Ive been saying this for years, the ONLY reason the Wii U did not sell was because it had no fucking IP launch titles...

Ive been saying this for years, the ONLY reason the Wii U did not sell was because it had no fucking IP launch titles. Flash forward to 2017, and you add ONE game that is a strong IP, zelda, and the fucking system sells like hot cakes and $5 hookers to virgins. Zelda is LITERALLY the only launch title for a system that is honestly no different from its predecessor aside from the fact that its mobile now, which honestly they could have just made a new tablet controller for the Wii U and accomplished the same thing as they are doing for switch.

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Wii U sold well in the beginning
Switch is selling well in the beginning

What matters the most is getting a consistent stream of both first party and third party games. The Switch's library is looking pretty sparse at the moment, hopefully Nintendo has a lot more games announced next E3.

And since the Switch uses the shitty Tegra, you can pretty much expect all third party support to be half assed.

>I've been saying this for years
no you haven't

foopity boop

they need to have a shitton of stuff for the holiday serson if they want this thing to sell.

Nah, it's really about the aggressive marketing more than the launch title, though it does help.

The deal is that they actually did like the Wii and advertised the hardware, as opposed to Wii U being a blunder from the getgo and confusing people for the duration of its lifespan.

But being Nintendo, that doesn't matter in the long run if they're too inept to fix the system, and what I've been saying since the Switch reveal is guaranteed now, being that they're GOING to release a remodel of the thing like they did with their handheld lines to fix the very obvious flaws. I mean hell, they removed all the docks online and from being sold due to clearly not running the system through proper testing groups, and likely having to figure out a way to fix the screen scratching and putting it in reverse and jamming it issues.

it has a CORE mario game releasing the end of the year, and a core mario title hasn't been released since galaxy 2. Does it really need anything else to sell the system when it has both core mario and zelda games year 1 of release?

Lets not bull shit ourselves here, people need to stop underestimating these titles.

the marketing was good, but after wii U no one was going to buy a switch if it didn't have a core zelda or mario game at launch regardless of its marketing.

Zelda was actually suppose to be delayed another 3 months, but they needed it as a launch day title for switch so they forced it in.

People sleeping on that Splatoon 2 hype especially in Nipland.

This tegra chip will perform much better than you expect, but will still pale in comparison what the nintendo fanboys want.

the switch is going to flop

it's a portable wiiU with MORE FLAWS than the wiiU.

no software, no third party support. it's not good.

Wii U sold about ~1 million units in its first month, Switch has sold more than that in a few days.

>new york times

>Switch has sold more than that in a few days.

Source?

>Nah, it's really about the aggressive marketing more than the launch title

no it's not. all the marketing in the world wouldn't put this machine out the door if it didn't have zelda. people are buying this because it's the next gen zelda machine.

They sold 300k in Japan alone launch weekend, another 80k in UK. We don't have hard numbers for the rest of Europe or North America at all, but it easily broke 1 million.

it will only flop if they are retarded enough to not make it its next portable console and 3DS successor.

Imagine not having to spend 299 for a home console and another 299 for a portable console. Clearly its a no brainer that it would work. It would also mean nintendo will now have portable IP games like pokemon in HD, do you have any idea what that means kid?

it isnt even a good portable

the battery life is awful

The battery life is compatible to the original model 3DS

its all over the news if you actually watch that. Its nearing double Wii U sales. Infact you don't even need to watch the news, just google.

>muh fake news

hehe

Actually it's because Nintendo mixed it's marketing messages and failed to maintain much of the Wii's install base a lot of which had to do with community centers and the like getting them for the fitness aspects of it. They only needed one and it wasn't a matter of game content either since they were only ever interested in Wii Sports.

Failing to maintain that demographic because it was a one off and not doing enough to pick up the gamer demographic capped the systems potential really bad.

If they make pokemon for it, and use quite shoddy lightweight graphics to run it at the slowest speed, thus lasting 6 hours, will be fine.

its the same as the 3DS moron. It has the same charge as the normal 3DS and if you get the pack thing then it is pretty much equal to the new 3DS.

PS4 still has no games but are bitching that Switch will only have 2 in is first year

Like one of the only rational posts I've seen on Sup Forums all week. This is why my policy towards the Switch is no matter what I'm not getting one until I see if Nintendo supports it well beyond the first 20 months of it's life cycle or so versus another 3 years of nothing and then a Zelda game right at the end that's also on the new launch system anyway as per their last 3 consoles.

