Friendly reminder that fire emblem conquest's story is shit

Friendly reminder that fire emblem conquest's story is shit

yoooou are the ooooceans grey waaaaaves

destined to seeek life beyooond the shoooore, just out of reach.

That's okay. We have waifus to make up for it, especially pic related.

fire emblem has never had a good story tho

>fe
>good story
lmao

It's never been as bad as Conquest. I'm pretty sure I can safely say that, having only played the three Fates games, simply because Conquest has one of the absolute worst stories in any video game I've ever played.

>Fe
>good story ever
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
Conquest story is bad but youre making it out like FE wasnt about person creates band of misfits to hunt niggas.

Friendly reminder that's all you faggots have on the game.

You clearly haven't played Revelations

I did. I found Conquest much more painful, but it's entirely possible that it simply numbed by the time I got to Revelations, since I went Birthright>Conquest>Revelations.

Still the best of the three routes...if that means anything.

(OP)
ESPECIALLY PIC RELATED

agreed, i havent finish revelations but conquests maps were well crafted and challenging in a fun way

>FE 1
A crown prince is betrayed by his country's allies, and singlehandedly brings together an army of misfits to retake his kingdom. Along the way, he kills a legendary evil dragon with his ancestral blade.

>FE 14
A half-dragon prince who everyone bows down to decides to simultaneously fight two enemy nations after his evil adopted dad turns him into a suicide bomber, and then discovers a secret kingdom hidden at the bottom of a canyon, except everyone is invisible and you're not allowed to talk about the kingdom. Also s/he has a super special custom sword that absorbs power from the legendary weapons of the other characters, and the aforementioned evil dad is actually a dead sludge monster corpse.

It will never be as bad as Radiant Dawn

>It was all a Blood Pact Prank Bro

Conquest Had:
>Best Story
>Best Siblings
>Best Husband
>Best Levels
>Objectively the better morale ground

Birthright had:
>Best Wife (Pic Related)
>Lol weebshit

Revelations had:
>Access to best wife outside of weebshitstorm
>UNITS UNITS EVERYWHERE
>Best shipping capabilities

The existence of Hans, Iago, and Garon are what hurts Conquest. They could've easily been solved if Leo had been allowed to murder them all because MC is too beta to stand up for himself, or handle the alpha women of Noir.

Really, the gameplay is the only thing it has going for it. The entirety of the Fates games has good music, though.

i can take some of the bullshit loopholes but what really got me was chapter 15 and how corrin never again questioned valla as well as azura having the chance to explain everything. corrin is a fucking betafag

That's because he was step down from Robin, who was Alpha. Even Camilla sees Corrin as a beta that she must mommy over.

Corrin and Corrin worship is the reason Fates is so bad. I've never seen such unwarranted MC cock sucking, and I play Persona.

>get stuck in Conquest Hard

>Fire Emblem stream
>oh yea, I need to finish Conquest and Revelations
I don't even remember the story. My Original Character was supposed to overthrow the bad guy by...doing as he was told? Except without killing? Even though I'm clearly killing in-game.

Nintenyearolds tend to overpraise the stories Nintendo shits out because they haven't actually read any books or whated any movies or shows or anything, so of course generic maid setting herself on fire is a rich tapestry of lore and storytelling.

I dunno. I think the only Fire Emblem story I could stomach was FE7. It still got dumb at the end but at least it pretended to have some kind of internal politics for the first half.

>never played Conquest

Really how bad could it be? I'm almost done with Birthright and so far it's not bad it's just really really boring and I have to struggle to remember the cast. Say what you will about Awakening but I at least remember most of them.

The story is more bad than boring, the gameplay is actually good, I prefer the cast in Conquest.

The characters in Conquest are good, but the story is terrible. Corrin spends most of the plot to stand up to Garon, and all the Nohr Siblings are too broken to simply assassinate the King and rule the nation.

Welcome to the entire reason Revelations happens. If Corrin just shouted "You two are being fucking idiots and are getting played" it would have ended much sooner with a lot less bloodshed.

