What final bosses?

This whole fucking generation has had a lack of final bosses outside of RPGs.

Because otherwise the game would just end out of nowhere, are you retarded? Imagine doing some random little mission thing or just fighting random enemies like all throughout the game, and then the ending cutscene plays plus credits.

Final boss is a climax.
Why the fuck wouldn't you want that?

>Kane and Lynch 2

Do you even know how Comic Sans looks?

>complain about game not having story
>complain about game having final boss
Hope Sup Forums isn't one person because that's fucking retarded.

What game ? I wanna fight that dragon

>when you're playing on easiest but it's still possible to get "killed" (a form of rape) due to the male-oriented control scheme

A lot of developers seriously need to rethink their priviledged game designs

Final boss battles are a problematic trope because they cause ludonarrative dissonance and disconnect the player from the game emotionally. Boss characters are also often white males which reinforces misogynistic stereotypes and racist ethnocentric systems of power. Many progressive indie titles have done away with this archaic and gamey feature in favor of more richly crafted narrative endings such as the protagonist having a conversation with her rivals in order to find an equitable outcome to the conflict.

It would be like playing Rage all over again.

>Wanting to get rid of a trope just for the sake of it
Dumb postmodernposters

I've got a question for you guys.

How do you actually do a final boss that is a humanoid in a realistic setting?

In sci-fi or fantasy you could do crazy shit and make it interesting, but if your main antagonist is a human how do you design a fight where you don't just shoot him in the face?

The closest example I can think of that isn't completely terrible is MW1 and MW2, but they contain some elements of QTE still.

Tell me, anons, how the fuck do we fix this?

What else makes for a suitable climax in an interactive medium? If its an other cut-scene then you should have just made a movie.

are really asking what the point of having a climax is? Whats the point of having an orgasm after sex?


fuck off OP, your desire to be different is way too strong.

Fistfighting.

Darksiders.

It's his first form. Second form is not Sepiroth.

A badass, action-packed final level? Would probably work better in a game that isn't story-focused.

You're a fucking faggot to be honest.

Watch the movie Equilibrium.

The final boss gunfight in that will bring you to tears.

Halo 1 is my favourite example of this.

there are a ton of games that dont have one, and have a difficult last mission instead or something like this

also as many others have said, its the climax, you dont play the games just for their story do you?

You are nothing but trash.

>go down a corridor and get off dungeon through a door.

>the end


Gee, I wonder why don't make games this FUN.

FFXV doesn't have one.

Only problem with that is if the big baddie still needs to be killed.

I think Watch Dogs 1 did this. The last mission was insanely hard and it was intended that the city was the boss, but when you reached the bad guy it was pretty much a QTE to clean him up. Probably better the other way around.

Worked for MGS1 to 4. Although I guess MGS hardly counts as "realistic."

>How do you actually do a final boss that is a humanoid in a realistic setting?
Bare-handed brawls to the death are pretty climatic. Shit, every climax should be a bare-handed fist fight regardless.

Punching stuff in the face is the epitome of badass. Fighting a dragon to death? Cool. PUNCHING a dragon to death? Fucking awesome.

>every Zelda game has that tennis part
>OoT, TWW, TP, ALttP
Yep. Every Zelda game.

Fuck off, Bioware.

It's easy, and for western devs who just aspire to make cinematic games, animating some cool action sequence makes for a compelling game, in their mind.

>meet the evil that's been tormenting you all game, he's trying to end life as everyone knows it
>if you fail, the world is doomed
>he is in some sort of god mode or in control of an ancient beast or massive robot
>instead of fighting him you just leave, realizing that fighting is wrong or that it wouldn't be worth it to fight
>the world is doomed
>the end

Calm down more then faggot

Name a AAA Western game with a good final boss.

Go on, I'll wait.

>Get a PS4 and Uncharted Collection for Christmas
>Play Uncharted 1
>That final battle on the boat

god damn that was awful.

Name a good game that doesn't have a final boss or something similar.

Hint: You can't.

Why not both?

So basically youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw

The only thing more fun than boss battles is Boss Rush Mode

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And even then, with cinematic stuff, there is still the villain, so it's not like it could be used as an excuse.

>final boss or something similar
>something similar
Define that first.

Was made with Nintendo's guidance, doesn't count.

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>Furi
>AAA