There is no timeline you fucking retards
There is no timeline you fucking retards
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When people say this you can tell they either barely plagued zelda, played them a long time ago, or weren't paying attention. All of the mainline zelda games have obvious connections to the other games.
There is a timeline, there was always a timeline. It's inconsistent and ambiguous but it exists.
>barely plagued zelda
don't encourage bioterrorism
It's officially confirmed so of course there is, but anyone who isn't a retard knows that they didn't plan for it to have one and they hamfisted it when people kept making autistic theories.
There are references and Easter eggs to other games, with some of the Zelda games being direct sequels. But there is no timeline, you fucking autist.
Nintendo only did the book to make money. It's not real.
In BoTW, the king literally says this within first 10 minutes of the game.
>legends and fairy tales
Stop being an autistic retard
I used to believe in the timeline stuff many years ago. But seriously, once you get older it's obvious that they just make shit up as they go. There is no grand or exciting continuity. Not that there's anything wrong with that. People who take the Zelda "timeline" seriously are crazy, as are the enforcers of the "Pixar theory" whenever something new comes out.
>"Nintendo only did the book to make money. It's not real."
Nintendo also only did the entire zelda series of games to make money.
I guess they're not real either then. I just imagined playing 10+ games.
There is continuity though. It's loose, because they obviously don't give a fuck about it, but it's still obviously nodded to as being there.
>I guess these games aren't real
Yes???
You seriously are mentally handicapped, aren't you?
You must have only played botw.
Timelines and "lore" are the most autistic vidya related shit I can think.
There was no hint at a timeline until after the OoT era and again, that's mostly to appeal fans who started making shit up.
>muh sages are named after the towns in Zelda 2!
It's reference, not a timeline. There are islands named after every main Zelda title in BoTW, that doesn't mean it's related to all of them.
>There was no hint at a timeline until after the OoT era
The second game is a direct sequel and alttp is a prequel to the first. This is why nobody takes you seriously, you know nothing about Zelda.
I've played every single Zelda game except the cd i games and four sword adventures.
Try again.
>Zelda has no timeline
>Even though Nintendo later made one.
>Getting mad over this.
>Accuse other people of autism for caring about this
Are you okay?
I already mentioned direct sequels you fucking moron, try paying attention.
>lttp is a prequel
Never established in either games directly and is only "Canon" because of hyrule historia.
Nothing in Zelda 1 hints to it being placed in a timeline after lttp or vice versa.
>Never established in either games directly and is only "Canon" because of hyrule historia.
The packaging description of Zelda III established it as a prequel way before the Historia.
They are physically tangible and/or readily observerable by the masses. Therefore "real", user. As real as any other fictional narrative recorded in history. Ergo, devaluing one object as "not real" in the context of another fictional work is ridiculous.
That is what I'm implying, you idiot.
>There is no timeline
Every Zelda game has always talked about where it was in relation to the other titles. We always knew that A Link to the Past was set before Zelda 1 and 2, and Ocarina of Time was set even before that.
People that say dumb shit like OP are too young to even remember Twilight Princess's E3 debut.
>no timeline
>when Urbosa explicitly mentions Gerudo Ganondorf
>or heft a boulder an hurl it at your enemies
Holy shit, that entire paragraph reads like an ad for BotW.
(you)
botw is basically the promises of old zelda finally delivered
>package by NoA is Canon
I bet you believe the title "Link to the past" is canon too and has some kind of meaning, even though it's just some shit the American translators made up because they couldn't use "triforce of the gods" from the original Japanese title?
Lol you fucks really are retarded
>there is a timeline
Lmao I remember playing Zelda 1 when it first came out, you fucking autist.
Only millennials believe this timeline shit.
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The book itself is real too, but the content is fake, just like the game.
Seriously, seek help. You have a mental condition.
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Did you even attempt to read the rest of the thread or are you just illliterate?
It really doesn't matter what you say, the fact is that it exists because Nintendo made it exist.
You can say something didn't happen, but just because you choose to live vicariously through delusion, that doesn't make it true.
Ok, here's the text from the SFC box google translated. It basically says the same thing in a more retarded manner.