Which, yes, was awful.

fuck off

I don't think he was saying it was going to sell 90 million. "Well" for the WiiU probably would have been 25m units.

I still don't get people saying this. When I play my 3DS or Vita on max brightness(which is always) I usually get that much life out of them. Do the people that spout this not realize most modern electronics last that long in constant use?

Yet it was an incredibly successful handheld anyway

So... source? I mean one with hard, concrete sales number, not relative comparison.

in the span of a month:

>nioh

>horizon

>nier automata

>persona 5

ONE MONTH

>playing games for 6 hours straight
>awful battery life

get a life kid. Consider that short battery life as a anti-anti social life measure and take a fucking break while it charges.

they havent released global numbers officially yet, but in japan alone is getting like 400k units. Compare that to Wii U launch sales...
This is not hard to do guy. Stop asking for sources if you are too retarded too google. Google is the best fucking source you can get on the internet.

>get mobile device

>it's ok to have short battery life cause you should be social

what the fuck

While we don't have hard numbers for North America, they are claiming it beat the Wii's 600k launch week.

according to Kotaku it's an estimated 330K in Japan so far.

kotaku.com/the-first-nintendo-switch-sales-numbers-for-japan-1793032877

Everything else is just a guess.

I already know how many unit it sold in Japan.

First two day sales comparison for Japan only
Switch Sold 330,637
Wii Sold 371,936
Wii U Sold 308,570

I'm not seeing how it is significantly outperforming WiiU's sales in the first two days.

I don't think we have hard numbers for EU yet either.

you do understand that 6 hours is only if you are playing a game non stop right? Do you dick around on your phone or tablet pc for 6 hours straight? Or do you only take it out while you are on a short plane ride, waiting on a doctor, waiting for a bus, on break at lunch, etc?

Don't be stupid.

>I'm not seeing how it is significantly outperforming WiiU's sales in the first two days.
March launch vs Holiday season launch.

>JAPAN ONLY = 330K FOR SWITCH
>WII U GLOBAL = 400K UNITS

???????? Can you really not connect the dots here?

I remember same threads about wiiu launch.
How it was selling like hotcakes an better than Wii.

Usb type-c, tho

This is also my biggest concern. The fact that they keep insisting that *it is a console**** and their continuous support for the 3DS (and some other little design choices) makes me fear that Nintendo is being way too scared of making this their 3DS successor and that will be their doom.

Nintendo have userbase of 10 millions die hard fans.
It doesnt matter if it sells good during launch.
Lets look at it after few months.

>it has a CORE mario game releasing the end of the year
Who gives a shit?

no one ever said that, stop lying to yourself.

They were scared to call the DS the successor to the Gameboy line too, as soon as the thing took off they dropped the GBA hard.

It sold 3 million units in a few months what the fuck are you talking about

It's outperforming the PS4, though, which sold 322k in their first week.
The PS4 isn't that big of a hit there, regardless, but still.

Wii U had some pretty good games on it. The biggest problem in terms of sales was that the general public had no idea it existed. Most people outside of the "core" community had either never heard of it, or if they had, they thought it was an add-on for the Wii. Nintendo fucked themselves with that thing with the name and their unclear marketing. It was obvious from the announcement of the console that they had no idea how to market the thing.

>outperforming the PS
Launch doesnt matter, like at all.
We do not know which market buying switch.
Nintendo fans, who after short time will just end.
Or new casual market.

They said they would "continue supporting the Wii U", but we all know thats a giant lie.

launch day sales for a nintendo console is always a good indicator of how good it will do in the future tho.

No it isn't, stop lying to yourself and us.

I hope that's the case, but I just can't help but be somewhat concerned.

I believe it's the hardcore market since it doesn't really have such a strong launch title there (I have no idea how popular Zelda is there, though). Outperforming the launch of the PS4 in Japan isn't that big of a deal either. We'll have to wait and see regardless.

Pop the champagne Nintenbros!!!We did it!!!

This is the important part, since even though the Wii sold like 100M+ units, the Wii U had enough die hard fans to buy about 11M.

