Yeah, the writing is almost as good as the sequel.
Christopher Turner
FFXIII has some of the worst writing I have ever seen in a modern videogame.
It's not even a fucking exaggeration.
Bentley Diaz
Final Fantasy is and has always been trashy pulp, the light novels of video games. That being said you are correct that XIII is the nadir of the series.
Leo Lewis
Nah the stories of XII and XV are great. And even when the story's shit the world usually picks up the slack like with Spira in X.
James Wright
What the fuck is it with you people. Sup Forums has complained that this game is utter shit for years. YEARS. Since the day it fucking came out, Sup Forums has unanimously agreed this game is garbage.
And yet, despite all that, people constantly make threads acting all fucking surprised that the game is bad. You want to play a bad game, fine, have fun. But why do you have to make another thread explaining why a game everyone knows is bad is bad?
Daniel Roberts
Because people here claim the characters and story are fine.
Thomas Sanders
>XV are great >XV
No.
Zachary Price
Explain what's wrong with its story other than pacing.
Joseph Cook
I'm downloading FF13-2 right now.
Got around 10 hours into FF13 and called it quits.
Will I be lost? Is 13-2 even good?
Landon Edwards
whats best is they will completely flip flop their motivation between scenes and act like nothings changed and you will barely notice it because they use the same words
>FUCK MY FOCUS I WONT LET THAT FALCIE KILL OPRHAN WE HAVE TO SAVE COCOON
>FUCK ORPHAN LETS KILL HIM AND THE FALCIE AND WHO CARES ABOUT COCOON
Zachary Wilson
XII's story is pretty garbage but at least by virtue of being a derivative star wars knock off it is consistent and makes sense.
Lincoln Diaz
Why are you even downloading it if you didn't finish 13? Also Lightning Returns is the best out of the three and doesn't relly require you to have played the previous games.
Ryan Mitchell
>>repeatedly say they will oppose Bathandelus by doing nothing >continue to do the things he TELLS them to do despite saying they wouldn't without ever even being manipulated into doing them
I have never been so utterly baffled by characters actions in my life.
Grayson Myers
not that user but it was neat until the leviathan shit
after that literally what the actual fuck
also gladio being a passive aggressive bitch was obnoxious
because I was looking through my PS3 purchase history and realized at some point or another I bought the game and never played it
Ian Robinson
>after that literally what the actual fuck I mean it makes sense though. Like seriously Ardyn's motivation and arc is actually really interesting, the postmodern shit of #13 is very well handled in an MGS kind of way, and the ending is fucking beautiful.
Isaiah Ward
At least the music is nice.
On steam? It runs like shit. I had to stop playing after 10 hours because it was dropping to 20fps and there were weird slowdowns in gameplay.
William Rodriguez
Nevermind I see you have it on PS3 which is fine.
Colton Foster
I'm not knocking it, I found it interesting too. It was just weird and the game felt so different. Best vidyer music in a long ass time tho.
PS3 version
Isaiah Miller
>people still think FF13 is better than FF15
Jace Thompson
I think they are both bad.
I hope we get a goof FF game some day.
Owen Moore
...
Asher Peterson
There's been a couple of XIII defenders crawling out of the woodworks after XV came out.
Leo Stewart
>people still think they make good FF games
Luke Phillips
X, XII, and XV are all phenomenal.
Luke Brooks
I'm one of them
Josiah Scott
>themepark MMO >good
Levi Martinez
>>Will I be lost? Is 13-2 even good? Form your own opinion you little shit.
Matthew Rodriguez
You mean to tell me that pulse l'cie are enemies of cocoon? Is that right?
Benjamin Cook
>XV >X >XII >phenomenal
Nigga...
Luke Wood
Yo, say what you will about FFXIII, but XIII-2 is a really good game.
Evan Watson
Yeah but they don't even know their focus. Then boom. C'ieth city.
Kayden Lewis
No, it's not.
It's the least bad of the three, but I would never call it good.
