Would a hypothetical TF3 topple Overwatch if it were released this year?

Would a hypothetical TF3 topple Overwatch if it were released this year?

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No. I bought overwatch because it had hot women . TF2 isn't funny, it's stupid looking and the characters look dumb.

If Valve released any game right now, and it had the number 3 at the end of it. The steam store would be down for a couple days. So probably. Valve might just be the Nintendo gaming with Gaben being their Miyamoto.

Why do we care, Overwatch is slowly dying while TF2 could literally last another 5 years at this rate

How would you even improve on TF2's current formula in something you couldn't just do in an update? Overwatch tried and ended up being literally worse

In the same way a small splash of water topples a tiny mound of sand, I guess.

I dunno, tf2 is free so the majority of retards wont move. Only the loyals and the ones who buy compullsively would even föinch at a new valve game.

Overwatch is gonna die with the shitty meta and how unbalanced it is.

This.

Hard to say. Valve has had huge success with Tf2, but they've also sort of worked themselves into a corner with it because anyone still playing TF2 will have a ton of investment in it. People who have accumulated tons of hats and other items aren't going to just drop all that shit and move to a different game.

TF3 would have to significantly change to be worth it. The reason people moved to Overwatch is that it's new, with new features like abilites and ultimates and whatever (new to FPS that is, I know shit like that exists in MOBAs already.) I personally don't think Overwatch is going to last as long as TF2 has, or even will, though.

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Maybe they could set up a system where your items and hats transfer over. Could even make items shared between the games. But then that runs counter to my point here since that would require the games to be pretty similar.

Valve just needs to put in playable female characters and ripoff a couple overwatch classes and TF3 would do ok. Problem is that the 1960s war movie aesthetic isn't in fashion anymore because the target demographic were raised by baby boomers.

That's the only thing I see hurting Overwatch. Blizzard doesn't so much balance things out gradually and see how it plays, they go full fucking rere strength with the nerf hammer and create a new meta with every swing. No idea how long it'd take for people to say fuck this with every nerf, but it's the most likely way to end it.
TF3 won't happen unless valve can figure out how to make maximum shekels out of it and that includes a new accessory/hat system and probably skins for the characters. Not to mention make the game look appealing enough for people who still play TF2 to make the leap. Maybe a system that lets TF2 players bring their inventory over to the new game, for a price of course. Valve would absolutely charge for that feature.

>overwatch is dying faster than HotS

HOW HARD IS IT FOR YOU FAGS TO NOT SHILL YOUR SHITTY TODDLERS' SHOW

Shut up you pedo

Fucking kill yourself you piece of shitfuck, you ruin people's lives

why do you start these threads

are you that desperate for attention

Kys

>Molested a kid
>Calls others degenerates

I'm not even joking, if you jumped off a bridge and ended your life, I'd literally celebrate.

If Valve just made TF2 with actual support and actual integration of good features while leaving out the bad.

But that won't happen because of Valve's organizational structure.

no because valve will forget about the game's existence and leave it riddled with thousands of bugs for years, just like TF2. Just like CSGO. Just like DOTA 2.

No one wants to download a 800 mb hat update with no gameplay substance or plans.

I think the most recent updates are actually really promising. But you're almost certainly right.

Valve doesn't care about money.

It won't be made because nobody's actually in charge at Valve. There's no one to say "you're going to work on this game", people just do whatever the fuck they want and any projects are solely the design of employees stepping up.

And be honest, would YOU be the one to step up and be responsible for the quality of a hypothetical TF3 if you could just make a model for a gun that may never be used once a week and get paid more than anyone else in the industry?

why the fuck do i keep seeing this post

and yet LoL is still a thing

Mijo doesn't know

I think a TF3 that had significant changes to take Team Fortress to the next generation would topple Overwatch easily.

I'm imagining a real class based team arena shooter that would be a true successor to the likes of TFC or Quake. Have the game balanced around 6v6 competitive, where players with good DM win and not get cheesed because someone on the other team pressed Q.

Bring the class shooter back to the basics, and what better than the grand daddy of the genre?

I like to picture it with TFC's industrial military setting with TF2's retro spy-tech cartoony aesthetic.

TF3 would be to Overwatch as what Dota 2 is to LoL.

You have the ability to actually carry your team and grow exponentially in power in League.

Your bullets don't magically do more damage than a retard's in OW.

this is just a thread to bait HIM

where u get dat image

>Have the game balanced around 6v6
No.
6v6 is one of the main problems with Overwatch and one of TF2's main strengths is that the game isn't balanced around it.

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lol no

The one thing that TF2 will always top over Overwatch is the characters' personalities.

So valve doesn't care about money, but they will make models for guns/skins to sell for money. Which one is it user?

yeah

It's from Moby Franke's portfolio website. Concept art for Team Fortress 2.

God fuck I knew that pic looked a little odd. Fuck off Barneyfag. No one cares. Haven't seen you in a while though.

They care a lot about money, but they've gotten used to making it hand over fist from Steam and they are too lazy to make games anymore

and the amount of content

thanks user

The only way to bring TF2 "forward" would be to make it more esportsified. Team Fortress as it exists now is fine. There's really nothing they can add to it.

Oh I know valve enjoys making uncle scrooge money for little to no effort. Look at the newest cases they put out for csgo, fucking gloves and sprays. Gloves and limited sprays. Who the fuck pays for those? The reason I quoted him was because I found it odd that he would say that valve doesn't care about money, but then mentions gun models being made for money. Made no sense to me.

A competitive game balanced around 6v6 would have minimal effect on pubs. I'm not saying 12v12 pubs can't coexist with a 6v6 competitive mode.