But the Wii U was rather good at launch, and just pittered out over time due to lack of games, with the Switch having a similar situation for the time being. Outside of being Nintendo games, there isn't a guaranteed overlap on Zelda / Mario Kart / Splatoon / 3D Mario (which are always weaker in sales than 2D entries)

The real indicator is how long it'll take before Nintendo's nefarious understocking strat levels out and we start seeing Switch in the wild for sale, though this is the same company that rather see scalpers turn a profit instead of continuing to sell NES Classics. My local Gamestop said they haven't had any of those in since X-Mas time, despite there STILL being some demand for them.

>in their first week.
That's wrong,ps4 sold that in 2 days

Nintendo fans, you know, the guys that nintendo milks dry for money?

name one nintendo console that had good launch day sales and did poorly for the remainder of its life.

btw, 400k the wii U had is NOT good fucking launch day sales. stop lying. its pure shit. even the game cube did better in launch sales.

First party titles alone will carry this system. Nintendo is combining their portable and console development teams which means that unlike the Wii U, the folks behind 3DS titles like

>Mario 3d land
>Fire emblem awakening and IF
>Luigi's Mansion
>all those pokemon games (unless they decide to make ANOTHER 3DS poke)
>Zelda ALLBW
>Mario Kart 7
>Animal crossing
>Kid Icarus uprising (which would be great with console controls)
>etc etc

Will now be making games alongside the teams that made Wii U exclusives for one system. This is the true strength of the switch experiment

>name one nintendo console that had good launch day
>BUT NOT WIIU DOES NOT COUNT WAAAAAA
Well, you know why you do not want to talk about it.

>First party titles alone will carry this system
Just like wiiu, yes?
Admit, people do not care even a bit about Nintendo games anymore.

>btw, 400k the wii U had is NOT good fucking launch day sales. stop lying. its pure shit. even the game cube did better in launch sales.

The Wii U only sold 400k because it was under shipped.

>The big story, however, is the Wii U, which launched on November 18. Fils-Aime explained to CNET that the Wii U's sales figures during the last week were essentially capped by the company's ability to get units to store shelves.

>"Wii U is essentially sold out of retail and we are doing our best to continually replenish stock," Fils-Aime said. "Retailers are also doing their best to get the product to store shelves. But as soon as product hits retail, they're selling out immediately."

cnet.com/news/nintendo-400k-wii-u-units-sold-1-2m-devices-total/

People care about Nintendo games. Nintendo just doesnt make the games that people care about.

Not quite how it worked, Nintendo doesn't have separate teams working on portable/handheld games. The people who made Mario Kart 7 are the same people who did 8, the Galaxy team made 3D Land and 3D World, the same people behind A Link Between Worlds did Breath of the Wild. Generally their main development teams made portable games in the downtime/pre-production stages of the home console game development cycles. This became increasingly less feasible as time went on though, which just led to alternating droughts for each platform.

And WiiU numbers were much better than PS3 or 360 sales.
But after few months? Nothing.

we are talking about nintendo, as this rule applies specifically to them because of their IP. its a known fact in nintendos history that if it has a core IP game at launch the console will do well.

the Wii had twilight princess and it sold because of twilight princess. wii sports were for the casuals that never touched a zelda game, which worked out for nintendo because casuals were what they needed at the time.

Because the system was dead release wise for almost an entire year. Switch has Mario Kart next month, a port sure but effectively a brand new game for the vast majority of people out there. Splatoon 2 is coming the month after that, followed by Zelda DLC in the summer/fall and Mario in time for the holidays. Things are looking far better than the Wii U's first year, which had fucking nothing.

Good post. Makes a lot of sense especially for the older platforms such as the gameboys.

But still the other user has a point that there will be more content released for the Switch now that they only have to target one platform instead of 2.

You are wrong.

>Mario Kart
>Splatoon
Nobody bought WiiU for this games. Nobody will buy Switch too.
People want GTA, new RDR and another multiplatform games. Not Mario, this is reality now.

Because the Wii U was already dead in the water by the time they came out, the point is the Switch is getting a steady stream of releases this year. While the Wii U floundered out of the gate with nothing and the damage was irreversible by the time Nintendo finally started getting games out.

>Switch is getting a steady stream of releases this year.
>2 games in 1 year
>1 port
>1 sequel without any big changes
Ok.