Henry Johnson
If when you say pacing, you mean the fact that tons of things happen off screen with little to no mention, and nothing makes sense, and everything is really anticlimactic and poorly executed. That being said, the ending was really nice.
Ryder Morales
>and nothing makes sense Haha are you still in high school or just out of it?
Adam Jones
Did FFXV cause a lot of shitposting when it released? I was off Sup Forums at that time
Hunter White
FF hasn't been good or relevant since 2001.
You should have expected it to be trash.
Asher Price
Bailey Jay cosplayed as Vanille.
Jayden Barnes
XIII-2 is super good imo.
Christopher Johnson
yes
Juan Barnes
Most shitposting was just saying "IT'LL BE A TOTAL FLOP JUST WATCH"
But of course it was a success critically and financially, so they don't talk about it much anymore
Dylan Cox
>Sazh lil' nigglet Dajh Durango gets turned into a l'cie >OH LAWD JESUS WHAT'S HIS FOCUS >Loses the kid >finds the kid again >"Daddy I found you :)" >turns into a crystal >wat
One of the many baffling moments in this Shakespearean epic.
Julian Price
Yeah i agree, in concept its all really cool. In execution though, its horribly done. The game was just unfinished. Makes me sad too.
Ryder Butler
Someone rushed through the game before release in 11 hours so there were a lot of shitposts about that
Blake Walker
>But of course it was a success critically and financially, so they don't talk about it much anymore
pfft
Evan Turner
But you get to look at Lightning in all of them
David Collins
I really enjoyed it. Hopping through time and solving each area's problems was always interesting to me. Serah and Noel weren't annoying either, and Caius and Yeul were interesting characters.
Adrian Flores
Kek no LR>>XIII>XIII-2 XIII-2 did fix some things but the pokémon system and the bland actual party members (TWO, in a fucking party based rpg) ruined it.
Blake Ross
Did someone say Shakespearean?
Parker Garcia
Ffxiv ARR was the best final fantasy since the original PlayStation
Landon Myers
It makes me sad because I loved all of it and yeah if it just had more fleshed out then it would be my favorite of all time
Thomas Rogers
>responding to an argument with an insult sigh...
Charles Watson
eat a dick
Ian Hernandez
Me too.
Easton Cruz
So is the PC port good or not? I keep hearing conflicting opinions
Benjamin Murphy
Not OP but I played and finished 13 last month because I want to play the entire trilogy for some reason.
I really wish I hadn't bothered but I didn't have anything else to play at the time. I'm 5 or so hours in 13-2 and I haven't touched it in weeks so I don't think I will get to finish the trilogy.
Leo Carter
I guess I was correct since you dodged the question.
Lucas Roberts
They kept changing the story and decided important parts should be relegated into a trash tie in movie to wring more money out the hype.
Jaxson Morales
Reminder that Bloodborne straight up copied ffxiii's music.
Bentley Roberts
>its actually true
Jayden Johnson
Hey, you clearly haven't played the game so go ahead and leave. We aren't talking about that part of the game kid.
Colton Williams
>You can't dodge at all. >Sentinels can kind of dodge but only sometimes. >There are enemies that can back dash on command.
Fuck you.
Carson Parker
Which tracks are you thinking of? I think I know what you're talking about but I can't quite remember.
Eli Taylor
Aren't you the one dodging it? Respond to what I said with an actual counter argument.
Xavier Thompson
There's ear-piercing J-pop all over the place in Bloodborne?
Nolan Jones
After having to remove some shit from my registry and having to turn off most of my security protocols it ran perfectly the rest of the time. you can always refund it if it runs like shit or not at all
Carson Clark
It's actually horrible. Runs like ass, and locked to 30 fps by default.
Yeah, its too bad. Why the fuck they thought it would be a good idea to leave out so much backstory is beyond me.
Logan Jones
eh, I like it
Carter Robinson
Vanille or Lightning? You may pick only ONE!
