This is my Super Mario Sunshine disc. Every time I try to play it...

This is my Super Mario Sunshine disc. Every time I try to play it, it crashes after the courtroom scene in the beginning. I've tried alcohol, micro fiber cloth, etc., but non of these methods worked.
Should I just swallow my pride and emulate instead?
Or buy a new one from Amazon because I'm not a filthy goddamn criminal?

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check scratches on the label side

the data is closer to the label side

Have you tried spraying it with furniture polish?

This seems like a good thread to ask this: some of my 360 discs have small clear spots on the disk which renders them unreadable, i never leave them outside the case and there are no scratches or any other damage, is there any way keep this from happening?

Try blowing on it

Better off using eBay, Amazon will just rip you off for second-hand shit.

Use car polish. And polish it from center to edges, in/out motions.
Never in circles.

You're welcome

turn the console 360 degrees horizontally

Optical discs are cheaply made crap and manufacturing imperfections cause this to happen after just a few years in some cases. The data is gone and there's nothing you can do but buy a new copy.

I have a copy of the Twin Snakes where the paint on the top is basically flaking off. The game still works but I'm really worried that it won't for much longer.

Does anyone know a good way to seal it back up? I've heard clear nail polish would work.

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Half the UMDs I owned had the clear plastic separate from the white plastic.

You own the game, there's nothing wrong with piracy to preserve/keep playing what you own.

And yea, I reccomend dolphin. If your pc is beefy enough you can even use a 60fps patch.

Does this count?

Just emulate it. You can have it running at 60 FPS, 1440p, widescreen in ten minutes.

If you've got a Wii you could try ripping or downloading the disc and playing it off a hard drive.

>b-but my physical copy!
anti-digital distribution friends BTFO

Ive saved dozens of games using plain white toothpaste. Seriously

Is this a better angle? I'm trying to show as many imperfections as possible.

this happened to my family guy dvds when i was 8. i thought it was because i left them in the case and put the case inbetween my TV and ps2 and they got heated up or something. Turns out sometimes discs just fucking rot for no reason.

jesus

try everything on it that you tried on the other side, if it doesn't fix it then it's fucking gone man

Post a clearer picture of the center area straight on, not at an angle.
It looks like your disc might be pretty fucked but it's hard to tell.

Okay, but just so you know, I just woke up.

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well theres your problem

>Or buy a new one from Amazon because I'm not a filthy goddamn criminal?

You already bought it, why would emulating it be criminal?
You know you can use emulators to read the discs you actually own? Emulation isn't always downloading ripped files and roms.
It's even possible to get a setup that lets dolphin read gamecube discs in a cdrom drive

It would be a shame if there's one less Mario Sunshine disc in the world but you can always just use a wii/u and nintendont. Its got all the benefits of playing on console and some of the benefits of emulation.

if you download a ROM while you have a physical copy yourself it is not a crime

>hair
C-cute!!!

>I've tried alcohol, micro fiber cloth, etc., but non of these methods worked.
Keep drinking more alcohol until you no longer care about playing it.

Optical disks have always been a trash format and the nostalgia for them baffles me.
Magnetic media is actually a much better experience.
Really though, we should've moved to flash cards already for physical games. It's the correct format.

I know that feel my man. Disc 2 for skies of arcadia never worked again for me. I've been forced to use shitty emulated versions with really bad sound quality.

IT'S LEGAL TO EMULATE IF YOU OWN THE BASE PRODUCT RETARD

Disk rot is a killer, but the real degrading issue over time is rotational velocidensity - as a disk spins, the bits are pushed edgewards ever so slightly. Now the laser that reads the data is broad enough to catch them anyway, and we're talking microns here, but eventually with enough use it will happen to any disk. An obvious fix would be to rotate the reader around the disk, but that raises other issues of course.

My Skies of Arcadia is like brand new and has barely been touched.

>disc rot
hoo boy.

These, you moralfag

Got any used game/retro game stores in the area? Or know anyone with a disc buffer?

Because you could definitely try taking off that top layer. I mean, if that doesn't work, I'd say it's fucked.

Alcohol/microfiber/etc. are only good for dust, hand oils, etc., easy shit. If you have a deep scratch or gash in the disc, try buffing and pray.

