I'm fucking scared Sonybros. No, terrified even. With every bit of news that comes out Horizon Zero Dawn...

I'm fucking scared Sonybros. No, terrified even. With every bit of news that comes out Horizon Zero Dawn, the game seems more and more shit. Level scaling? Proceduraly generated?

Its not fair.

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I don't understand the point of this game
You're a woman? In the prehistoric days? Fighting robots? Why not just fight real dinosaurs

I'm more worried about the zero lack of advertisement tbqh

I mean, I literally haven't seen ANY ad for Horizon.

>Level scaling?
I thought this game looked worse with every new trailer but now I know it sucks.

Games never have ads on TV at least not in Canada I never see any

Its post historic.

Literally nothing wrong with level scaling

Okay so why is she dressed like a caveman? Thousands of years after the ancient times and she's still dressed like a caveman? It makes no sense it should have just been with dinosaurs and stuff that would be cooler

Because they're all robbits.

Civilization has been ruined for a thousand years and they have to survive in nature. Animals still exist.

Because they're robots who don't know they're all robots. You can't have a science fiction game anymore without some retarded fucking nature of man/synthetic life narrative. Yes I'm mad.

Because the humans are robots too and that will be the big TWIISSSST so they have to hide that somehow
So awful.

>procedual is bad
Who told you that?

Oh okay thank you for explaining it now I understand I thought it was a caveman robot hybrid

it always looked pretty lame, user. it's going to sale and get 9/10 reviews because it has a female lead

>Le fugg Horizon thread #145 this week

Zelda fans still intimidated I see

What about it is proceduraly generated?

>nintengaf is butthurt

>The technology won’t be limited to procedurally generating trees and rocks in Guerrilla’s upcoming open world RPG but will assemble full environments including wildlife, effects, sounds, and gameplay elements.

wccftech.com/horizon-zero-dawn-gpu-based-procedural-tech/

Cause it actually takes place in the future.
twitter.com/PlayStation/status/815418538252873729

Those are just meme words, that you nintendrones don't actually understand, you don't know the cons and pros, or how they are used in the game. Also, very weak bait thread

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>wccftech.com/horizon-zero-dawn-gpu-based-procedural-tech/

Absolutely fucking dropped

>ps quadruple having a gpu

>the inevitable you are a robot twist
Anyone hyped for this shit game is just a straight up Sony Fanboy.

But the level scaling was just bullshit?

I was kinda hyped up until I saw the story trailer, it just looked kinda lame and generic.

ok are you fucking retarded or something why do you keep making threads threads

boards.Sup Forums.org/v/thread/364808243#top

But Nioh
>doesn't see the appeal in Zoids
But Zoids are cool

I was actually going to buy a PS4 if this game was good, but looks like I have to keep waiting.

Then make more zelda shill threads kid.

ok tell me why this is so bad

the fuck are you on about

Honestly I just kind of expect this to turn out to be another Sony hypebeast thing that's just at best an okay game cause that's usually how this stuff seems to go. When you hype EVERY game you publish like it's the second coming it starts to have a Boy who Cried Wolf effect, particularly due to recent events.

Oh my god why is it another platform war thread. Just...why? Like can't people just stay focused on the software itself literally just once.

>Procedurally generates the world around the player
Jesus fucking christ, I'm sick of this shit.
Design your fucking environments, you shits, this isn't Minecraft.

Well it was either gonna be that or Aloy was taken from a stasis pod as a child, she is the last of the old civilization and key to rebuilding their old tech, probably a genetic lock her father (Earths chief-iest scientist) sealed some McGuffin away with

>and gameplay elements.
Oh boy! I can't wait for "climb futuristic tower/robot to unlock more" x100.

Yeah I think I've had about enough of Sup Forums for today

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Wait that's Fallout 4. Or wait all of these garbage plots are the same.

Philosophy undergrad plz go.

not a argument

Games using procedural tech should be viewed as
>What is level design?

are you people fucking retarded or just pretending

Ther will be a reason why they act like animals user. Some people forget that the game isn't out yet. They were quite adament and smug about there being story and not wanting to say anything about it.

>Le fugg BotW thread #1,450,145 this week
>Le Horizon is better thread #500,000 this week

>people start to pick up on Horizon being shit
N-N-N-N-NINTENDO!!!!
Love it when you faggot shitpost 24/7 then get a taste of your own medicine and act like the victim.

>b-b-but Nintendo!

Both games will be shit m8

>Level scaling? Proceduraly generated?
You can't make this shit up, holy shit!

which part of post apocalyptic setting do you not understand?

there are a lot of recent games with low scores and female leads. take your identity politics and paranoia and fuck off

hay retard why are most of the threads about this game comparing this to zelda then

b-b-b-not a argument

you're on a board where most of the users are unemployed virgins and teenagers. fighting on the internet is their only source of accomplishment and validation. why are you still here? if you want a civil discussion go to reddit

both are upcoming open world action games

Because Horizon shills feel insecure and need to justify their pre-order by creating threads of comparing it to Zelda and why it's better.
All they can really argue about is graphics tho

that are nothing alike and on different consoles so whats the point

what shills the only thing i see are shitposting threads

>zero lack of advertisement
So it DOES have advertisement?

