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>Charizard was the worst starter by science.
Correct.

Pokefags are autistic manchilds wasting their lives arguing over a childrens game

>pro pokemon analysis articles
Some people have too much free time on their hands.

is that why you're posting on Sup Forums?

Good thing I don't take smogon or anything they ever say seriously.

Bulbasour looked fucking stupid in the 90's.

I always go with the water starter anyway, get at me

Charizard might be the worst gen 1 starter, but it's definitely the one with the better porn, so that makes him a winner in my book.

>smogon said this
>smogon said that

Does smogon also brush your teeth, wipe your ass, and tuck you in at night?

fuck you

I'm a Smogonfag but this dude literally could not contain his autism. What's the point of a paragraph-long explanation on a dumb facebook joke that just appeals to popular opinion?

It's like leaving a serious reply to anyone who shares a post from Screen Rant.

Yeah, what about it?

It's not that difficult to calculate especially if you just game shark all the relevant Pokemon in your inventory with max stats

Pretty sure best overall starter in Gen 1 was Blastoise however, but Charizard is most surely the worst especially with the bestiality crowd

So Sup Forums and /vp/?

>length is 2.4 American meters and also 15 american kilograms

fags crying over who is number two

squirtle is better because when he evolves he gets a gun

how many pokemon have guns?

check mate

>tfw we never got this objectively better card
>also never got the ivysaur, squirtle or wartortle, all of which were objectively better than the base set versions
shit sucks

That's kiddy art, it wouldn't even sell in America.

Doubles is the only format in which pokemon should ever be played competitively, singles are a fucking joke. Go shove a mega kangaskhan up your ass.

No, this is kiddy art, and is still better than Base Squirtle.

you mean people picked who was statistically the best and not their favorite in a game meant for children?

If they added a Pokemon today with a gun (that isn't a robot or something else with justification for it- of which Blastoise has none) autists across the globe would cry foul and shit themselves about Digimon ruining their childhood or something.

Heh, on Sup Forums we like games with guns and blood. so no, sorry kid.

rhyperior?

PPPRRRRAAAPPPPPP

I like these but Aritas art was fantastic
They're better than the card art that was just official art of the pokemon pasted on to a background though, Ill give you that

>how many pokemon have guns?

It's a good thing being the Autists choice and Gamefreak's wonder boy means Charizard will be more relevant that fatosaur will be for years to come.

>"competitive" pokemon
Now THAT'S a joke.

Furfags and normies both hate him and Magmortar, yeah.

Blastoise has actual literal metal guns sticking out of an otherwise organic body. That is straight up Digimon except he doesn't really look that menacing or wear belts on his fingers.

Isn't it pretty much a constant in Pokemon that fire is one of the worst available type, partially due to its limited type matchups and poor skillsets? I thought only Poison surpassed it, and that was because Posion was weak to one of the strongest types in the game.

lmao getting this mad for choosing the stupidest looking one

So when did you realize that Bulbasaur was objectively the best of the three?

For me I thought it was when I played through Fire Red the second time after realizing how stupid it was to have a Charizard with three fire attacks and finally beat the rematch against Blue/Gary. Actually understanding how status moves worked really made the game more interesting.

i like playing competitive pokemon but its impossible to take seriously

too much rng, meta is very lame

bug's not awesome either. ice used to be good, then it got cucked by fairy

Charizard wasn't even a bad choice until the advent of Pernicious Pebbles

Go back to your containment board.

>You want another joke?
WHAT DID HE SAY

why did you get mad

In gen 1 there weren't any high power grass moves, this game was pants on head retarded competitively until they re-worked physical/special in Gen 4 and by then I had stopped caring.

machamp

That Bulbasaur is literally drawn by Mitsuhiro Arita, dummy.