Intredasting. Is this why games are installed now and the disc is basically just your license pass, or is it just DRM shit to give publishers control over distribution? Both?

I really like the Switch for going back to carts.

It's because of what you said but also because they want loading times to be faster.
But yes, they also want to limit reliance on the disc so it will work as long as you don't uninstall it.

Even if I wanted to emulate, my computer is in the shop for a couple of weeks my mom accidentally downloaded some malware
Besides, I've got a $40 Amazon gift card from Christmas that I haven't used yet.

It's not technically legal to download a copy, even if you own your own legal copy already.

No, you can always download. It's completely legal to download almost anything.
What's illegal is uploading you dummy. Which is why people can be caught for torrents.

Get a cheap wii and softmod it to play gamecube games from a usb drive or sd card.

>put Ikaruga disk upside down so that it doesn't scratch
>leave it alone for a while because of other things to do
>senile grandmother goes to clean the tv with windex
>windex droplets get on the disk and ikaruga is now unplayable
this was 10 years ago and it still upsets me

>I've tried alcohol, micro fiber cloth, etc.

The surface of the disc still looks dirty. If it's like a music CD, you can wash those things with soap and water. Just make sure you dry the thing off with a microfiber cloth or something that doesn't have abrasive particles in it.

If you have a scratch in it, floor polish such as Mop 'n' Glo sometimes works. The Mop 'n' Glo trick worked with laserdiscs and I believe it works with CDs, too.

that kinda depends where you live. different laws and all that shit, but yea generally downloading for your own use is legal, but uploading or selling said content is not.

Rub toothpaste in a circular pattern on the disc for a minute, and then was ALL of the toothpaste off with water and dry the disc.

It has a slight abrasive on it that will help with scratch, but it's also not course enough to damage it (like how it doesn't damage your teeth)

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Not OP, but what would you recommend using to rub the toothpaste? Have some games that have reading issues because previous owner(s) used those as shoes or something.

Damn. What's the required specs to run sunshine with those patches?

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Hard to say, but at minimum I would say you need a recent-ish intel (AMD is very slow on dolphin) i5 with a dedicated gpu around as good as a 950/960 or something around that range.

>Optical disks have always been a trash format and the nostalgia for them baffles me.

Optical discs are great and highly reliable. The only reason they're failing now is because money-grubbing companies are using cheap-shit manufacturing with no quality.

A properly-made optical disc should be hermetically sealed between two layers of plastic. Many optical discs skimp on the top layer (the side with the label) and thus the recording medium is exposed to scratches and other damage. Furthermore, many modern discs are not encapsulated very well and thus can oxidize.

If you notice, many optical discs are now pressed in low-quality shit holes like Mexico.

I have old optical discs (laserdisc, compact disc, and DVD) that are over 20 years old and work great. The common denominator? They were all manufactured in the U.S.A. or Japan.

It remains to be seen how long the optical discs I have from Mexico last. I'm not holding my breath.

I usually just use my finger, I am sure you could use a paper towel or something else.

It works pretty well, you may have to run through another cycle if it doesn't work the first time

>holding up US manufacturing as a gold standard

Don't use toothpaste except as a last resort. There are products out there for rubbing out scratches and abrasions on optical discs that are less abrasive than toothpaste.

Put some peanut butter on there and freeze it.

>Even if I wanted to emulate, my computer is in the shop for a couple of weeks my mom accidentally downloaded some malware
Underage fuck off.

desu tried toothpaste once, didn't do much. but then again i didn't spent much time rubbing. might as well try again. is like what could go wrong. thanks.

If you're an American, you should be ashamed of yourself for being so stupid.

The truth of American manufacturing is this: It is true that many American-made good are not the very best in quality when compared to the top-end premium products. However, overall, most American-made products are pretty good, most certainly better than shit from Mexico or China.

However, when the U.S. tries, the quality of its goods are very rarely matched by any country on the planet. You have to know what to look for and you have to be able to afford the products.

Some things that I have good experience in where U.S. made goods are far superior to others: coins from the U.S. Mint, Snap-on, certain military gear, software, guns (I do admit that Germany and Switzerland make very fine guns, too), trucks.

Take it to a used game store or something and pay them to buff it out. It's cheap considering how well it works.

