Culprit gets caught

>culprit gets caught
>they have a "sympathetic" motive they spend 10 minutes blabbing about so that you feel bad for winning
Why do games try to guilt trip you?

She didn't, though. She was just like "hurr durr I want to be a vampire loli queen" and then they killed her.

Because dipshits like you would turn around and complain when villains/culprits do not explain their reasoning/motive. You would be here going
>WAH THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE WHY DID HE/SHE DO THAT WAH

>"hurr durr I chimped out because muh brother"
Give me the greedy vampire scumbag any day

Hey, I'm not defending any other character. Danganronpa's criminals generally have really lame motives. There are only a handful of good ones. Was 2 any better about this?

>not sympathizing with someone who simply wants to be a loli
come on

i bet half of those suicidal fucks on /lgbt/ would gladly kill a man to become one

Every motive is sympathetic unless the culprit is straight up crazy

>was 2 any better about this
OH BOY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU

2 was much better:
>You were pressured into killing once you realized you'd be stuck on the island, then pretended you had no desire to kill as you murdered someone
>I wanted to protect x and have them escape by having them plan the murder I'll carry out
>This is the shit one.
>If I didn't kill someone we all would've starved to death
>Probably the best case in the 2 games as the truth dawns on you and you realize how fucked you are

Spoilers for each motive but generally pretty great besides 2-3.

>I wanna see my mom
>my master will get himself executed if he kills this bitch so I'll kill her so he doesn't have to
>Monokuma mindhacked me into DESPAIR
>we were fucking trapped and gonna starve to death unless someone kills
>I found out that everyone is Ultimate Despair so I'm gonna trick them into fucking up the trial and kill them all

Why can't western gamedevs make a character this compelling?

>Probably the best case in the 2 games as the truth dawns on you and you realize how fucked you are
I shit a brick once I realized the purpose of the water grenades.

If you think Hopeman is compelling wait until Tiny Hitler

I was hoping it'll be a Schrodinger's cat thing and whoever you picked would actually be the Blackened.

It's obvious he wanted the "traitor" to throw it though, and I already assumed that was Nanami.

Looking forward to it, but I doubt anything will ever top Nagito's shenanigans.

By the way, does anyone know what his OVA is about? It's included with v3 isn't it?

>By the way, does anyone know what his OVA is about?
What was going on in Nagito's head after his avatar died, but before he woke up.

I thought Peko's case was pretty bad desu.


It felt pretty forced hat she wanted herself to be the murder weapon. If Monokuma wasn't so desperate for dead kids bodies' I feel like that stunt should have gotten Fuyuhiko killed along with the others.

>Doubt anything will top Nagito
Boi, Nagito is pussy-tier compared to lil' hitler. The dude is legitimately insane and I'm pretty sure fucks with a few cases directly.
The OVA just shows how the New World program works by using Nagito. It's pretty boring.

Aside from accidental murder, or murder by obligation, there are no sympathetic motives. The motives are usually the ones which point out the exact weakness of the culprit, be it money, anger issues, love or simply the brain matter.

My weakness is that I can't stop bullying Saionji. And obviously, I want to bully Saionji so much. I want to scold her to tears and throw her into pool. I want to take her gummies and eat them in front of her. Then I'll force-feed her with lemon-flavored gummies, palm after palm. I want to call her a stinky and take her panties so she has to going commando for the rest of the trip. I want to mock her inability to put her kimono by herself, so I'll strip her every once in a while, yelling what one day, she'll be glad to be able to dress up herself. Also, I'll take her kitty hairpins, making her long blonde hair cover her private parts. And when I'll give kimono back to her, I'll make sure to put Mr. Ants in every single pleat and Mr. Crab in her panties.

And when finally she snaps and try to bully me by any means possible, I'll spank her in front of everyone until she'll like it. And when she'll come to me, begging for another spanking, I'll mock her again, then spank her as if my life depends on it, laughing on her moans full of pleasure. Mere seconds before her climax, I'll throw her into pool once again, leaving her in her aroused state.

