Has Breath of the Wild usurped the king of open-world design?

Has Breath of the Wild usurped the king of open-world design?

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No

Skyrim is still the best open-world game.

Nothing can usurp Gothic my friend

Morrowind is my favorite rpg but ive never played gothic. Are there any essential mods?

only for gothic 2
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No.
But it's probably the closest a game has been. It does a lot of things right.
Zelda just seems to be between the generic open world games that are made nowadays and Gothic. It's a step in the right direction and might force developers to copy it and get closer to a game that is at least close to the quality of Gothic.

Why are you comparing a handheld action adventure game with RPG elements for children to an oldschool challenging cRPG?

>Gothic
>cRPG

Its an action RPG

this is shitpost 101

Don't you feel how ridiculous that comparision is? Zelda is casual baby shit compared to great open world games.

Just take a look at that:

elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_(Morrowind)
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Also, Morrowind have more than 10 factions which you can side with, do their quests and earn higher ranks.

Wow, Morrowind has a lots of weapons and armor that must mean it's the best game ever.

Also, don't fall for the Gothic meme. Just the first 10 hours of the game you'll be stuck inside a city. There's almost no open world.

you don't even start in a city you might be retarded friend

>Just the first 10 hours of the game you'll be stuck inside a city. There's almost no open world.

Yeah, that's because the city if full of content and has shit ton of stuff to do in it and the outside world is dangerous and full of tough enemies retard

That means there's an actual open world for you to explore and the loot is worth it. Also, Morrowind has an actual reputation system. Zelda has nothing like that, just your typical "thank you, hero".

I really didn't see that, just kept going around the town talking to everybody.

cause the city in Gothic 2 is an actual city and not 8 copy+pasted cubes with generic NPCs and nothing to do

Hard to say. The physics and weather simulations are pretty incredible with how much they offer gameplay-wise, but I am unsure whether it has truly usurped Morrowind due to how much more actual content the latter has and all the roleplaying features. BotW obviously isn't trying to be an RPG so it feels unfair to judge it based on something like that, but it makes sense to me to judge an open world by the content that fills it out; whether that content and the way you interact with it truly justifies making an open world of a given size in the first place. In that regard Morrowind is still king as far as I can tell, but it's too early to say with certainty since I'll be replaying BotW for a while and seeing what else it has to offer.

there's TONS of quests that happen in the city, thieves guild, ring of the water etc

Also, modded Morrowind actually looks better than BotW.

Daily reminder

youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

you never played zelda, cunt.

>retarded Gothicfags attacking Morrowind just for the sake of it instead of praising both great games

You're the cancer that killed WRPGs.

HOW DO YOU FIX THE FUCKING ACCESS VIOLATION ON STARTUP ERROR FOR GOTHIC

I WANT TO PLAY IT SO BAD HOLY SHIT

Beat OoT and MM in 1 week and 2 days without any guide. Started WW but dropped so boring and easy it was.

That faggot again. Hang yourself.

try using the system pack

There is an actual open world with good loot in Zelda. It's pretty clear you haven't actually played it and are just expressing your hard on for Morrowind since you're just autistically comparing amounts of loot. You have a point about the reputation system though.

Why has there been an unwanted rabid fanbase for gothic 2 shitting up every other thread in the past month or two? What the fuck happened?

not even close

and stop with this meme that zelda is anything above avarege

Could you explain which parts of the video you didn't like and why?

If not then fuck off

>you're just autistically comparing amounts of loot

No, retarded. An open world game needs a reason to be explored, and one of that reasons is the loot.

Also, in Morrowind you can kill EVERYONE, even "gods" like Vivec and Almalexia. You can also steal from people, bribe, make them attack you so you legally can kill them. That is an open world, not that baby shit zelda is.

So are you saying you want to fuck G2 fans or what?

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because garbage open world games like BOTW are being praised for nothing and it's time someone showed the casuals what a real open world RPG looks like

But there have been bad open world games for like 5 years now. Why did this fanbase of fucking faggots suddenly decide to infest every single open world game thread to derail it? I've seen perfectly good threads be derailed by them so many times in the past few months.

I bet it's just like 5 faggots that literally monitor the board 24/7 to look for threads to shitpost in

Reminder.

The thing that really set Gothic apart was how well it worked within it's limitations to craft a believable world. For example, in most RPGs towns are very small compared to the real world and we have to suspend our disbelief, but in Gothic there's a good reason why the settlements are so small. There's a reason why there are so few people and no children. There's a reason why the surrounding landscape is full of terrible beasts. And there's even a reason why the player is confined within the bounds of the map. That to me was Gothic's X-factor, how little you needed to suspend your disbelief to become immersed in it's world.

Gothic II ruined all that. Khorinis is of similar size to The Old Camp despite being a real city, with a real poppulion. The local militia have done nothing about the monsters literally within a hundred feet of the city. And the land is now surrounded on three sides by an invisible barrier with no precedent. It feels like a generic video game world by comparison.

If you prefer Gothic II and have ever told someone to skip the first game, you are cancer.

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>usurping gothic
>ever
top kek

nintendrunes comparing their shit game to an actual RPG

So the Gothic fanbase has their sights set on Zelda now?

AHEM!

No?

Yeah, they(he) kept getting btfo every time they went after Morrowind and Wild Hunt so now they're going after games that aren't even RPGs because that's the only way Gothic II compares favorably to anything.

No, it's just that one guy who spams "best rpg ever" threads and invades every other one. The rest of us generally like or don't even pay any mind to Zelda and only occasionally invade TES threads.

the Gothic fanbase has every shit RPG that's getting praise for no reason on their watch

They are the watchful protectors of open-world RPGs

>Yeah, they(he) kept getting btfo every time they went after Morrowind and Wild Hunt

sure thing you slav

morrowind might be equal to Gothic but TW3 is a complete trash

The real question is, what will Gothicfag target next, Sup Forums? Zelda killed any chance of Horizon getting shit on by Gothicfag. Perhaps Nier?

Xenoblade Chronicles 2, watch out!

Zelda isn't even an RPG, retard. This comparison is autistic as fuck and just an excuse for Gothicfags to felate their favorite game.

Yeah I sure do love getting all that sick loot in GTA.

They should tagert Ultima 7 or World of Xeen, but of course their game can't even compete with these.

Thank you kind anons, my rage has been quelled

You would if there was valuable loot, retarded.

All Japanese games.
Not even joking.

P5 should be next.

You can't even climb in Gothic. Sad!

I could give quite a lot of arguments, but 11:42 is quite enough to say.

My point is not all open world games are RPGs so quit comparing BotW to MISS MISS MISS

oh but you can, and in a realistic way not sticking to a flat surface like some spider

10/10 world design, but it's not open you dip

You know if Gothic fanbase does this enough, they'd have the ire of the Bethesda, Witcher, Zelda and possibly Xenoblade and other open world game fanbases in Sup Forums.

I think this is their endgame.

So basically your telling me you can barely climb anything?

Zelda is the only non-RPG that plays like an RPG (except for Zelda clones). They just do this because their fanbase is to casual to play an actual RPG.

They do this because there's a lot of RPG elements that aren't fun and are just carry overs from D&D. Like having dice roll based combat for instance.

you can climb ANYTHING that you can reach.

There are no limits to this, if you can reach it, you can climb it, which actually makes sense

Dark Souls doesn't have an open world and I would argue that while it's nicely looking it can't really compete with Gothic's world, which seems very believable, alive and naturally grown. Dark Souls is more of a backdrop scenery, which has some nicely looking places, but ultimately doesn't seem like a place that was ever inhabited at all.