>This time the stage was when Hyrule was still a kingdom long before the link was active. Run, bump, toss, throw. Push, pull, swim, swing sword .... You can be a legendary brave when you rush around freely in the country of Hailar and golden Triforce "in hand.
>All of the mainline zelda games have obvious connections to the other games.
>games in the same series reference each other
Wow, crazy discovery, lorefag.
Then you must be an idiot because the connections could not be more obvious.
Yes, as opposed to something like Final Fantasy which does not have a unified timeline.
The "Pixar theory" is pure speculation though. In Zelda you see the continuity in-game.
Also Wind Waker explicitly references the events and characters of OoT.
>b-but it's just an Easter egg
The timeline DOES exist, but Nintendo treats it as a fun afterthought and so should you.
No shit.
Nintendo of America's localizations tended to be pretty accurate back then, unlike Konami and Sega, which would often change the identities of characters and plot settings for the U.S. versions of their game. You're probably EOP who probably can't read even basic kana, so I doubt you would even know this.
I'm not sure if Kamigami no Triforce was ever promoted as a prequel like A Link to the Past was, but the fact that Hyrule Histeria favors the prequel setting seems to reinforce the idea that it was always established to be one.
Holy fuck you destroyed that nigga. At leasg he had toe ckrtesy of not responding and silently acknowledging defetat
>they're all fake and made up stories
>therefore the continuity and story of each as they relate to each other means nothing
Are you the same kind of guy who says movies and books and stories are stupid because they're made up?
Because nobody liked that kind of guy
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OoT, ALttP, LA, LoZ, AoL happen in that order. That was the canon timeline when OoT was made.
MM could have happened in the same timeline because Termina didn't have any influence on Hyrule.
WW required a split timeline to explain things.
>well over 10,000 years in a fantasy medieval setting with no real record keeping
of course that shit would just be seen as legends and fairy tales after that fucking long
BUT, you're still absolutely correct. The games were originally made with no real connection to eachother beyond the games that are direct sequels to one another.
It's not that daft a concept that events in the past happened so long ago, that they become legend, myth, or forgotten to time.
Anyway, I don't think they originally intended for there to be a timeline, it was more of an after-thought. The timeline they did present in the Hyrule Historia is probably something they invented after the fact of actually making the games.
The only games that really started the whole timeline thing were the Hero's Shade in Twilight Princess, and then an actual concrete effort to feature one starting with Skyward Sword, and also Breath of the Wild.
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>There is no time
Your sword is enough.
Reminder that Hyrule Encyclopedia was written by a bunch of nobodies outside Nintendo and isn't canon, unlike Hyrule Historia which was written by the Zelda development team themselves and is canon.
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I love this image.
squadala!
Where can I find the snap of this
>The pink hair doesn't trigger his autism but blonds do
Did he get bullied by a Hitler youth as a kid or what
This. Hyrule Historia was never canon and never will be. Anybody who says otherwise should be laughed out of every Zelda thread.
I've played barely any of the Mario games, should I go through it in this order? I know Mario doesn't actually have a timeline, but pretending there is one might be fun. Does this image make any kind of sense or is it just a very well-made shitpost?
It's not even a well made shitpost. Just play 3, world, warioland and warioland 4. Everything else is garbage.
I did. We ended up putting aside our differences and fucked in the closet.
The game is called LEGEND of Zelda, the NPCs in the game don't believe the things that happened in their past. It's called a joke.
>64 is garbage
>Galaxy is garbage
>Paper is garbage
>Land is garbage
Now THIS is shitposting
I think it's the same legend told over and over again, just by a different teller who heard it from their parents and grandparents, but story changes over generations because of interpretation, etc.., else it doesn't make any sense that there is people who share name and social status, etc over time over and over again.
that is all.
>Nintendo only did the book to make money. It's not real.
Son, it's a videogame. None of it is real.
Timeline's canon, get over it.
Zelda says specifically in the memories that this game after twilight princess
It's just a game series that gets milked to make money. Get a life nerds
>posting on Sup Forums's video game board
>calling other people nerds
Zelda 2 was released as a sequel to Zelda 1.
Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Link to the Past was released as a prequel to Zelda 1, and was paraded as much in promotional material in manuals.
LTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Ocarina of Time was released, and said to be the precursor of all of them. In truth it gave an origin story for Ganondorf and the imprisoning war in ALTTP.
OOT > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Majora's Mask was released as a direct continuation of the events of OOT.
OOT > MM > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Wind Waker was released as a distant sequel to Ocarina of Time, and according to interviews with Aonuma at the time, took place in a second ending in Ocarina of Time (the future Link left behind)
OOT -------> WW
OOT > MM > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Four Swords was released for Gameboy and in an interview Aonuma claimed it was the oldest tale in the series.
FS > OOT -------> WW
FS >OOT > MM > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Minish Cap was released as a prequel to FS as the origin story for the Four Sword.
MC > FS > OOT -------> WW
MC > FS >OOT > MM > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Twilight Princess was released as another sequel to OOT, this time Aonuma once again mentions the split timeline and alternate endings of OOT. Although this caused confusion due to ALTTP, we now know this is because of the third split.
MC > FS > OOT -------> WW
MC > FS > OOT > MM --> TP
MC > FS > OOT > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
...How long do you want me to go on?
THERE IS NO TIMELINE.
VIDEO PROOF:
youtube.com
Please, keep going.
I'm not going to read any of it, but I'm glad you're wasting your time arguing about video games anonymously
>The officially licensed Nintendo product is not canon because I say so
Okay sure.
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks were both released as a direct continuation of the Wind Waker storyline.
MC > FS > OOT -------> WW > PH > ST
MC > FS > OOT > MM --> TP
MC > FS > OOT > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Skyward Sword is released as an orgin story for everything, including the Hero, Princess, Ganon, and even the Master Sword.
SS > MC > FS > OOT -------> WW > PH > ST
SS > MC > FS > OOT > MM --> TP
SS >MC > FS > OOT > ALTTP > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Nintendo releases the Hyrule Historia, which answers questions regarding games that never had defined placements (Link's Awakening, Oracle of Ages/Seasons, Four Swords Adventures.) This volume is officially licensed by Nintendo and written by Eiji Aonuma and Shigeru Miyamoto.
SS > MC > FS > OOT -------> WW > PH > ST
SS > MC > FS > OOT > MM --> TP > FSA
SS > MC > FS > OOT > ALTTP > OOX > LA > Zelda 1 > Zelda 2
Many years later, autist on Sup Forums gets triggered by this and makes dumb shit post claiming to know more than series producers.
>I'm glad you're wasting your time arguing about video games anonymously
Where do you think you are?
Didn't they retcon the oracle games to be their own thing in the Hyrule Encylopedia to fix a continuity error?
They're legends, they don't have to line up with each other. Each game is just a different story being told
Wow, look at this smart guy. He's so poetic. Look at how intelligent and amazing he is. I would've never thought this. Wow. Who knew that all those sequels and prequels and official interviews were absolutely meaningless? This guy knows everything. Get fucked Shigeru Miyamoto, you don't know SHIT about Zelda, this Anonymous guy on the internet just shat all over you with his super intelligent internet post. He completely changed my entire perspective about life itself. I may as well just kill myself because everything I've ever known from my birth is a lie.
Yeah, in the old version of the downfall branch the Oracle game's hero was LttP Link. However Zelda in those games never met Link until Ganon appeared in the linked ending.
Now the Oracle Link is an entirely new Link.
Neck yourself lad
gelbooru
I'm sure it must be fun to theorize about timeline stuff, but isn't the fact that there have now been three official timelines given out, all of which contradict each other, proof that there was never meant to be one?
>he plays Zelda games for the story
>he plays Zelda games for the lore
>he plays Zelda games for the timeline
>the timeline doesn't exist, Nintendo just said it to sell a book
Then Weg the fuck all you fags care? Nintendo only made Zelda to make money too
they literally explain the entire timeline in skyward sword and make it easy enough for a five year old to infer the rest of the timeline from that. jesus christ you autists will argue about anything.
You know it doesn't matter because they can just retcon the timelines with no consequence.