Although I agree he's a fantastic artist and all of his cards across the ages are excellent. As a kid I specifically collected cards illustrated by him, but in recent years Kawayoo took the spot as my favorite artist. His stuff is super dynamic and the colors are always fucking amazing.

it always surprises me how truly autistic Pokemon is when you don't just play it casually. Especially since none of it fucking matters at all in the larger picture

It's funny because Charizard is actually one of the most dangerous sweepers in GSC.

>Taking fucking pokemon seriously

My man

Bulbasaur was the second best choice in gen 1, charmander WAS the worst. Not sure how it really plays out in gen 3 but in 6 Charizard is probably best for X while Venusaur is best for Y.

>feet
>meters
???

MODS
THATS AN MLP IMAGE

MOOOODS

>charmander
normie

>squirtle
contrarian

>bulbasaur
The few of these faggots that existed didn't feel smart enough picking squirtle, so they went with the starter no one gave a shit about. A goddamn double-contrarian. They were presented a badass fire breathing dragon, and Bowser with motherfucking water cannons, and what did they pick? A fatass frog with a dandelion on its ass.

Facts.

>none of it matters in the larger picture
You just described 90% of what people argue about

>someone makes a shitty 7 word joke
>pokefag delivers a paragraph of autistic nonsense that inevitably references smogon
Really makes you think

The move overhauls in gen 2 really helped. Charizard was trash in RBY.

Oh yeah, I forget about Bug since it's probably one of the universal worst types and almost always paired with poison too.

squirtle guy here, spot on

That is even worse autism than speedrunning and that's saying something

>the bullfrog with a flower growing out of it
>not badass

More like:

>charmander
normie

>squirtle
nerd and/or contrarian

>bulbasaur
that sissy that got picked on in school

I was a squirtle kid

REEEEEEEE LEAVE BULBA ALONE

>They were presented a badass fire breathing dragon
Are we still talking about gen 1? Because those didn't exist back then.

>Discuss.
Okay.

>Charizard was the worst starter
True. Bad against Brock, bad against Misty. Good against Erika and grass types, but Psychic (the best typing in Gen 1) were also good against Erika. Weak against the very common Water, weak against the very common Electric (thanks to Water popularity), weak to Rock, and didn't have its resistance to Ice. Sure, you could still use one, but it wasn't exactly one of the top Fire-types until it got a Mega turning it into Fire/Dragon or the Drought ability.

>Venusaur is OU since gen 2
Really? I always thought it was pretty terrible. It got chewed up by Ice Beam (nullifying its best use) and absolutely killed by Psychic. It's a bit better now with its Mega removing the Ice weakness, and with Psychic a lot less common, but back in Gen 2 it would be good against... what? Dugtrio and Donphan?

I guess it would be handy against Fighting-types, but Fighting was about as common as Grass back then.

>to this very day it's still at the top of grass starter pokemon
Let's be fair, that isn't exactly much of a competition. Sceptile was pretty good at the time (relatively speaking) and Torterra was quite interesting, at least. I doubt that it's beating Chesnaught without the Mega form, though.

charmander/squirtle was pretty much 50/50 you snowflake

You forgot about half the board being nintenyearolds, but nice damage control, beech.

Sadly Gen 4 was still the pinnacle of competitive balance. Even with MUH GARCHOMP wrecking shit the disparity between the best Pokemon and the average Pokemon wasn't nearly as high, and you could get away with using pretty creative teams and strategies while still standing a fighting chance.

Gen 5 fucked up power levels with some busted hidden abilities and the stupid-as-fuck weather wars making it mandatory for every team to dedicate slots to a weather setter and at least one weather abuser. Introduced Genies.

Gen 6 nerfed weather but increased the disparity between Pokemon by leagues with Mega Evolution. Genies ruin what was left over in the wake of Mega-Kangaskhan.

Gen 7 online is nearly all legendaries all the time so far, and weather's spiritual sequel returned with the Tapus compounded with Megastones and Z-moves it's just a fucking mess in every regard.