Mario Kart 7 sold 13 million copies and resulted in a huge 3DS sales spike, its a huge IP with wide appeal. Mario Kart 8 came too late to push Wii U sales.

>Mario Kart 8 came too late to push Wii U sales.
Just no.
People do not care about mario kart it isn't system seller.
It sold so much on Wii, because wheel and casual market who saw mario on the cover, nothing else.

mario kart is a IP you fucking retard lol. you are proving me right.

splatoon is a new IP, so again, proving me right. GTA is 3rd party that you can buy on PC, you dont even need a consol for it. fuck off.

I was talking about the 3DS Mario Kart, which didn't really have that huge casual market at any point. If you want to talk about Mario Kart Wii that sold like 40 million copies, and was later sold in a bundle with the console because it moved systems. People fucking love Mario Kart.

no one even bought that retarded ass wheel for the game, what are you talking about?

>GTA is 3rd party that you can buy on PC
GTA V sales:
360 - 16 mil
PS3 - 21 mil
XBO - 6 mil
PS4 - 14 mil

People do not want Mario Kart or other nintedo games.
They want GTA, Witcher, Fallout and FIFA.

Normies don't even know what the fuck is Red Dead Redemption,your delusion is pathetic.

Interesting how you dont mention PC sales...

hmm, really makes you think.

Witcher and Fallout? Normies don't know what the fuck those games are.

Nintendo on isn't a third party dev........

wait, are we really going to do this? are we really goint to show how hard mario kart shat on GTA V? is this the year 2000 where people actually think these 3rd party games beat out nintendos core IP? Please tell me this is bait? PLEASE?

Vs the Wii U's launch year, which had shit and nothing for months and months up until Pikmin 3 in August 2013. December 2012 - August 2013 without a single worthwhile release, this right here is what killed the system. Nothing Nintendo did afterwards was able to resurrect sales, Wii U was dead and buried by then.

None of those franchises are system sellers, they are games which people buy for systems they already happen to have.

>Nintendo Switch has sold around 80,000 units in the UK during its opening weekend.

>It's not as high as 3DS' debut, which was 113,000 according to Nintendo. Nor does it come close to the PS4 launch (250,000) or the Xbox One launch (150,000).

>half what xbone sold

JUST

You are wrong.
This is actual system sellers.

Mario Kart, Mario, Zelda - not.

>UK
No one cares about the UK

Britbongs have a thing for Xbox for some reason, they are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for photographs of an Xbox.

>biggest eu market
>nobody cares
Lol ok.

the fact that you can buy 3rd party titles on PC HONESTLY makes xbox and playstation pointless to own. infact you would have to be retarded to own either one in the year 2017, and if you own a "gaming pc" to boot then you mind aswell kill yourself because you are beyond all hope.

Atleast with nintendo there is a reason. you can not buy zelda, mario, splatoon, mario kart, or any of their IP on PC. this is why nintendo will be the only home console on the market LONG after playstation and xbox go down the shitter and get out of the console making business.

every PC owner knows this. its a question of when it will happen. only a matter of time before you no longer see playstation or xbox consoles on the market.

remember when about a month into the Wii Us life span it was being outsold by the Vita?

Wii U didn't sell because it's fucking called Wii U

>mommy can I buy the new wii u
>YOU ALREADY HAVE A WII YOU LITTLE SHIT

>links Kotaku seriously
>excepts me to click
>not pastebinnin it
>believing Kotaku in any way or form
How great it was to be young and naive

I know you gonna say buhu but you wanted sauce, i give you and you say it's noo kawaii uguu sauce, butt fuck you.

>nintendo will be the only home console on the market
But Nintendo home consoles already dead.
Not it is portables only.

>biggest EU market

you are assuming that people actually care about the EU aswell kek. its like saying this ant has the biggets market in all of pile-o-shit land.

>sitting in dorm with roomate
>hey did you hear about the Wii U?
>yeah they're releasing a new tablet accessory for the Wii
>no dude it's a whole new system
>definitely not, that doesn't even make sense

literally happened

>you are assuming that people actually care about the EU aswell kek
Yes they are. PS4 sold shittone in it.
Nintendo of course do not care about it, because nobody buying nintendo shit in EU.

I still don't know if you need a Wii or an Wiimote or why the hell they even called it like that.

UK isn't even in the top 3 EU markets.

The biggest one is Germany. The second one is France and the third one is Italy.