Niohfags will defend this

Niohfags will defend this

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everything about this game seems just so soulless

git gud

Shockwave, duh.

>roll directly back into the smash
>LOL WOW DEFEND THIS
kill yourself nigger

Malodorous stench, duh.

>he's actually doing it

OP's webm is where I stopped playing

Being forced to play constantly play safe so you can cheese a boss isn't fun in a fucking action game.

if you watch closely frame by frame she actually connects with him around the 5 second mark and then the dodge goes off afterwards

don't even own a ps4, just saiyan

Problems like this are why I'm on the fence about the game.

you literally dodged into her attack holy shit you're retarded

This is actually what happened, folks.

OP is a shitty fagort

>roll
it was the camera lock-on he never rolled

he was walking forward when the boss basically does a one-shot half-second bodyslam but it jerks the camera around so you just kill yourself.

realistically in that situation you would dash forward, but if he tried to dash forward the camera would still just make him dash towards the bodyslam.

git gud

>nioh player literally tries to defend this
>nioh players say "fagort"

Nioh is the best game ever and it's not released. It's great because it truly shows why Sup Forums hates video games as it's full of shitters

>back

he rolled forward, the proper dodge, and then the camera flung around before he even had time to dodge backwards

OP literally made the right move, the camera turned him around and the game cheated him.

>judging a game that is a beta demo

>implying betas dont have problems

game is a shitty souls clone in a boring setting with a lot of wasted potential

not going to waste money on the full release

t. just finished the demo on PS4

if you are using a mid stance or a low stance, in this game if you roll you will dash. Please kill yourself. He dashed into the bosses attack

>looks like the only decent Dark Souls clone
>combat is designed to be obtuse
For what fucking purpose, seriously.

Even the menu UI is worse than Demon's Souls

OP didnt react quickly enough, he cheated himself. If you dodge at the wrong time, its a bad dodge

He walked forward while locked on to the boss
The boss leapt past him
He kept walking forward
Guess what was right in front oh him?
THE FUCKING BOSS

Kill yourself

...

Oh fuck it's dark souls II all over again

>B-B-BUT IT'S JUST A BETA
While I really like the game, but you're still a gigantic retarded faggot

>unironically playing weeb souls

i wasn't implying they were the same thing doofus, they're tied to the same button. I'm not sure how you're trying to imply that changes my argument about camera whipping 180 degrees instantly.

>If you dodge at the wrong time, its a bad dodge
even when the game doesn't read inputs properly?

Maybe he shouldn't have been locked onto the boss so he would have complete control over his directional movement to dodge precisely where he wants to instead of taking the chance that the boss moving could jerk the camera and fuck with his movement

if the souls games have taught us anything its that the lock on mechanic is a crutch you want to stop using as soon as you're able aside from weapons that you need to aim precisely but can't reliably with this controller format like a thrusting spear or a ranged weapon

Too soon

The game literally plays like Dark Souls 2 for the player but at Bloodborne's speed for the enemies and bosses, its fucking atrocious.

The boss was nowhere near him, and certainly didn't make contact with him

>Maybe he shouldn't have been locked onto the boss
Dark Souls baby please leave, don't act like unlocked combat was ever intentionally supposed to be more useful. There's a reason dead angles were removed in the later games.

>freed from this mortal coil

Cringe worthy "you are dead"

>The game literally plays like Dark Souls 2

i am and im going to off myself soon anyways

You genuinely don't even understand the post

That isn't cringe worthy at all. If you cringe that easily I feel sorry for you.

>shitposter whos never played the game
>implying he couldnt see that attack coming
Look if shes hoping over your head and your locked onto her I think its fair to assume where your camera is going to go

His upper body clips through the boss in this frame.

t. Conquered

>can attack/roll 3 times before running out of stamina
>can only play safe and bait single enemies at a time
>everything has endlag because realism is fun
>enemies don't have to follow the rules of the game that you do

bait
k

>Niohfags

Anyone who isn't braindead can tell that the boss landed on top of him because he ran back, probably due to the locked camera.

t. Niohfag

You don't have to pretend the game is good. You can still get your money back.

Pretty much this. I don't even know what this game is about, but literally running into some slam attack. lulz.