I'm on this board every day and I've never seen a horizon shill thread. at best occasionally there will be a neutral thread asking for opinions. but the majority of horizon threads are console war bait from nintendrones, like this thread. I wish you could stop

he makes them back to back too

Sony knows it's going to flop and are saving some money, it's one of their most expensive games to date.

why would it fail? it ticks all the boxes for a success. impressive graphics, huge install base, open world meme, tps, big budget, etc

So basically God Slayer/Crystalis

What's level scaling? Is it the thing where you level up but it literally makes no difference because the bad guys level up too, and the game is basically just grinding with literally no reward?

What is wrong with level scaling?

Exactly that, yes.

Have you never played Oblivion?

No...

no sense of progression

Stop complaining are you so bad at games you have to grind for more power instead of dodging and skill. Level scaling sounds great it will keep you alert at all times. Playing as a op character is no fun.

>what are ea games
>what is bf1

If one thing eletronic farts does right is advertisement.

No.
But there's gotta be a good way to do it, right?
A level cap for shitty enemies, new enemy strategies and skills when THEY level up, anything?

Yes.

>sony "fanboy" here
i could care less about this game, the last guerilla game i enjoyed was killzone 2,i hate weeb games, everything else should be fine i hope they get more creative, PS3 had some solid games that were cancelled.

>never played Oblivion

Level scaling does not work, period.

>level 1
>10 damage
>enemy has 30 HP

>level 10
>100 damage
>enemy has 300 HP

It's all just a worthless grind in the end.

>go into archives
>type horizon in image filename
>"This is going to be the best game of 2017, Sup Forums just doesn't want to admit it!"
>"This is the Zelda"
>"Should Nintendo be afraid?"

>type Zelda in image filename
>"this is a 2017 game"
>">these graphics, what did nintendo mean by this?"
>"CONFIRMED TO BE SHIT"

Fucking Sonygaf, they love to give, but they can't take.
>BotW shitpost thread #999,999
>"haha lol FUCK zleda and fuck nintendo"
>Horizon shitpost thread #7
>plays the victim "ugh, guys why do you do this? I mean what do you do all day, does it matter? I just.... I just can't ugh."

This game never looked good except for the fact that it looked good (graphics). None of the gameplay and story they have showed has looked good at all.

I'm a ps4 fanboy who loves to piss people off but this is not the game that we should be using to do that. Plus it comes out too close to nioh which we have already played and know is better than this shit.

So what's the point of leveling?

It's a crutch for bad game design.

You can design multiple areas, quests, dungeons and enemies for multiple level ranges, and then cohesively tie them all together so that one area flows into the next as the player progresses.

Or you can just say fuck it, haphazardly throw shit everywhere and just have everything scale to the player's level.

Literally none. In any game.

The only thing that should increase over time is the number of abilities and/or attack types.

Guild Wars did it perfectly. You could hit max level with the best armor stats (assuming it's not your first char) in less than a day and spend the rest of the time getting new skills.

Wait, so the game esentially maintains the same level of difficulty the entire time? Who the fuck would think of such a retarded feature?

So where was the source for the level scaling? The only source I've been able to find is a post-E3 IGN article specifically saying that enemies DON'T scale.

What you described is the perfectly functional level scaling, the point is it has to be complemented with something to work better.
Leveling up might unlock new skills, maybe a 300 damage type of skill to deal with the now 300 HP monster, it show that the world is moving around you instead of finding those Lvl. 3 pokemons years after you left your shitty starter town. There's also player experience dealing into all of this, if the game isn't turn based, shit WILL get faster no matter how big the numbers are going.

Maybe, just maybe, it was just Bethesda sucking massive dick at developing anything in general?

Monster hunter would be nice with all of these weapons and armor skills, but you have to grind there anyway so yeah.

It was exceptionally bad in oblivion because if you leveled up by doing non combat skills you'd just be underpowered.

ign.com/articles/2016/06/16/e3-2016-the-8-things-we-learned-while-playing-horizon-zero-dawn

"You can also explore anywhere from the get-go, and enemies don’t scale alongside you, so expect to encounter beasts far above your level if you wander too far away from the earlier environments."
There's the article and the quote, in case anyone was curious.

do you know what false flagging is if you dont look it up idiot

It's worse than that. In Oblivion if you level up too fast from training useless skills and have no gears you'll get shit on by a random bandit. And the other way around works too, never level up and beat the game with a level 1 character.

Wrong, I'm a leaf and I saw multiple ads for the PS4 Pro and Xbone S over the holidays. I've also seen ads for the usual big releases like Pokémon, BF1, etc.

The Monster Hunter killer right there.

>why would it fail? it ticks all the boxes for a success.
except one
>female protag
major studios are still shit-scared of female protags because they think they don't sell

>No coop
No.

>and gameplay elements.
Now that's a big red flag.

this

The game can get progressively harder if you don't level correctly, and usually remains easiest around mid level

level scaling is also a really easy way to circumvent actual level design. If all of the enemies are roughly the same difficulty you get a pass on making a progressive level of challenge

>tomb raider

I was actually hype for this based on the concept of fighting robot dinosaurs with a bow, but the track record of the devs and the level scaling scares me. Hope there'll be fun man vs. robot fights at least.

are you fucking retarded

level scaling is ok if it's constrained to areas
like the tutorial area scales from 1-10, next are from 11-20, etc. It means there's a bit of a buffer if you accidentally overlevel in an area, but still has the progression
Of course it means the devs still have to plan out areas, and level scaling is used as a shitty cover to remove that work entirely, so it rarely happens

>merely pretending

level scaling is better and more realistic. it should be your actual skill at playing the game that makes the difference, not magically being able to demolish threats that you couldn't beat an hour ago.

It's geurilla games. It's destined to be mediocre as fuck