The 2 defining games of this generation

>the 2 defining games of this generation
>both PS4 exclusives

Pure pottery, Sony can't stop winning

Neither of those are defining games of their generation. Nioh will be forgotten pretty quickly, and while Bloodborne won't be, it's not all that different from previous Souls games (Dark Souls really was generation defining) and it won't influence much.

Shame they're both the same genre

>bloodborne won't influence much
>the game next to it in OP's pic is exactly that

thats not rocket league

The only good PS4 game is Yakuza 0.

Everything else is weeb-shit. Even BB and Nioh are too easy and boring. The souls formula is stale now.

They didn't get the idea from Bloodborne. They got it from the games Bloodborne carried its ideas from.

Shame they're not on a platform that matters.

What? Nioh has more in common with fucking Blade Symphony than Bloodborne.

Bloodborne changed the formula, look at what they did to DS3 to try and match that experience. BB is a functionally better version of DS and I won't be shocked when more games take inspiration from BB rather than DS

But they are on PS4

Why do people suck Bloodborne's dick when every other souls game is better than it besides DS2? Aesthetic is NOT what makes the game.

You forgot darksouls

Bloodborne is certainly better than the Dark Souls sequels but it's not as good as the original Dark Souls. It surpasses it in a few areas but not overall, and it lacks the "greater than the sum of its parts" element that Dark Souls does so well.

>das3 better than anything but Das2

(you)

Because it's the easiest and shortest one

>BB salts gets worse every day

absolute trash opinion

BB > Das1 > des > POWER GAP > das3 > das 2

all dlc so far considered

Sony is shit and Nioh is a third party game so its exclusivity is questionable

Mmm, the level of delusion here is delicious. Yum yum yum.

>not realizing this Sony exclusives memery doesn't make it out of Sup Forums and normal people don't even care the slightest

The defining games of this gen so far are Witcher 3, Siege and maybe RE7

>Sup Forums says GOTY awards don't matter after Skyrim, Shadow of Mordor, and Dragon Age Inquisition

>suddenly acts like they matter for the witcher 3

>putting a ninja gaiden knockoff on the same level as Bloodborne

>Thinking either of those soulless clones are better than pure vidya perfection

I don't care if you don't agree with me, but Bloodborne is a wet shit in tight pants on a hot day.

>das3 better than Das2


(You)

>PvPfag

end your life

>miyazakifag

end your life

>rehash and spin-off are the best games ever

Even CoD fans aren't THIS autistic.

The defining game of this generation will be Nier Automata, which isn't an exclusive.

You beat the entirety of nioh already and all available twilight missions? Bravo friend

I agree more with this guy
Why the fuck would a rehash and a knockoff be a generation defining experience? I'm on the fence about buying Nioh still, it can be hard to trust Sup Forums's opinion since this board dicksucks anything made in Japan so much they say FFXV is good.

Ninja Gaiden has always been better than Souls games.

Yummy yum yum ^^

Yakuza 0 is better than Nioh, though. Still PS4 exclusive, and you soulsbabbies need to get some taste.

The ninja Gaiden games have too many awful levels and cheese tactics to be considered better than the souls games.

It's a good thing Bloodborne isn't a souls game.

>Sup Forums hates rehashes for games like CoD, Mario, assassin's creed, etc

>suddenly acts like a souls rehash is the best thing ever

Alright, I've been seeing people fellatio Siege recently, especially in For Honor threads. Is the game actually good, or am I being shilled on?

It is.

>no argument, just more autism

yum yummy yum yum

I need more (You), I know you'll respond.

If you played it, which you havent because you don't have a PS4, you'd know it isn't.

>It's a good thing Bloodborne isn't a souls game.

>It's a good thing Bloodborne isn't a souls game

What did he mean by this?

It isn't.

I have played it. Bloodborne is a Souls game. Whether it is legally part of the same franchise is irrelevant, just like it's Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are part of the same series regardless of what IP laws say.