Defeating a unit in game doesn't actually kill them, just onocks them out usually. The only time in Conquest where the defenders are actually killed is on the mission against Scarlet and , where Hans comes in after you and does a lot of nasty things.

Outside of that you're pretty much trying to get the Hoshidans to back down and submit by being the better man/woman.

Jesus fuck this. Takumi might have been an asshole but at the very least he was more believable as a character who didn't immediately jump on the cult of Corrin

>Oh nii-san! We missed you so much! Half of us were infants or young children when you were taken but we did nothing but think of you all this time!
>Takumi: What the fuck is wrong with you people? He's been with Nohr for like the past decade. He's wearing Noir clothes right now. How do you know he's not loyal to Nohr now? Why would you let this guy near the most sensitive members of our family?

Are these not reasonable questions? Doesn't this situation warrant even a little bit of skepticism?

Yeah, but the maps, difficulty and characters make up for it.

tbqh you can cut Fates out and just say Fire Emblem's story is shit and it'd still be true

>Defeating a unit in game doesn't actually kill them, just onocks them out usually.
Ah, yes. I'm *gently* setting them on fire and hitting them with rubber axes. My dog wasn't killed by that Jeep, he's just taking a nap.

Only Camilla and Jacob wanted to be Corrin's cocksleeve.

It's more like 'I'm going to hit you hard enough to break your armor, now sit the fuck down.'

>Get Critical Astra
>They're not dead, they're just asleep

›gently set them on fire
kek

That's all it needs going for it faggot.

Hinoka was all over Corrin. And Sakura. And Silas. Especially

Serious question here.

Why do the japs suck at writing so much? Is it the languages fucking eachother up in translation or do they give the scripts to interns to write?

I'm not looking for 10/10 nobel prize winning shit, but paying $40 I want something memorable.

›raider weapons lol

Also worth noting that this generally only applies to Conquest and early Revelations, and even then only when fighting Nohrians/Hoshidans. Faceless, the Vallans or w/e they were, and bandits/mooks/ninja rape cave dudes all get fucked.

Why are all the sisters so damn thirsty in this game?

While characters getting on Corrin's cock is bad, you are literally naming the characters with actual reasons to be all over him

if you want examples use Saizo who randomly became an idealist after Corrin helped him save his tit ninja

>tfw you ended up liking Takumi the most

Apparently they gave a prolific (?) manga writer the job, he returned a SHITLOAD of content, then IS just did the "tl;dr" of a few hundred pages and Fates is what we have now.

It sucks, there's a lot of stuff that would have been interesting if it had been executed better. Like I know if you're playing FE for the story you're doing it wrong, but damn.

Lots of it got fucked up by NoA translation. I know a lot of supports were either trashed (Saizo and Kaguro's infamous ... support) and some outright removed in favor of MC dick sucking.

Really wish I could get HANs working on my 2ds to download the Gay Supports mod.

Camilla is usually with other women, Hinoka wants stronk Dragon Dick, Sakura literally can't say no, and Silas is hopelessly outclassed.

I like this slightly better than how the games usually do it.

>Villain gets a portrait and two lines
>Blarrg I'm dead
>Villains still don;t take you seriously despite cutting though like 50 generals by the end of the game

The gameplay is what matters most.

For all we know, Camilla could be gathering an army of women to help her conquer Corrin.
Why would Saizo hate the person who saved the best tit cow in all of Hoshido?

I wish they would just do a generic story to enable the gameplay. Even still, with FE's mechanics, a generic story would still lead to caring about characters.
>oh no we've been attacked/are attacking X
>yay we've beaten back/conquered X
>memorial to those who have fallen

Fates in general has a shit story. Birthright's not much better than Conquest's (has a shittier cast too) and Revelation's is arguably worse

Why should we listen to the man who married a gold digger?

It's also the best designed in terms of map design out of the three Fates games. I'm willing to slog through that goddawful story for some really tight chapters. (Even if it does start to fall of a little towards the end.)

Should I get Conquest? I've heard so many bad things about it. I enjoyed Awakening despite hating the writing.