>i bet half of those suicidal fucks on /lgbt/ would gladly kill a man to become one
This would have been a good motive for a murder

>that moment when you realize chiaki is the killer

It was obvious Monokuma never bought that shlock. He just let Peko carry on with it and have the class argue for shits and giggles. He had already decided Peko was the killer and the class had voted correctly.

I liked the 'idea' of the first one of V3 if not the 'execution' (pun kinda intended)
>I killed them because I thought they were the mastermind
>Only they weren't the mastermind
>And I didn't actually kill them, the mastermind made it look that way

Fat otaku guy literally killed someone to be with his computer trap waifu.

>culprit gets caught
>they have a "sympathetic" motive they spend 10 minutes blabbing about
>their "motive" actually is less sympathetic the more you think about it, and the more you learn about why they killed someone the more you hate them

perhaps the ultimate despair are the friends we made along the way.

And the ultimate hope was Naegi's penis all along.

It's a weird case in that I like pretty much everything about it EXCEPT pretty much everything involved with Peko. That's Mahiru and Fuyuhiko's case

>Hifumi killed the "fan favorite" Taka
>Hifumi is the reason why DUDE ROBOTS AND JUSTICE HAMMERS exist
>Celeste is the one that gets all the hate
It's not fair...

V3 ruins a lot because the theme of lies doesn't really work when a majority of the cases are directly tampered with or instigated by someone larger.
It's not fun to give a trick answer during a True/False statement.

Kiyotaka is also a rapist, don't forget to point that out.

is 3 not v3 worth watching?

Indeed, serves him right!

She loves Fuyuhiko and would rather she died instead of him.

It's a simple, decent, motive. It goes full retard when she tries to push that "I'm a murder weapon and thus not the killer" stupidity but that's a separate thing than the murder motive.

Kodaka specifically asked for the VA of Sailor Moon to voice Pekoyama to add to the Shining Justice gag.

has a stupid ending but I liked it
but you missed out on the Sup Forums threads, those were a blast

> "fan favorite" Taka
Fuck that guy. I found him obnoxious.
I liked him better after Kiyondo, but it was pretty obvious that he gonna die soon.

There wasn't even an option to spend free time with him

Nobody could even remotely control our boys Juzo and Yu Narukami

How high is your success rate? Mine is 420%

you can't separate the I am a tool thing because it factors into how she loves Fuyuhiko. She wants to be his tool. If she acted purely out of love she would've just fessed up and said she was the blackened all along, because to do otherwise would put Fuyuhiko's life in danger in case they picked someone else at the class trial.

Because it was expected he'd do stupid shit like that. She's supposed to be this gambling/lying queen but she's so bad at it.

Except Juzo was controlled.
By his gay love for Narukami.
Which is understandable

Perhaps lying about being a good liar is the greatest lie of all?

It's still funny to me to think that Juzo died thinking Yu was mad at him for being gay.

It's straight up hilarious.

I think that's going a step too far user.

Yeah but wasn't that retconned after we found out he survived being stabbed through the chest?

Don't forget that Peko didn't need to kill Mahiru. Mahiru was no threat to Fuyuhiko. If Peko had just grabbed the bat and not kept it away from Mahiru, he was no threat to Mahiru. Nobody HAD to die, Peko wasn't FORCED to pick between herself and Fuyuhiko.

Peko is a blood thirsty bitch and Fuyuhiko is a nice boy who doesn't know how to Yakuza.

That's why I'm of the opinion that Peko probably killed Sato on her own too and then gave the credit to Fuyuhiko.

>tfw power of friendship and social links just isn't that appealing anymore

The greatest lie of all was Kodaka being a competent story writer.

They didn't meet after that again, so it still makes sense to me. And Yu gets to him like 5 seconds too late.

He was crawling down the hallways, bleeding and shit, and probably thinking
>I wanted you to stab me with your penis and not your sword, b-baka!

if she did it probably happened basically the same way 2-2 happened. Knowing Fuyuhiko he'd never want her to kill on his behalf, he'd feel he was shifting the buck

maybe killing the main villain in the first entry wasnt a good idea

The only guaranteed way to survive (according to Monokuma) was to get away with one of the killings. Peko had such a femboner for her master that she couldn't resist.