>DeS is a Souls game

>defining games
>nobody played them but a small fraction of the PS4 community

Overwatch influenced gaming more than any of those just because it is multiplat.

>Story is on par with DS
>combat system is without a doubt way better
>combat system realises parrying is a thing and rather than just make everything immune to it makes it a core mechanic, rather than just a feature
>weapons are all varied and unique
>level design doesn't completely fall apart at the half way point (crystal caves/ToG/LI are fucking garbage and we all know it)
>pvp is way better (besides unlimited healing which is fucking shit)

Honestly as I sit here I can think of almost nothing that isn't a direct upgrade to DS. PVP actually exists in a form that isn't GIANT DAD or backstab fishing, so that's nice. Bosses are better for the most part. Sure some of the motifs in DS are better, but anyone who says Ornstein and Smough/kings/Seethe/GWYN/or half the other bosses are well designed are idiots. O&S in particular, who everyone remembers because Smough is fucking hillarious, the fight is hard, but for all the wrong reasons. As soon as you realize you just need to play keep away for 10 fucking minutes as you look for the occasional opening it's just an exercise in tedium.

Dark Souls has become the video game equivalent of Seinfeld. Where everyone holds it up because it was revolutionary, good, and came in when youtuber rage was super popular. But it's no where near as good as it's contemporaries.

Nioh is boring as fuck, all bosses have like only 4 attacks they actually use which are incredibly easy to tell between. That and the fact that they give you half a second to react. Damage sponges are the worse way to back a game "difficult".

If Bloodborne won any GOTY awards then people would still say it counts. Despite having made like 50 games, From is considered moderately niche and small as a developer and wouldn't be put on the level of Ubisoft or Bethesda or other monolith companies who can and do easily buy reviews all the time.

This same general rule applies to CDPR, because at least before TW3 they were not a monolith company.

Which actually says a lot when you make 1 game that is more successful than a companies entire long lifetime of making them.

So you're retarded. Got it.

Witcher 3 had a larger marketing budget than its development budget.

>Yakuza is not weeb

Only sony ponies really give a shit about the ps4, and these two games are the only things they have to show for their brand loyalty. it's really sad.

your bait is going too far m8. pull back now.

none of these are "defining games of this generation". bb is an improved version of a game that definied an entire genre, nioh is a game that tries to jump on the hype-train with appealing to weebs. it will be forgotten in 3 months

I'd say maybe From should market their games more then because not even 5% of PS4s userbase has played Bloodborne, but I think after this many Souls rehashes it's not that people don't know, but that they don't care.

Like nobody knew what Witcher was or who CDPR is before 3.

Care to show the sales of those "defining games"?

Nioh is basically a weeb Lords of the Fallen

source

Played it at a friends house, it's a good Souls game.

>Demons Souls
>Sony eyclusive
>This game sucks!

>Dark souls 1, 2, 3
>on PC
>Greatest games of all time

>Bloodborne
>Sony exclusive
>This game sucks!

The defining game is Witcher 3.

We can go on about quality all day, but that's not really what the argument is about. Witcher 3 is set to actually be influential, it set a new standard for how to handle open world games and the expectations around them. That hit home with gaming media and the average person.

I'd say games like Bloodborne, Tropical Freeze, Xenoblade X, Ori and a few others are better, but none of them hit the mainstream in same way. They won't have same lasting impact on other games made this generation.

>I'd say maybe From should market their games more then because not even 5% of PS4s userbase has played Bloodborne
That's roughly the percentage of PS4 users that would want to play Bloodborne. A focused game with a relatively high level of difficulty and no handholding is a lot less appealing than open world cinematic batman vision.

Nobody said this, fuck of with your shitty black and white mentality and persecution complex you fucking sonygger

>Xenoblade X
>not the origonal
fuck off xeno x was so lackluster compared to its predecessor

Don't forget ARK.

For as shit as it is, many, many people still play it.

