Capcom Says Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite Is "Simplistic," Street Fighter 5 "In A Good Place Now"

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>Capcom and Marvel have used words like "simplistic" and "accessible" to describe Infinite,

well rip in peace mvc:i, what needs to happen for these fags to understand that simplifying does nothing? Casuals only want to button mash and beat story. Hardcore want to grind and learn a deep / rewarding game. If you make it extremely simple and straightforward then LITERALLY NOBODY WINS! Very few casuals care about going pro, and if they really wanted to, they would go for it no matter how 'hard' the game is.
When, WHEN will they finally understand this? How many more failures?

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wouldn't it be interesting if people other than ultra try hards decided to play online and were actually good (or at least seemed good)? the over complexities of fighting games are why they aren't as popular anymore as say when arcades were a thing, doesn't help that all the recent fighting games were also dogshit but oh well

Capcom LITERALLY can't make a good game anymore

Nice repost OP
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Good now I won't to do a j2C spam to do infinite just press A

Yeah, it's like Mahvel3 was harcore as fuck or something

I don't really think casuals care if the game is accessible. They're going to buy/ play it regardless.

i bet it will still have hidden high-level tech that lab monsters will discover, and "glitches" that allow for stupid shit like infinites like in marvel 3

Just put out Deep Down already and die.
Looks like their last bit of creative effort.

People need to understand that simply if doesn't mean easy. MvC3 simplified the formula with a launcher button and less buttons but no one ever says the game has no depth. Marvel games in general are meant to be easier than others because it has easy chains but it's the player base that breaks the game and makes it deep

Simplified*

so are they going to push the casual route until it doesn't sell like they want then go hardcore for tourney fags again like they did with SF5

post yfw they add autocombo

>but no one ever says the game has no depth
Most people say that about MvC3.

They say it's broken and unfair but not that it's not deep.

MvC has always meant to be a casual FG with lots of spectacle to draw in people

MvC2's depth (a tier list of 10 or so broken characters that more or less balance themselves against eachother, a cast of low tiers that are basically another game) is an anomaly and probably impossible to willingly replicate

People just need to wait for ACTUAL gameplay before saying anything and making judgements. Y'all just thirsty as fuck.

>Infinite is simplistic
>SFV is in a good place

Capcbros WILL defend this
>b-but people only play capcom games anyways even if I wanted to play something new
Kill you'reself my man, so long as there is ONE(ichi) other person to play against, the game is not dead.

Wait what the fuck
Capcbros
Capdrones
Capfags
Niggers

Biocucks
Blizzcucks
Nintenbros
Sonybros
Microcucks

Alright I can understand Nintendo and Sony censoring, but capcom? Give me a break you dicksucking mods.

Go back to not playing Guilty Gear and KoF.

no problems with crapcum

i dont understand why capcom needs to make infinite simplistic though didn't mvc3 already do that?

Go back to sucking capcums dick for selling you an early access game for full price and hewing the fuck out of you for costumes and characters you have to grind for once you exhaust your FM you earned from story, arcades, and survivals which amount to about 4 or so characters out of the soon to be 10

People don't seem to know that the person who said that was the Capcom CEO in Europe being interviewed for a business site. He has no real idea about how the game is actually panning out and is probably just saying that for PR purposes.

I don't even play SF. I play Marvel and Guilty gear instead of shit posting and not actually playing games.

>We want the game to be simpler
>but also we want e-sports twitch views and tournaments

This is EXACTLY what killed SFV. Capcom hasn't learned a damn thing.

k but will they add Shuma Gorath, Venom and Blackheart? Capcom literally uses Shuma Gorath better than marvel ever did

i dont know if i should really say this since im trash at pretty much all fighting games but man im almost afraid that capcom is going to destroy fighting games

For anyone who wants the actual article instead of gamestops click bait.

gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-03-15-east-meets-west-how-capcom-is-evolving-to-meet-a-global-audience

This guy clearly has no idea about fighters so I wouldn't trust him.

Shuma has been present for most of the versus series. I know I can't say for sure, but I don't see why they wouldn't put him in.

>what needs to happen for these fags to understand that simplifying does nothing
What needs to happen for you to understand that complexity of previous MvC games (MvC3 in particular) is not doing it any favours?

Everyone with a brain saw this coming. As I said in a previous thread, Capcom cannot develop games by themselves anymore. They needed Sony's help to make SF5, and they need Disney's help to make MVC:I. Unlike Sony, Disney won't just sit back and let Capcom do what they want, they are going to force them to aggressively dumb the game down so that it appeals to the widest audience possible, basically just being another piece of licensed shovelware.

Not really. All their "competitors" if you can call them that are smart enough not to follow their trends, even if they aren't as popular.

If SF and Marvel die, it just means fighting games don't become e-sports. Which is actually a good thing desu, but that can also be achieved by Capcom not being retarded, as unlikely as that is.

>Capcom says
ASURA'S WRATH PC PORT - WHEN?!

>they are going to force them to aggressively dumb the game down so that it appeals to the widest audience possible, basically just being another piece of licensed shovelware.
Took long enough for this to happen to fighters. I mean it happened to most other genres in gen 7 or even the end of gen 6 to some extent.

That only applies to their fighters. Marvel/Disney wants GOOD games this time around so watching Capcom is actually good thing so we don't get rushed shit like SF5. The fact that it's being made in house shows how much they want it to be good

They had to fight tooth and nail to get Shuma in MvC3, Marvel only agreed to it if Shuma was made into DLC.