One of the many disappointing things about DR3 is that everybody is such good friends after they wake up from the comas. Are you kidding me, do you know how fucking pissed I'd be at Nagito after 2-1 or 2-5

Kaede is shit, atleast here Kodaka wins many good points

Kiibo should've been the protag, though

I was enjoying the story in Danganronpa but I ended up dropping it.
I couldn't stand the courtroom sections. It was like a random mish-mash of bad minigames with dialogue.

No, that was a good idea.

Bringing her back was awful.

but "not resisting" implies agency, and a tool doesn't have agency. Peko should've known that Monokuma wouldn't buy that argument.

I think pic related should've been the culprit.
What would that accomplish? He would get off of your hate. He's like a male Mikan in that regard.

Heck, Saionji already hates Mikan. What's she gonna think after 2-3?

The minigames get worse in DR2.

>Kaede is shit
You take that back you little fuck.

>Expect interesting thread about villians
>Becomes a DR thread
A shame
Next time use another pic OP

Improved Hangman's Gambit was a fucking nightmare.

But Logic Dive was fun.

How Good are the motives in V3?
Are they retarded like 1-3 or 2-4 tier?

A big shit that isn't any different from Maizono, yes!

2-4 wasn't retarded, 2-4 was amazing.

Because "Yup, you caught m. I'm super duper evil" doesn't make a believable character.

2-4 has great motives, fuck you

No fighting.

Peko doesn't really see herself as a person though, more as her master's sword. At least, that was the angle she was going for. Maybe it was like said: it was a way for her to take responsibility but for him to get the credit for it.

You are going to love V3-3.

...

Where are you getting transparent sprites from? The wiki doesn't have them.

He should have died instead of literally anyone

I knew it wasn't going to end well for her once I realized she was an AI. Once Monomi's book confirmed her as a traitor the rest of the trial was a knife slowly twisting.

Mahiru just wanted to talk to them and apologize. Fuyuhiko legitimately wanted to kill her like he did the one girl and Peko wanted to take the fall so he could escape.

I'll trade Yasuhiro for Celeste.

Then that dumb case has an excuse for being so dumb.

Phoenix Wright does this especially in a lot of cases. You lose a lot of gratification this way. Of course its a better ending, but i'd still prefer the other way around.

Right but the only weapon in the room was the bat. The bat was symbolic because that's how Sato died. Once Peko grabbed the bat, the conflict should've been over.

>Watched the subbed OVA
>turns out the World Destroyer is a modified Alter Ego
If Alter Ego came back after death, could Chiaki AI be alive as well?

I'm pretty sure the Chiaki AI implanted itself in Hajime's brain.

Sorry, i meant that 2-4 was Great.

DR1 had a few dumb cases.
Literally lost best trap because a Jojo reference chimped out.

I'm still mad about him lacking a decent motive for killing Chihiro

Kaede is pure and did nothing wrong you trash heap!

"This little fagboy working out is making me so mad!"

Oh well.

whoa

Ibuki is too pure

It's easy to be pure when you're retarded.

his motive was stronger than Celeste's
AND STRONGER THAN DAIYAAAAAAAA

tbqh I wasn't really bothered by his lack of a "good reason." They established plenty of times that he was an irrational hot head who resorted to violence at the drop of a hat.

Only reply to this post if your DR waifu hasn't died in a killing game.
Dying in Neo World Program still counts

So do we actually have a third case that isn't shit?
If they kill my little boy Ouma i will be VERY MAD

Celeste's case is stupid and basically makes no sense, but her motive isn't bad. I'm sorry Sup Forums but out of 32 total participants in a killing game over the course of 2 games, you're going to have at least 1 person who's acting purely out of greed and self-interest.

She died twice actually...

usami came back, ae came back twice, really I'm expecting her to be "alive" if isn't what happened.

The conflict was one sided. She'd never go against his wishes and simply took the route that'd best ensure her master lived.

>Ouma
>case V3-3
:^)

No spoilers but did V3 redeem Kodaka as a writer or did he fuck up again?

eh

>Kodaka
>redeem himself
WEW LAD

>not being Murderer master race
Enjoy being irrelevant while MC and his partner solve everything, I'll just sit right here with an ENTIRE case dedicated to me~