It even has 'Souls' in its name, and Dark Souls is its sucessor in everything but the story (arguably). What makes it less a predecessor to Dark souls than Dark souls 2 to Dark Souls 3?

I know you are a troll and don't expect an answer, but it would be fun if anyone could argue this

Interesting how all Xeno fanboys seem to be mentally retarded. It's almost as if there's a pattern...

You see, the original Xenoblade came out last generation and thus may as well not even exist for the purposes of this thread.

What the fuck are you talking about? I don't think I've ever seen anyone saying Bloodborne or DeS sucks. Are you new?

This. Rocket League is a gift from god and is literally perfection in form of gaming.

I'm pretty sure games like Rocket League and Undertale have been more influencial and generation defining.

BB only sold 2 millions copies, right?

>Bloodborne
>defining
>when it barely sold 2 million copies
>60% of which didn't pass the first boss

Yeah keep telling yourself its because "the game is too good" that people dont buy it

>many people still play it.
i had no idea that so many people on steam were human garbage. What the actual fuck

>tfw no qt blacksmith gf

It's sold even more on Consoles.
What's your problem with it?

>this much damage control
I bet you never even beat the first one. Fuck off and kys faggot

If I've only played Demon's Souls and Bloodborne how fucked will I be in Nioh?

I've played Ninja Gaiden Black too.

Why haven't you played Dark Souls?

>Nioh is easy, but GTA wannabe with QTEs isn't

Why would I?

the fact its been in early acess for like 2 years and they had the nerve to ship out an "Expansion" for it. The gameplay is clunky and lackluster.

The world design, combat, exploration and customisation are far better. You know it's true.

I'd much rather take Breath Of the Wild, then either one of those, Desu~

I'd rather play Witcher 3 than breath of the uninspired.

I'm as keen on that as anyone else, but it's not even out. Stop that shit.

But GOTY awards are given fro the wrong reasons.

Witcher 3's strength are its looks, characters and story. Casuals tend to appreciate games for anything but the gameplay. On top of that, Witcher 3 sailed on the Game of Thrones wave: Fantasy setting, tits and violence.


BB didn't play it safe. With its setting they tried something new and it was a breath of fresh air from all the well known genres we have in recent vidya gaem history. The gameplay is undeniably better as is pacing and atmosphere.


BB is objectively a better video game but GOTY awards aren't measured by video game metrics. They have to look pretty and have a hollywood-like story.

>objectively
You don't know what that word means.

>objectively

>Got Bloodborne today and already played 7 hours

Fucking awesome game. But I admit part of the enjoyment comes from the abilty to use a usb save because the checkpoints are too far from each other. Fuck those dual werewolves.

>I'd rather play Witcher 3

To bad the gameplay sucks, or i might agree with ya

I gurantee iv played both games longer than you have as im on my 3rd playthrough of x right now grinding out materials for the ares 90.

The world design is not better, the combat is exactly the same as the last one, the customization is literally for autistic faggots who cant stand having predetermined characters, etc etc.

The only thing i like better in X is being able to fly around and explore in a skell. Other than that the first beats it in every way possible, especially when it comes to story and characters. I think Nagi and the 2 lesbian cat like people were the only interesting characters in the whole game. Linly and Elma were mary sues, the MC was a nonimportant side character with no role, Lao was an edgy faggot (i dont care if his wife and child died you dont try to genocide your entire race), Gwin was your typical niceguy cuck chasing after a closeted lesbian.

Too*

>Souls shit
NAH. Yakuza 0 is this gens GOTY

You can die way faster in Nioh than in any of those games, but enemies can be taken down quickly with decent planning, too. So I guess it depends on your gameplay style.

Why would you not?

They both have some of the best atmosphere this gen. Contrary to popular belief, in your face horror is not the only kind of atmosphere.

>I've only watched Star Wars 1 and 7
>Why didn't you watch 2-6?
>why would I?