So what I'm saying is that don't expect Shma in Mahvel because Shuma is not in the movies and Marvel is not exactly pushing Shuma in the comics either.
>They needed Sony's help to make SF5, and they need Disney's help to make MVC:I.
Only for the money, and chances are that Marvel did not want to renew the licences unless they had a larger hand in the production.
>Disney won't just sit back and let Capcom do what they want
Disney or Marvel? Because allegedly Disney has no control what Marvel does with the Marvel licences, but they aren't pleased by the result

Yes, that is all nice and dandy, but can we get actual news now? You know, character announcements, stage announcements, mechanics, contents, a showcase of more polished models compared to the first trailer, i would be happy even with a fucking sneak peek at the soundtrack.
It's been pretty much 3 months and we know barely anything about this thing; sure, E3 will probably guarantee more news, but everyone's begging to see something before it.

not him but i dont think casual players care about doing complex stuff in marvel at all most just want to do something flashy and it's already pretty easy to do something like that without much effort in marvel 3

>"In A Good Place Now"
YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING

It might be easy to do something flashy, but it's not easy to get good at it. It's not easy to execute well and it only gets harder depending on your team

>There are people that actually thought MvCI was going to be good.

MAKE BLACKHEART GREAT AGAIN

SFV had no news after Bison until E3. Enjoy the wait

>Casuals only want to button mash and beat story.
That's how Mortal Kombat and Injustice sell millions.

Capcom wants to sell well at expense of discarting anyone who wants something more.

i dont think most casuals care about getting good unless they already had a interest in the inner workings of fighting games anyway

Weve only seen alpha gameplay and nothing beyond that. Chill

sfv is NOT in a good place.

what the fuck is going on at capcom hq?

Yes but the complexity of the game will be the big deciding point for something like that. The harder the game is the less likely people are to truly get invested, just as watch as UMVC3 gets really low EVO numbers this year despite the re-release.

can't make your money maker look bad no matter what the cost

mvc3 gets low numbers because the game hasn't had anything new added to it in years

MvC was always simplistic compared to SF, what drugs are you on?

>THEY'RE DOING THE SIMPLISTIC FIGHTING GAME MEME AGAIN

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Are there any low tier only Mahvel 2 tournaments?
I wanna watch that

Not even out and it's already fucking dead
Capcom needs to fucking burn

Hey guys SFV is in a good place!

All Marvel characters are ultimately Marvel's decision, Capcom can appoint their preferences but Marvel has the final word, for example Capcom wanted Human Torch in MvC3 but they were having technical difficulties with properly implementing his flames without pushing consoles too much and Marvel had a rule for the Fantastic Four to always have all if its members playable when just one is considered to be on the roster, only non playable appearances to contain just one member of the team, with that Capcom just gave up on Human Torch, bringing Super Skrull to have more or less the entire FF together.

I don't know about tournaments but a lot of people play low tier for fun in casuals

What do they mean by simple? Not having to hit the assist buttons when you're mashing the same button combo over and over again?

cauals dont know who the hell shuma gorath is. hell i didnt until mvc3. if they want the game to be simplistic and accessible then they will probably go for more recognizable characters that have 2 arms and 2 legs or just 4 legs

I'd be happier if the patch came at the end of March instead of April and it came with netcode adjustments.

The shoddy netcode is my biggest reason for disliking SFV.

>mvc3 gets low numbers because the game hasn't had anything new added to it in years
That's not stopping Melee now is it?

Melee and Marvel are different games, stop comparing them as if they are fighting games

>expecting modern disney marvel making hard game that they cant market to casuals
>expecting nothing more than movie tied characters
>expecting good netcode from capcom side
wew lads you all faggots

It had a scene added in the last couple of years.

Smash/Nintendo people only play smash. ONLY SMASH. FGC has options so they gravitate to games with support

Marvel always wants relevant characters in the MvC games.

Shuma hasn't been relevant sense MvC3
Cheeky

Good they confirmed it's gonna be shit.
I get to save my money now.

>you all faggots
says the guy taking pictures of man ass.

Considering that Strange movie Shuma getting in has a higher chance that usual

I don't really care how simplistic it is, if I can hit a guy in the air 200 times before he can land then it's good enough for me.

>Hardcore want to grind and learn a deep / rewarding game.

Then go ruin some other game with your autism.

And Jesus H. Fucking Christ, take a shower and learn how to interact socially.

Good. Great! I never really liked MAHVEL and any game where you can get locked into a 200 hit combo without being able to do anything is fucked up on a conceptual level (sorry Skullgirls).

Capcom worked a fucking miracle in making SF V the 2D equivalent of Soul Calibur (the good ones); here's hoping they can work a miracle on this game as well.

Btw doomsaying retards say SF V is dead but the numbers speak for themselves ;)

kek you say that like 3 wasn't simplistic

Underated post
It never occure to me that Redditors make it a point to come here for (You)s

Goddamn that place is cancer holy shit it's just e-celeb drama and porn posting.
So it's basically Sup Forums the subreddit

Strange movie did not have Shuma in it

That's why it's pretty tolerable when it comes to sub reddits

wouldn't it be interesting if we removed aiming from shooting games and just have them running around and use skills so everyone can win?

I want the ability to actually win against some players when I play online this time instead of just fighting against normal difficulty computers. When I played online, I kept getting bodied no matter what I did or how much I trained. Obviously, losing isn't fun, but when other "beginner" leveled people are comboing and stun locking me to death, I can't do anything.

Every single time I played online umvc3, my opponents got perfect victories. I'm not joking.

Not being able to play as 3 characters and having less characters overall is the killing factor for me for mvc:i

that movie had Dormammu in it, and he was just a cloud I think, just like Galactus