>Sonic Generations
>"This is the definition of a game playing it safe."
>Sonic Lost World
>"This game REEKS of experimentation."
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>"I just want a good game, is that so much to ask?"
Is there anything that could potentially please all Sonic fans?
>Sonic Generations
>"This is the definition of a game playing it safe."
>Sonic Lost World
>"This game REEKS of experimentation."
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>"I just want a good game, is that so much to ask?"
Is there anything that could potentially please all Sonic fans?
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No because sonic as been diluted through so many game play styles that everyone has a different opinion.
No. There have been too many different styles over the years, and they all have their own fans. Not possible to appeal to them all.
This
It's impossible now.
SA2 sonic/shadow stages is where it was at.
Mania.
They got so much right with SA2. Is there really no way to work on-foot Tails and Knuckles into those types of action stages as well?
Nerf Knuckles's glide a bit so that he's not gliding over entire levels and he'd fit in those stages fine.
Absolutely not. The original sonic games themselves are not even as good as everyone thinks they are. I remember replaying them 4 years ago and thinking about how badkythey have aged. People say what will make a good new sonic game, however when sega does it it is never as good as people remember due to nostalgia.
>I did thing and it was bad, so people only like thing for nostalgia
Don't reply to Unleashedfag's shitposts.
Hello Arin.
>The original sonic games themselves are not even as good as everyone thinks they are
>t. IGN
Anyone got that webm? You know the one.
The only good Sonic games are the classic ones and the newer racing games
This. everyone wants more of what they like and sega being the shitheads they are have created so many different playstyles that it's impossible. That said, Mario does pretty well despite having a few slightly variable game choices (SMW style vs 3D Mario) and that's because Nintendo tries to keep everything as similar as possible.
Sonic should have died with Adventure 2.
They did well enough on the 3D front and perfected 2D, anything else they want to make that's as good is just going to be a rehash.
Experimentation is fine, but not when the experiment overtakes the platforming soul of the game.
This guy's got the right idea on how to do 3D Sonic
But he's right.
They are two exteremes one too familliar and one too experimental (and shitty).
Lost world is worse than 06
>Lost world is worse than 06
Let's not get too over ourselves here.
The good sonic games are the classics (1 - 3K, CD), adventure (1,2)(Heroes and Shadow to some degree), 2D Boost (Advance 2, 3, Rush, Rush Adventure), and 3D Boost (whichever games fit here). All Sega has to do is make more and those in that particular fanbase will be happy. Now if only Sega would do that instead of changing things up every goddamn time they make a game
>Lost world is worse than 06
I don't remember Lost World having a fucking audio blooper left in it
say no more
wtf
What is this trying to show? I'm seeing standard sonic physics here.
Nothing bad, certainly.
They tried making serious stories and it just fell flat.
At this point sonic ripoffs are better than sonic
You're supposed to hold right when going through a loop.
>he just repeats the line after fucking it up
And that doesnt apply in mania?
It's the player being too retarded to run the loop de loop
user the point of the webm is to show that the person playing is a fucking idiot.
The person in the webm doesn't know how to get through the loop
>serious tones
>fell flat
Am I only the only motherfucker who watched the first stage of Sonic 3 be burned to a crisp?
Player is switching directions when hitting the vertical threshold of the shuttleloop, in an effort to keep going forward.
Gotcha. i thought the webm was made to point fun at sonic physics, from the title of it.
Yeah, that happens in all the classic sonics.
this cant be fucking real, NO ONE can be this retarded, its impossible, i refuse to believe this is not on purpose
This whole thread is ironic considering Johnny likes and enjoys Generations very much.
He's just like most oldfag Sonic fans like us. Jaded as shit and just want something close to the level of atleast Sonic 2 or hopefully 3&K
Stories not tones, two completely different things.
I mean the player's inputs, they have to keep holding right if they're entering the shuttleloop from the left.
He then goes to praise Sonic Generations and claim it's a great game.
You took two different quotes without any context. Hell, when he said Lost World "reeks of experimentation" it was when he was dealing with the unfocused experience that game is.
They are very clearly testing the physics of the game.
Yeah, you suddenly break off the top if you switch directions. I'm seeing it now.
Playing it safe is probably the best thing Sonic can do.
90% of the time their experiments fall flat at best and absolutely implode at worst.
Sonic can only play it safe. Every SINGLE time they try something new, it turns into shit. They should just spend the rest of eternity making sequels to Mania.