TF2 came out during an awkward time where streaming and esports weren't big. If TF3 came out today, it would need a huge esports backing from Valve to compete with Overwatch.

No. 25 million people bought Overwatch and millions of them play and enjoy Overwatch everyday while only a few hundred thousand play TF2. The characters in Overwatch are funner to play as, have better designs and are more memorable. Overwatch is a modern classic that will be remembered in the same breath as Mario and Crash.

>millions of them play and enjoy Overwatch everyday
>OW(2016) queue time: 3 minutes
>CS:GO(2012) queue time: 10 seconds

This.

Also, I don't see how they could make TF3 and phase out TF2. It's good and is still one of the most played games on steam after a decade, so they can't just drastically change everything and make a sequel without it feeling weird.
>making something different would ruin the experience for some people
>making something similar with the same characters/story would be good, but lazy

They're kinda stuck

the comic is ending soon, remember

Blame Blizzard's shit matchmaking system.

Dont fucking lie. I tried queueing in CSGO a couple of weeks ago, and I didn't get a single game in 10 mins. That game is dead.

i have to wonder how much better ow would be if it had 15v15 or something

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Yeah, dead game alright.

Maybe

For some reason everything Valve does gets praised to Oblivion

Valve doesn't make games anymore

Overwatch tried to be too big for its own good which is a problem TF2 also started experiencing late in its life after they added tons of weapons without any thought put into them.

No. Overwatch appeals to more people unless TF3 was majorly different. I'd take a new Team Fortress over Overwatch any day though.

I seriously doubt more people actually prefer playing as girls in order to have a comp that wins

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Only if it pandered to tumblr

its not gonna die and you know it

HOW HARD IS IT FOR YOU FAGS TO NOT SHILL YOUR SHITTY TODDLERS' SHOW

Do you live in Nigeria or something? I legitimately get 10 seconds whenever I queue for CSGO. I mean you're probably lying because your angry OW is dead but at least make it believeable

Fucking kill yourself

What do you do all day? Do you live on neetbux?

>Overwatch is slowly dying
is it? do people have numbers? what are they?

Hang these shitfucks

I want them all fucking dead

There are no numbers and these people will never source any. They spew their stupid bullshit so hard they believe it.

If they'd all die at once I'd be extremely happy

Seriously, can someone murder these fucking degenerates already

Seriously can someone murder these dipshits

Blizzard refuses to give real numbers. Wonder why that is.

I just want them fucking dead

They probably learned from WoW or something. Any kind of numbers = "holy shit this game is dead".

On an unrelated note, I like how everyone booked it when the raging autist arrived.

I think they really learned it from SC2. It showed the player count, and it made it look a lot deader.

>he thinks millions of people still play overwatch

I'm still here. I want to see how this develops.

Hmm, sounds about right. Are they still continuing DLC for SC2, anyway? Or are they dropping it? Maybe they'll start focusing on WoW and Overwatch?

Too young to buy the Orange Box, huh?

He's been spazzing out the whole thread.

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Last thing I remember was more co-op commanders and voice packs to try to milk a little bit out of it.

Considering it has the second highest viewer numbers of any game on Twitch I'd say it's doing fairly well

All they need to do is put out an event every so often

I got into OW this week but I kinda suck at it

Any tips?

You should interact with people in the thread more

Play a better game.

Almost a year with Overwatch has made me appreciate how well-designed TF2 is(was).

9 distinct classes that all have unique combat niches but have some flexibility.

There's a reason "tank" heroes like the Heavy and Soldier don't have abilities that just shut down whatever the enemy is doing, they just soak up damage better than everyone else.

There's a reason the Spy can't reliably kill enemies from across the map with his revolver.

There's a reason they didn't give anybody a fucking hook that drags them to lethal range.

Yes, things like demoknight happened and are the TF2 equivalent of Genjis and Hanzos, but at the same time, Valve for the most part knew when to scrap terrible fucking ideas instead of putting them in the game and hoping to God they knew how to balance it later.

Yeah, TF2 is a fucking unoptimized clusterfuck mess now but for the good part of the last 10 years it was something special.

I think Valve, with a fresh slate, could make a TF3 that makes Overwatch look like an amateur server mod for people on 24/7 orange servers. Hell, do like they did for all those Asian market targeted Counter-Strike spinoffs and get some artists to make sexy girl versions of the classes and they'd be unstoppable.

I imagine the PC numbers are probably somewhere in the 10s to hundreds of thousands, given that Counter-Strike GO usually does 600 to 800 thousand a day.

Until Sony or Microsoft release their semi-regularly scheduled rankings we won't know anything about the console versions.

Get good at Roadhog, Ana, Reinhardt, and S76
enjoy always winning

I think OW is in a soft spot right now where even though it's popular a game with sufficient brand recognition could blow it utterly the fuck out.

Oh, and by "get good at", I mean have decent aim and know how to use your abilities.

Barneyfag lives in your mind rent free

Don't be delusional, doomfist hasn't even been released yet.

And a lot of the things TF2 did better than OW are reasons why I enjoy Paladins more than OW, but there's still a lot of the same issues. Trying to come back to TF2 was a pain because I wasn't used to Sniper and Spy anymore, and I wish it would be possible to do a TF game without them having instant kills. TF3 could easily take over the whole genre if Valve put effort into it.

>pick """tank""""
>get nuked in 2 seconds every time

>Overwatch starts to die
>"Guys, Mercy is GAY!"
>popularity rises again

They always got a publicity stunt up their sleeve.

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overwatch is just a tf2 ripoff with less shit, if TF3 came out it would topple overwatch

blizzard would be in development hell for a while too because of it

Dude come on don't just recycle the same few phrases over and over again