>best designed in terms of maps design
Christ, just forget I said anything. I'm too tired for this shit.

No, what killed it was Corrin seeing Azura on stage and acting like she was a totally different person.

I'm not going to comment on the execution of Fates' storytelling, but I don't think the issues lied in the idea. Simpler plots and storylines can still lead to great narrative if it's executed well with interesting characters (see Star Wars: A New Hope), but a more complex plot doesn't automatically make it bad. Hell, I think with a few more rewrites, I think Fates' story could've been great, amazing even. But unfortunately, most of the plot-relevant dialogue and major plot points just cause the thing to fall apart. Honestly makes me salty, because I really wanted to like Fates' story.

From what I understand Conquest has far better characters, maps, and harder difficulty but the story is mind bendingly retarded. Birthright is more like Awakening and has grinding available and the story is better in that it's not bad, just really boring.

Conquest, then download Revelations if you enjoyed it.

Revelations has a shittier story, but it features pretty much 95% of the entire cast, and as such allows for a ton of Support stuff like mixing the Royal Bloodlines.

Just be prepared for MC dick sucking and general retardation at some points

Takumi was an unlikeable shithead because he was openly hostile to everyone with little to no provocation, not just Corrin.

I'm still sad and angry about it. Don't try to say Birthright and Revelation are any better, though. Fates' story is awful in all three routes.

Friendly reminder that Fire Emblem Conquest is also shit, just not as shit as its sibling games. It has a good start, peaks at Chapter 10, but then wavers a little until you get to the 20s where things just take a complete nosedive.

Yes, we've had a million threads about that. We are all quite aware at this point.

i just played through conquest, what were some plot points you didnt like?
just wondering i thought it was ok at best desu

>recommending revelations ever
I wouldn't even recommend it to a pirate

Birthright is closer to awakening and much better map design than Awakening. Plus pair up isn't fucking broken. It's basically awakening+.

Conquest maps are largely better however and I enjoy it more. I will warn you however that both games kinda start shitting the bed late game with their maps. Birthright just goes full awakening and you can tell they gave up and Conquest starts getting silly with its map gimmicks like red light green light assholes and ninja rape hallways

Fate s in general is shit.

fates in general has a shit story including revelation, friend

He may be a bit of an asshole but that's still better than being a lying sack of bland samurai like Ryoma, a stuttering more blob like Sakura or no personality whatsoever like the other one

>Not getting Revelations and the subsequent Support Hack
>Not creating the strongest and strangest family tree of bloodlines ever witnessed in video games, let alone Fire Emblem.

Even though I call Birthright boring as fuck the revamped mechanics still make it worth a play. Though I found myself using pair up more than double teaming just because one unit can do so much damage

It's still better than Radiant Dawn.

And why should I care anyway, I don't play FE for the story, anyone who does is bound to be disappointed unless they're playing FE4 without spoilers (and it's still worse than the story of any Matsuno SRPG).

Who fucking cares.

Just head canon it as INVADE OTHER COUNTRY and play the fucking game, which is pretty fun.

Oh I'm not even defending the Hoshido royals, Hoshidans in general are completely inferior to their Nohrian counterparts. I mean hell I just want to fuck Hinoka really. Nohrians are far more popular and better received than the opposite game's characters too.

The story is retarded but in an entertaining way. I'd choose it over stories of older FEs that were competent, but also dry and boring, and full of infodumps.
Goron laughing maniacally, Hans fucking shit up, Iago's sheninigans, it was all hilarious.

>Tfw I turned Revelations Reina into a Dread Fighter
>Tfw this was after S-Ranking her
>Tfw she went from an unstoppable rape machine to a nigh invulnerable goddess of death

I know I shouldn't depend on one unit but this is hilarious.

it's true.

also this Actually reusing the main theme over and over was a major complaint of mine for both Awakening (Id) and Fates (YUUU ARE THE OOOOSHINS GRAY WAAAAVES)

The only really shitty maps were the foxes and the wind one, other than those maps in Conquest are still some of the best in the series, as they actually tried to keep you thinking about the maps and their gimmicks and how to play around them, much like FE5 did a lot of the time (FE5 gimmicks just happened to be a lot less straight forward). Lunatic is just a great fun to have.