Kill yourself, degenerate
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>taiatari
>body blow -> tackle
>happa kata
>leaf blade
>ikeru
>go/retreat
>fushigidane
Is that how you say bulbasaur in japanese?

How in the fuck

I liked him in the anime.

How did you not like Squirtle Squad better?
I can understand liking him better than Charmander after he becomes a massive cunt after evolving though

Has to be a ruse

I like the color green.
Nigga was kind of teal but he had green on him.
How green are charmander and squirtle?

>charizard
>badass fire breathing dragon
Its a fucking orange manlet.

>autists managed to turn a children's adventure game into a competitive minmax spreadsheet theorycrafting game

I'm not familiar with competitive gen 1 play, but wouldn't Venasaur be total shit in the psychic type meta?

Smashfags are worse.

>reposted thousands of times
>b-b-b-b-b-but how??????

This

No they're not. Smash is at least a competitively viable game. Pokemon and it's RNG filled gameplay is a joke, the entire metagame revolves around reducing the effect of RNG.

Lets be real here. Aside from Rowlet unevolved, pic related is the best starter.

which ones bulbasuar?

Who gives a fuck about the art? If the card is good, use it. If the art is bad, alter it.

>almost always paired with poison too.

>18 pure Bug types
>12 Bug/Poison types
>50 Bug/other types

Yeah, Bug is almost always paired with Poison, sure.

Bug's an amazing offensive typing. It hits Psychic, Grass, and Dark for double damage and doesn't give a fuck. Some of the most powerful Pokemon in the game are Bug.

Bulbasaur is brave and reliable.
Squirtle may be cool, but Bulbasaur was like a poke that would got you covered no matter what.

Also:
throwing razor-like leaves and whipping niggas with vines >>> gulping water and bubbles

Ok, let's see if I can get everything wrong here
>Charizard with dark nails
>Brendan with white hair and no hat
>Poke'mon
>Charizard being a dragon
>Skyrim shouthing Fus Ro Dah without the actual effects of the shout happening
>your

If it was a competitive viable game they wouldn't have to have tons of rules in place outside and inside the game like having to turn items off and no ledge stalling.You're right that Pokemon is shit as well though.

Damn right only braindead normalfags picks charmander and squirtle. I bet you are the kind of retard who uses ember, flamethrower, flame spin and fire blast as moveset.

the Dom R-35

(male)

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Speed influenced crit chance and so everything in Gen 1 meta was fast as fuck. Most of it was Psychic as well, thanks to that only being resisted by Psychic-types and the only thing that Psychic-types were vulnerable to was Leech Life, Twineedle, and Pin Missile. A whopping total of five(?) Pokemon could learn any of those moves, half were Poison-types and only Beedrill/Jolteon learned anything but Leech Life.

So yeah, I don't see how Venusaur would be any good in Gen 1. Especially since the only thing it could possible stop might be Dugtrio (which would also have Slash/Rock Slide) or Electrode (which would certainly have Explode). Poison was weak to Bug back then, so Jolteon's Pin Missile would do 4x damage to Venusaur.

>ywn ejaculate so hard you're propelled through the air

>Psychic type meta

Which Tauros murdered, being the best non-Mew/Mewtwo Pokemon in Generation I.

People who think Charizard is the best starter are the types of idiot who took that difficulty setting meta-idea seriously.

Unless you liked Charizard because you thought he looked cool. You keep doing you, friend.

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of Blaziken being in Ubers.

>4 years old
>not picking the dragon on the box

I bet most kids did the same.

I wouldn't say "murdered", but he kept it in check so that you couldn't run through with a team of all Psychics.

Actually, without Tauros, the RBY meta would be stall-ish and heavily special-based.

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I think he looks cool now after he becomes xXEdgeZardXx, but as a non-mega he was always just too bland to hold my interest. He doesn't really have any striking features besides a lil' bit of fire on his tail. He's like the Dewgong or Tauros equivalent of a not-dragon.

Eh, Chansey was still a thing.