Not even a Niohfag but it's obvious that he rolled under the attack then got pushed back by the hitbox. Convenient that it's a webm so you can see it frame by frame.

The sad part is that I was looking forward to this game at first, but it just feels like another lords of the fallen.
Regretting my ps4 purchase bigtime right now. T-thanks shills. The demo was enough to turn me off bigtime.

>can attack/roll 3 times before running out of stamina
If you're bad and don't know how to use ki pulse
>can only play safe and bait single enemies at a time
If you're bad and don't know how to switch to a stance that favours multiple enemies
>everything has endlag because realism is fun
Don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>enemies don't have to follow the rules of the game that you do
The enemies stamina bar is literally visible you fucking retard

Neck yourself

Never in my wildest dreams did I think a single game could weed out so many shitters with this much ease.

The hitbox pushed him away, but yeah that hit him. The only thing I hate about Ogress is that fury slash that seems to hit from miles away. If you stick close to her, she can't hit you unless she jumps, strikes the earth, or tries to grab. You can just strafe those attacks though. I've beaten her 3 times now.

this

gonna get yakuza 0 instead

>Shakespeare is cringy
I swear some people need to fucking read more.

I don't own a PS4.

>tries to dodge attack
>dodge would have likely been successful if it had gone off as intended
>but it was yanked around by the camera
>which was being yanked around by the game's lock on
>somehow not the fault of being locked on

its not about what is intended to be more useful, mechanically playing one way exposes you to more uncontrollable elements and risks than the other and having your camera which is related to your directional movement be a little more imprecise is exactly what happened in the webm

he's a fag, its not hard to imagine him being cringy

even more of a reason to get a refund on the game

The boss fucked the SHIT out of me until you figure out all you have to do is stay close. But webm related happened to me so much its not even funny. That move alone made it take forever to beat her.

How long until the trial ends?

The only thing weird going around on in that webm is the fact that your model gets pushed back a lot when you get hit. The animation isn't even that good and you just kind of "pop" backwards.

Its a legit hit though, watch the webm at 0.5 speed.

>make another uninspired, derivative lords of the fallen souls clone
>weebs will still defend it to death because MUH FEUDAL JAPAN and MUH JAP DEVS

It's ok when Japan does it

Dear fucking retarded Nioh shills, the game is not perfect.

skip to 40 seconds in.
youtube.com/watch?v=rgy1TV12LDc

Notice how he's locked on?
Notice how Artorias is still VISIBLE on the screen when he jumps?
Notice how Artorias actually has some wind up to his attack, giving the player time to react accordingly?
Notice how Artorias doesn't have to kill you with shockwaves?

Strange how FROM got this right in 2012 yet this game has been in development since like 2006 and doesn't have a proper camera.

no listen this was 100% player error and I didn't waste my money

>Souls games don't have camera and hitbox problems
This is what I call being delusional

Right because DaS was perfect and had no problems whatsoever.

Nice conversation.

Well, looks like OP was right. People are furiously defending lords of the fallen 2: weeb edition when it is obviously deeply flawed. Never change. Remember MGSV? Remember starbound? Remember no mans sky? Remember lords of the fallen? Remember dishonored 2? Of course you don't, you all have a memory of a goldfish.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I suck at this game and the Ogress is much easy to overwhelm than any other boss from this game.

You literally just need to hug her. She has a gigantic deadzone right in front of her where nothing she does hits you, besides the jump which you can easily roll away from

You know I was going to say in my post that Dark Souls wasn't perfect either, but I figured that would be a little fucking redundant so forgive me for thinking any of you dumbasses had any common sense.

Play Bloodborne, that's what everyone on Sup Forums bought a PS4
Bloodborne, especially Old Hunters, is an absolutely amazing game, and along with Dark Souls 1 are FROM's best games

>a cherry picked issue that probably happens once in a hundred times = deeply flawed game
I fucking hate this place
Don't know why I even come here anymore

Doesn't suit the try hard game, bucko.

Am I the only one getting "too much heat" messages from my ps4 when I'm at the blacksmith screen?
It's the only thing that makes my ps4 ventilate like a motherfucker, shit's weird.