Ninja rape dungeon just required to be decent at choke points and understanding how the switches worked, it was slow, but still decent.

For what purpose? This isn't awakening where you can at least justify your autism with apotheosis. Most children units won't be hitting their caps with a few exceptions(eg selkie with speed, Velouria strength, percy luck by level 5) meaning they're typically not much better than their parents. There's always eternal seals but for what? To one hit the final boss for shits and giggles? Deal over 800 damage on Rhajat?

I don't get the ninja rape cave meme, it's one of the maps that gave me less problems.
While the wind tribe one drove me crazy.

When I said Ninja rape hallway, I was talking about Ryoma's map. The one with numerous ninjas attacking one unit through walls reducing their hp and defenses to nothing with their skill. Or the other side of the map which has a fucking chain with the sole purpose of dragging a unit 500 squares away into a group of enemies.

For fun

Also to see how they went about the supports, with or without hack. Looking them up is for nerds.

Kinda looking forward to RyomaxCamilla and XanderxHinoka.

I always felt like Corrin was a major ass-pull design wise.

They tried to do something unique and instead made the character extremely complex and strange... also why doesn't Corrin's armor have shoes? WHAT'S THE POINT OF FIGHTING BAREFOOT?

I think having the Avatar as the Lord is a fucking dreadful idea.
Robin was almost perfect, because he clearly has a story role, but the game doesn't revolve around him as much as it did Chrom and Lucina.

Fates could've really benefitted from making Xander the protag of Conquest and Takumi protagonist of Birthright.

And Revelation was a fucking writing joke.

I only had trouble with that the first time around because it caught me off guard.

It's actually pretty simple, you can just bait the enemy in the hallway and then break the wall with a javelin so you can rush the enemies on the right.

For the left marionettes you can just circle around them using the left hallway, or you can just use the chokepoint outside their room.

>Nohrians are far more popular and better received than the opposite game's characters too.
Eh, for Xander and Elise, sure. Takumi is equally are more popular than Leo, and while Camilla is technically more popular she's also widely hated, while Hinoka is just forgotten.

Don't bother with RyomaxCamilla. It's practically a parody of everyone being forced to support. They talk about nothing but Corrin because they literally can't think of anything else to talk about after trying, and openly state that they have nothing in common. XanderxHinoka is ok, though not really anything special imo.

>but the game doesn't revolve around him
Awakening literally revolves around him after you beat Gangrel.

Best case would be Chris from FE12.

Then in that case, it shall be Elise who gets the lightning dick, and Takumi who shall be smoothered by tits.

>Robin
>the game doesn't revolve around him
You played the second half, right?

>also why doesn't Corrin's armor have shoes?

because feet fetish

It's more like the last third. The second act is kind of an ensemble gig.

To show off that the character models had actual feet instead of the Wind Waker feet they had in Awakening.

Yeah, Camilla x Takumi isn't deep but it's practically a fluff pairing, with Camilla basically fawning over him and Takumi being tsundere as fuck and dropping so much spaghetti that he could feed all of Nohr.

The haters are just more vocal.
Just look at the last poll.

>Dropping so much spaghetti it could feed all of Nohr

Yes, YES. My autism is sated.

>giving your precious imouto to anyone
>not marrying her yourself

>No option to put shoes on

Feet are disgusting, especially dirty ones.

I think they kept it in moderation, that it was enjoyable and still kept the focus on Chrom and Lucina within reason.

Fates just has you Mary Sue through every situation as Mrs. Perfect Dragon Girl

>ElisexRyoma
Goddamn adorable but poor Shiro's strength growth

>Though I found myself using pair up more than double teaming just because one unit can do so much damage
Meanwhile on Conquest I rarely used pair-up due to how essential double-teaming attacks was in order to survive waves of enemies.

I'm sorry user, but Corrin's already married in this playthrough. Can't use those drills this time.

Fire Emblem was a mistake.

>Ike twice in the top 5

IKEK.