My God this only reminds me of how pathetic Sonic 4 was
A game that paraded itself as a return to classic form and STILL turned out awful.
>This whole thread is ironic considering Johnny likes and enjoys Generations very much.
While that's true he was hopping that the next game would have been like Generations except with original levels, which is what Project 2017 seems to be thankfully.
Instead it was sonic rush without boost and blaze.
I can't tell what's going on when you shove this much shit into the bottom picture
>Is there anything that could potentially please all Sonic fans?
No there are like 20 different kinds of sonic games at this point.
I haven't really played sonic since I was a kid and I want a game with a chao garden. I doubt they'll ever do that again.
Chao Garden Game
The only good Sonic games ever released were the Genesis originals and even they were like a 7/10 at the absolute most
Wow, Totalbiscuit has changed.
>he didn't like Sonic CD
I only know one type of Sonic game that would please most of the fanbase, if you know what I mean, wink wink.
>he likes CD
>laughing_whores.jpeg
CD is terrible.
The better question is why you would WANT to please Sonic fans
If anyone's a glutton for punishment it's them
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So they can make money? Kind of goes without saying.
great physics
great levels
great soundrack
what's not to like?
Taxman's port of CD is pretty bangin' from what I hear.
CD is one of the few mainline games I never played at all, though.
>great levels
>
You're right about the rest but not this. And it's the most important one.
>that picture
Be honest Sup Forums, would you a Sonic? Would you let him a you?
I am not a gay, so no.
He's alright. His friends on their LP channel are absolutely autistic, though.
Only if Cream is the main character.
They're not that bad unless you're trying to get the good ending
Sonic fans are divided into too many different camps now for everyone to be pleased at this point. The best thing they can do right now is make both Classic type games like Mania and 3D games for the modern fans.
That still leaves Adventurefags in the dust but who cares about them
Please leave SomecallmeJohnny out of Sup Forums. He's the only one I got left. It's best if Sup Forums doesn't know who he is
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The Mega Drive Sonic games are an evolution of Super Mario Bros.' momentum based platforming but with more variables, primarily the angles of slopes.
Haven't watched BSC in such a long time. Is Ted still a whinny, passive aggressive SJW cuck?
I'm pretty sure a lot of people on Sup Forums already know who Johnny is, and they think he's alright.
It's really not.
A bunch of anons on here already knew who he is for a while.
this was in the IGN showcase of mania.
no fucking way, does it really
Does the sun still rise in the east?
no fucking way
this game really is so bad it's good, like it needs to be experienced for the beautiful hellscape that it is
this is the ultimate icing on the cake
Sonic Generations
>"This is the definition of a game playing it safe"
I can agree with this to a certain extent. Way too many recent Sonic games have made their main selling point the fact that they're the game that finally brings back the OLD SONIC THAT WE KNOW AND LOVE. Sonic 4 episodes 1&2, Sonic Generations, Sonic Mania and Sonic 2017 all do this and all have it front and centre on their marketing because it's the only thing Sega knows generates interest in Sonic anymore.
Not saying that most of those games aren't/won't be great but the nostalgia baiting is starting to lose it's appeal, especially since modern 3D Sonic was finally starting to come into it's own.
This guy's videos are trash though.
How strange that Oblivion also did this, and they both came out the same year.
t-this can't be real
>When impatient babbies near me don't like CD's level design
>This guy's videos are trash though.
Why?
Don't get me wrong, I love itty bitty kitty titties, but I've never thought of Sonic himself that way.
Babysitting Cream is boring as fuck
>Is there anything that could potentially please all Sonic fans?
Yeah, it's called Freedom Planet.
dohoho
>speaking at Sonic speed in his reviews
Jesus. Just chill down
>play CD on Gems
>don't like it, especially that us soundtrack and that shitty pseudo-spindash
>play 2011 Remake
>mfw I loved the shit out of it
Cue that one guy autistically crying about how the physics are too much like Sonic 4 and the combat doesn't work
Taxman is just that based, so glad him and his other Sonic Retro buddies are making Mania, literally a dream come true.
Johnny is one of the few tubers I genuinely wish I was mates with. Guy is just cool.
>This guy's videos are trash though.
fuck you Johnny is great
>This guy's videos are trash though.
fucking hell why are these so funny
Don't talk shit about my sempai faggot
Sonic has always been a middling franchise
t. IGN
i wonder who's behind this post
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