Obviously.
>All of the mainline zelda games have obvious connections to the other games.
Just like all Final Fantasy have obvious connections. Names of spells and items, chocobos, crystals, warriors of light and so on.
I haven't played ALL Zelda games, finished only like 6 of them (3 of them more than once), but didn't find a single mention of another world or another Link in another time-space or any shit like that.
Subsequent Zelda games are pretty much what we today know as reboots. They retell a story about a guy saving the world and a girl, also reusing some characters and stuff.
>BOTW completely ignores the timeline
It made me so happy
Why would it affect your opinion one way or another whether a reference to a timeline is made?
Alright. Explain the hero of time then. He appears as a stalfos-like mentor in TP and he is directly referenced by characters in WW. WW's backstory is a hyrule that was not saved from ganondorf a second time. TP's backstory is a hyrule that was saved by the hero of time, and TP's hyrule is saved from ganondorf a second time over the course of the game.
nope, but the attempts at a timeline have been retarded so far and stuff like Skyward Sword just fumbles it badly so I'd prefer for them just to focus on the story of the game itself than the overarching story.
Mainly because Zelda 1-MM clearly did not follow any sort of timeline.
>completely ignores the timeline
It doesn't. It just seems to take every timeline, and mash them all together. It references wind waker in several item descriptions, as well as koroks.
It references the hero of time and the hero of twilight directly.
it's almost as-if OoT is the most popular Zelda game and they based the story of every game since off of it
Are you referring to Zelda talking about the Master Sword?
Just easter eggs. It's impossible for the Master Sword to be adrift in time AND steeped in twlight in the same timeline.
Breath of the Wild is the end of the timeline. It's SO far into the future that every previous game can be considered a legend or fairy tale.
The placement of outsourced and spinoff titles like the Oracles, Four Swords, Tri Force Heroes and Minish Cap are all completely arbitrary and tend to be inconsistent. Breath of the Wild is basically a soft reboot with how far into the future it is and its lack of any distinct ties to the rest of the series besides races and easter eggs.
But all the major releases in the series have a very clear, referenced connection to each other. Zelda 2 immediately follows Zelda 1, Link to the Past is a prequel that explains the origins, Ocarina of Time goes even further back to when the kingdom was recently formed and Ganon was still a king of thieves as mentioned by the maidens in LttP. Links Awakening and Majoras Mask are sidestories featuring previously introduced Links, Wind Waker and its sequels are an alternate ending to Ocarina of Time, Skyward Sword is a direct prequel to Ocarina, etc.
The timelines a mess because Nintendo feels the need to shoehorn every single game into it regardless of its content, story or director, but it's there and pretty obvious. The basic framework of the timeline was well known years before Hyrule Historia released.
>I decide what is an easter egg and what isn't
The delusion.
Just because the explanations crafted around the facts fit them does not make the explanations true. None of what you're saying is confirmed by any in-game source, and all the connections are vague enough to easily be interpreted as a reimagining. It's not like the Temple of Time ever looks the same in any of the games it's appeared.
>every event from different timelines is remembered
so BotW is some sort of inter-dimensional reunion of the timeline?
No, its just impossible for what Zelda says to be anything but an easter egg
>game series literally has the world "legend" in it
>hurr this series needs a timeline
I bet 90% of timelinefags are Americans. They're like an autistic kid that complains about someone using the same sock puppets for different stage plays.
>plagued Zelda
What sort of disease do you have user?
Aside from the direct sequels/prequels, I don't know why anyone wants or cares about this timeline bullshit. Obviously stuff like the first game and Adventure of Link are related, all the stuff with Toon Link is related, and OoT and MM are related, those all star the same Link, but who gives a fuck about tying all the games together?
It's a convoluted, inconsistent clusterfuck for the sake of appeasing autistic fanboys. And the fact that they made a spinoff timeline for a story possibility that exists in literally every single game, Link dying, is absolutely fucking retarded. It made sense to make two in OoT because there are actually two different timelines, but a third based on validating a gameplay condition that's present in every single fucking game? Without making alternate timelines for each of those games? Transparent asspulling retardation.