Bentley Ward
1. these aren't even close to being ripped off in Bloodborne 2. goddamn thank you for reminding me how good the soundtrack is, I should buy it.
Nolan Rivera
Vanille, i can't stand lightning's edgelord act. They're both shitty characters though
Christopher Gutierrez
All flaws aside after all these years I have played a game that assumes the player is a fucking retard as much as 13 does, not even the most casual and railroad-y of games have reached what 13 does so easily.
I can't fathom how low the self-esteem of people that defend this game must be. The game calls you a mouthbreather right at your face and you ask for seconds.
Jackson Davis
I never got why people hate it so much, is it the story? The combat? What the fuck is it about 13 that triggers you so hard
Isaiah Turner
You guys can fuck right off, XIII-2 was a great game. If it wasn't called FF, you guys would be calling sucking its proverbial dick.
Josiah Turner
Vanille doesn't qualify in anyway as shitty.
Aaron Nelson
Read the OP. >If it wasn't expected to be good we'd appreciate its mediocrity Rock solid argument.
Nicholas Richardson
I will fukin fight you m8
Caleb Foster
Hell yeah, XIII-2 is super good. Loved every minute of it.
Lincoln Reed
VIII says hi.
Bentley Young
>Was hyped for XIII since it was announced >Play it >Couldn't bring myself to beat it
A part of me that loved video games died that day. I still do, but it just is not the same.
James Fisher
>XIII is the nadir of the series.
False.
XV exists.
Austin Sanchez
Lightning. Vanille is high-octane boner fuel but Light has beauty and grace that Vanille has no hope of matching.
The first track sounds a bit like Yahar'gul but only for a few seconds. The second track doesn't sound like anything from Bloodborne to me.
Jack Diaz
If it wasn't called FF it would just be another generic weeb JRPG except with good character designs
Elijah Bailey
It's bandwagoning. The game is almost exactly like X. The main gripe is that past chapter 8 battles requires some effort, so it can make the game drag. Chapter 9 is straight bullshit, too.
Colton Watson
Literally this and X-2 are the best ff games. Prove me wrong Sup Forums.
Jaxon Peterson
It just hit me how much FFXII-2 and Tales of Symphonia 2 resemble each other.
They're both mostly unneeded sequels to an jrpg in which the cast is replaced by people with a tangential relation at best with the original crew, both reduce the originals to meaningless cameos, and both new crews consist of of a couple with a weird sexual tension going and their many pokemons.
I now I'm stretching it a bit but the resemblance is still uncanny.
Adam Lewis
X's storyline had a goal that you understood through the entire game. XIII just sort of happens for the first 20 hours
Elijah Scott
In what way is it exactly like X?
Chase Carter
>tfw you liked XIII and beat it twice
It's just a long rollercoaster ride guys. The charcaters arent any worse than most of the those in X and XII.
Call me contrarian but XIII was okay and it's sequels are actually pretty good.
Lincoln Cook
Vanille is the most poorly-written "genki girl" type of character that I have ever seen. She's so bad, in fact, that she almost comes across as a caricature or a parody of her character type. It's horrible.
Aaron Powell
Pretty spot on Tenebie>Mog
Oliver Johnson
just like it would if you'd become a public enemy out of fucking nowhere, it's actually pretty realistic plot-wise
Jordan Miller
VII and VIII exist
David James
She acts like someone with minor/major autism for the majority of her screen time
Carson Long
No, not true. X's characters actually develop quite a lot and despite their quirks are generally pretty likeable. I hate every single character in XIII because they have no real personality.
Alexander Martin
There's nothing mediocre about it except for Serah. If you treat the game like Noel is the MC then it's really neat. I say that if it would be praised as a non-FF because FFXIII and it's sequels are hated for no real specific reasons that can't already be attributed to other FFs.
Owen James
we warned you this game was trash what did you expect?
the game single handedly killed the brand name of the biggest RPG franchise, that speaks volumes about how bad it is