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I don't see anything wrong with his argument.

The posters in the undertale /vg/ thread need to be gassed though.

>being so mad over a comment on YouTube that you make a thread about it
Damn...

i like how pic related tried to argue undermeme was a gud game with pretentious stuff like:

>a message of a peace of pacifism that made you question all your actions in games
>and possibly even life

wow, talk about shilling.
you see, the game never "had" any good plot or "genius" "meta-narrative" or whatever buzz word reviewers use today

no, the game simply has a black and white morality system (ill get onto this later), poor presentation, music is average and too much same-y, and the fucking characters are 2sue4you.

The whole basis of undermeme is that "oh peace and sunshine and rainbows is good", so if you do a pacifist run you will be friends with furries all over the underground and just constantly get diabetes.

The way the game treats Neutral/Genocide runs is my fucking problem though.

Wow, if i kill ONE monster who was trying to kill me im suddenly a demon.

And, if me, a scared human child in the middle of fucking nowhere, decides to singlehandedly destroy whatever caused the war between humans and monsters and do humanity a service, im fucking satan and i should die.

And the characters are too much Mary Sue and cliché.
There's the "le funni jokes bro with a deep and dark past" Sans, the "le funni dumb bro" Papyrus, "the nice and cozy goat mom" Toriel, "literally hitler" Flowey, "the shy otaku who has hidden depths because shes shy LOL tricked ya" Alphys, "the shounen protagonist" Undyne and "The nice king" Asgore.
oh fuck i forgot the "hidden" characters:
"the goat bro who is emo and has a dark past" Asriel and "literally hitler HAHA HES YOU BECAUSE YOU NAMED HIM SO FOURTH WALL BREAKING" Chara/or whatever shit you name him (probably Piccolo)

It's shit like that, that really makes me pissed off when anybody calls the story even good.

The music is average, nothing home to write about. Some people call it amazing because of the repeating tones and themes but i say laziness.

Graphics, presentation and tone is all over the place.

>Undertale sucks, it says so on Sup Forums!

i don't even know what a video game is anymore

can someone tell me?

I mean,if you murder someone in real life there are generally consequences. I think maybe the game was hitting on that. If you got outside some maybe you'd know

A mistake

Something on a TV/monitor that you interact with a controller or a keyboard/mouse.

do not sexualize the mado

not him, but the consequences of killing a human in undertale are not as emphasized as the consequences of killing a monster.

VIDEO
GAME

As in a game on a screen.

>Wow, if i kill ONE monster who was trying to kill me im suddenly a demon.
>ONE monster who was trying to kill me
>trying to kill me

Video game logic can't really crossover to IRL that easily.
Going by your IRL to Undermeme comparison.

If ISIS tries to kidnap me and i kill the guy who tried to chop my head off and runaway, am i really a bad person?

If i fucking raid all terrorist bases to create world peace, am i really fucking satan and should i die for saving billions of lives in the desert?

The comparison itself makes no sense and this should not be an analogy to real life.

If the game is about teaching basic morals (don't kill, be good person, etc), i literally have no comment.

This is coming from a person who, 4 months ago was fucking OBSESSED with Undertale, even seeing the datamines and fan theories and shit.

I didn't even mention the tumblr humor and forced memes, but that is relative to people so i'll leave that.

>making a thread over a youtube comment

and i thought we couldn't go any lower then twitter screencaps

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at least its Sup Forumsidya related and not e-celeb

>"literally hitler HAHA HES YOU BECAUSE YOU NAMED HIM SO FOURTH WALL BREAKING" Chara/or whatever shit you name him (probably Piccolo)
>or whatever shit you name him (probably Piccolo)

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thanks doc

I think you started the game with the wrong expectations, mate.

It's not Ulysses, of course it isn't, it's just a cartoony little game with a nice sense of humour, endearing if somewhat one-note characters and some clever ways of breaking the fourth wall.

You can't watch Ducktales and expect 8 1/2, that's just not reasonable, man.

I love it when people use Ulysses as an example of something "good".

I used it as an example for something experimental, convoluted and extremely influential.

Ok, proceed with not being a faggot. I can't refute any of that.

Enjoy your moment...and your (you).

>play UnderTale
>"don't kill monsters in any game ever even when provoked"
>go play FF6 afterwards
>try to spare the Narshe soldiers
>game over
Thanks Toby.

can i get a quick rundown? im not gonna read all of that

The Sup Forums antithesis: People should stop fighting each other over opinions.

The Sup Forums thesis: People are not willing to inform themselves because "im not gonna read all of that", yet want to participate in gabbing about it.

>Toby Fox created a message of peace and pacifism
NO
FUCK NO
COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT

>Doesn't give you right to trashtalk

I already have it, it's called freedom of speech.

Every time. It's always them asking for respect for free.

If you want to be respected, you must first be worth respecting.

i agree for all games

hypocritical much?

i agree with the weird pacifism message they give is odd.
i like this game
but it kinda falls apart before getting halfway into it.

>Toby Fox created a message of peace and pacifism
what the fuck was his earthbound halloween hack supposed to convey then?