Pretty sure they sell those DIY ones too. DiscDoctor or something.

Toothpaste scratches the shit out of a disc but since it does work sometimes, is it a result of polishing something out or is it a result of something like scratching it enough to change the errors enough that the drive's error correction handles it properly again?

If you have a Wii you can install homebrew and use a program called USB Loader GX to rip the disc and play the ISO, or if it won't rip you can just download a second ISO and it will run natively on the wii perfectly

>military, guns, trucks

I have GC discs that are splitting and cracked from the middle and still work flawlessly. What did you do?

It's a matter of evening out the gouge that comprises the scratch so that the light does not refract as badly.

I had also forgotten to mention steel and knives. The American-made Leatherman knives are pretty awesome. The Chinese-made Leatherman knives are pretty shitty especially considering the price.

Why the fuck did she send it to a shop? Are you telling me you don't know how to install Malwarebytes and do a quick scan or even reformat if the computer was REALLY fucked up?

All American cars a trash (including trucks). Japanese cars far outclass American shitmobiles.

>not having a Wii and playing the games with virtual memory card and HID controllers on Nintendont

This is one of the saddest parts of America losing so much of its manufacturing. Given the option, I would always buy American-made over any other source, barring the few things another country is especially notable for.

>All American cars a trash (including trucks).

I personally don't like trucks and have never owned one. However, speaking to people who do own American-made trucks, they are very high quality. The people I've spoken to haul tons of stuff in their trucks and drive them over 250,000 miles without any problems.

The Japanese cars are pretty good quality although many of them are now assembled in the U.S. using parts made in Mexico. Most certainly, they are not as good in quality as the stuff Japan was churning out in the 1980s although manufacturing technology has improved quite a bit from that time, which improves quality even when there are monkeys on the assembly line.

Nintendo doesn't even sell the game on the Virtual Console or remastered on the Wii U, why would you avoid to download a shitty 1GB file so much? (because Sunshine fucking sucks)

This is what I do: I will buy the American product if it is high quality and something I can afford. I will not buy high-priced American shit. We Americans have to earn our higher wages and higher prices by producing higher-quality, higher-value products. If we can't do that, then we don't deserve to have a high standard of living.

If I buy a foreign good, I try to buy the foreign good from a first world country where they do not ruin American jobs through games of wage arbitrage. There is no need for the U.S. to slap tariffs on products from Germany, Switzerland, France, Britain, Japan (note: not all of the products from those countries are necessarily of good quality) because a person living in those countries has a similar standard and cost of living as the U.S.

I try to avoid products from sweatshop countries whose only competitive advantage is cheap labor. The stuff is inexpensive but it's utter shit. Stuff from China is perhaps the best of the shit. Stuff from Mexico may be about as good as the stuff from China depending. The stuff from India should be banned; it's the shittiest quality I've ever seen.

Isnt that the guy that made it so you have to have the actual game discs verified because he is a moral fag?

>I have a copy of the Twin Snakes where the paint on the top is basically flaking off.
That's really weird. My copy of TS is doing exactly the same thing.
It was like that when I bought it from FUCKING GAMESTOP too.

>It's not technically legal to download a copy, even if you own your own legal copy already.
Of course not, just because you own one copy, doesn't mean you can pirate a second one. If want a second copy, you have to buy a second copy.
This stupid idea comes from retards, who believe they "licensed" the intellectual property by buying one copy of it.
To clarify that fallacy: A proper license grants actual rights, IP holders do not do that, they take your money, but they don't give you anything more than a copy with
>All Rights Reserved.
That sentence is not really hard to understand.
For OP it's even simpler: He doesn't own his copy anymore. He destroyed his copy and by that action he lost the right to use the IP stored on it.
Physical media rights are really simple.

Same thing happened with my Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. Brawl discs, they don't appear THAT damaged but for some reason Smash crashes before starting any match what-so-ever while Galaxy crashes during the ending cutscene, so I never got to play as Luigi, and it's been 8 years since I've owned the game.

I'll be damned if that's the case

Well technically even streaming is illegal

It's called disc rot you fucking morons.

Thats Devo-shit-lution.

It can be simply defective.

Not disc rot.
Just the label flaking off due to shitty cases/handling.
Has no effect on the games.