>all the shitters in this thread
Jesus I'm dissapointed. Yeah the game has a lot more mechanics than Souls games to take into account during a fight, but once you learn them it's not that hard. Both the normal and Twilight missions are easily doable after you learn enemy patterns and how to effectively use all the options at your disposal, like the magic or the ninja abilities. Plus dead players are an easy income of high level weapons/armor.

It doesn't reach souls in terms of enemy and environment design, but when it comes to the gameplay itself it's on par at least. Miles ahead Lords of the Fallen.

what ps2 game is this

Is summer here already? Shuffle on home there, young'n.

If I'm not completely blind it looks like he changed momentum mid dodge right under the boss for some reason. That's the shittiest dodge mechanic I've ever seen where you can change angle based on where your target moves instead of it being completely based on where you start. Wew lad

This. It's unfortunately telegraphed very poorly to the player, so it's easy to waste many attempts dieing to what seems like impossible to dodge attacks. you just need to roll into her face, once you figure that out, she is easy peasy.

The fact that her jump tracks you mid air is the stupidest goddamn thing though.

>both games are imperfect, but I'll complain about once because I can't play it

having more mechanics doesn't make a game better though

same thing with having a difficult learning curve

(you)

I dunno, once i started to notice that she actively tries to keep the range from you walking backwards from what seems like minutes i noticed i can just hug this poor mother into submission

>both games are imperfect, yet one had 10 years of development time and is made by an actual action game studio and not the fucking guys who made King's Field
fixed your quote for you buddy!

>Dodge left
>Suddenly every single one of her attacks miss you

Muneshige though.....
Fucker took me more tries than I'd honestly like to admit.

>Changing to mid-stance when dodging

rofl git gud

Oh wow this is actually just another cheap souls knockoff

>yet one had 10 years of development time
>Sup Forums in charge of understanding how development works

You were clearly in her smash range when she hit the ground. You rolled back but did it at a weird angle of her jump so you rolled into her attack instead of away. Your body just teleported after you were dead because you were in her hitbox.
Next time roll to the side or block.

>I'm going to use console wars retardation as if it were a counter argument

What OPs webm shows is a completely legit hit hitbox wise, its not a problem at all. What is a problem however is the camera in the game, which can sometimes lead to rapid turns, resulting in directional dodges not going where you wanted them to.

This is easily fixed by dodging while shes in the middle of her jump animation, because then the camera wont flip out if you aim away from where shes landing.

The camera having issues is nothing new to action RPGs, Souls games have had those same problems from the beginning.

Apart from the camera, Nioh is exceptionally good in its gameplay. Sure it has problems like enemies standing up from critical animations, or one could even argue that the damage dealt by enemies is somewhat ridiculous, even if you can do equally ridiculous stuff yourself.

Its really telling that when a *FREE* demo releases for a slightly harder game than what people are used to, every shitter and their mother who visits this board absolutely loses their minds.

No, really. The game is not that mechanically amazeballs at the end of the day.

TEN YEARS
THAT MUST MAKE IT GOOD, RIGHT?
THAT'S WHY BOYHOOD IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER

In this case it does. Stances and Ki give a lot of depth to the combat, and together with the magic, ninja abilities, spirit, etc. create a vast amount of options for the player to choose. There are tons of viable builds (with maybe 2kat being the only underpowered weapon), and mastering all the elements this game transforms impossible fights into a cakewalk.

How the fuck are you supposed to high five in this game

Since this is a Nioh thread I was wondering if a pure magic build is viable? From what I've read most skills are locked down.

>2kat is underpowered
LMAOING @ UR LIFE BAKA ASS GAIJIN
Literally commit sudoku.
2 kat is great if you increase their damage with talismans.

I figured out why Niohfags are defending it so much now

You go into a Nioh thread and all you see it people telling eachother how to minmax and blow through the demo super easily. These are the same people that call themselves conquerers yet they can't play the demo blind then call others shitters.

The game wasn't in development for 10 years, retard. The previous version was scrapped and Team Ninja was handed the project about 4 years ago.

So they're underpowered, then.

>this shitty weapon is great if you artifically increase its powers
>with extremely limited items that last only a few seconds
wew lad. 2kat is shit, and whatever you do to make it work would be better used in any other weapon.