MC defeats people who've trained their entire lives after a year at most because of talent

>MC defeats people who've trained their entire lives after a year at most because of talent

>MC bummbles to success through happenstance and the will of the Gods

>MC defeats people who trained their entire lives on his first time because lol he's smart and gifted

>mc then lectures others on how there's no such thing as destiny you just have to believe and work hard

God I hate anime.

>MC beats people who've trained their entire lives because he has the bigger heart.

>spend whole game trying to prevent the summoning of great evil
>gets summoned
>just kill it in a straight up fight

WHAT WAS THE POINT OF ALL THIS CONFLICT IF SOME STRONG MOTHERFUCKERS WAS ALL IT TOOK

If you think that's bad, just look at the number of people on Sup Forums who actually swallow that lousy excuse of literary lameness right up like it's sweet penis nectar to them.

>postgame secret boss is stronger than you
>could have stepped in at anytime to help but didn't

Some people will always remain eternal shitters no matter how much they train.

Talent > Training.

>Sup Forums poster probably wants to talk about some VN or anime they finished half an hour ago, but all I can think of is that it sounds like what happens in the SAO movie

>"Don't underestimate us young people, old man!"
>"Yeah! *pumps fist*"

Anime's fine. Just force yourself to watch it and don't be a coward like me.

>MC lucks out into getting a good ending with happy funtimes for everyone
>Dude who has been busting his ass for multiple years lost everything, even the life of his waifu and his best friend

>MC defeats people who've trained their entire lives because he is bigger

>thousands die in war
>'They just didnt believe in themselves, only through the power of determination can one achieve victory'

Are we going to talk about anime, or are we just gonna shitpost?

...

Shitpost, looks like.

>Make MC a likable guy that the viewer can relate to
>Surround him with women and put him in various stages of a budding relationship with all of them
>Wish fulfillment sells, who woulda thunk it

>MC tries their hardest
>has power of friendship
>still loses in the end

>MC is a highly trained special ops soldier but he has to be reminded on how to fight grunts

Now this was a fucking awesome moment, for those who don't want to read Majikoi, I'll spoiler it for those still reading she gets told that she will never make it to the level of her adoptive sister and should stop chasing a silly dream, she doesn't take it well and reaches an agreement with the old man in charge of them, if she wins the fighting tournament they host every year they'll shut up and let her continue try and become as strong (and eventually beat) her adoptive sister.

She goes thru every animu cliche in the book, training montages, the power of friendship, etc. And she doesn't make it. Gets BTFO in the quarterfinals and is forced to accept that her old man and sister were right and the childhood dream she's been working for all this time is unatainable, which lead to the acene in OP's pic where she's crying her eyes out and you're just standing in the background going "Fuuug..."

For being a VN that thrives on animu nonsense, Majikoi has a few moment like this that redeem it in my eyes as a worthy VN

Wasn't this a thing in Dragon's Dogma?

Except they're not relatable, they're just projectable.

Who the fuck could relate to or like an abomination like My Unit?

Honestly was blindsided by the scene, it's fantastically done because you don't see people fucking totally lose with no hope of a comeback often. Especially not when some of the other highlights of other routes are a world martial arts tournament where the Japanese PM joins you as a sniper, or you claim you're not a lolicon while fucking the class president. Seriously, your dick was half the size of her!

>implying Majikoi isn't good exactly because of all the animu nonsense it has
Many visual novels and animes are just trying to be entertaining, not works of art. And dare I say that Majikoi is one of the best at it.

>Getting excited at losing

>Chest acne and stretch marks
Roids, not even once.

Reminds me of stories of good-hearted American kids being mowed down by German machine guns in WW2 before they wizened up.

Trying to be a work of art usually comes off as pretentious anyway. Entertainment should be entertaining.

If all you ever do is win, losing can be fun

Gaara VS Rock Lee

Thank you, captain Bloody Fucking Obvious.

Your welcome

>Roofs

No user, that guy was clearly fat at one time and got fit.

Lee deserved to lose. Anybody with a bowl cut deserves to lose in everything thing they try to do.

>Dedicate your life to vidya
>Become better than guy the universe had already decided to be the best
>Mysteriously contract Aids and die

>roids

No user, that guy was clearly fat at one time and got fit.

>MC finds an unidentified scroll at dungeon level 1 and reads it.
>accidentally summons a horde of horny buttsexual demons with diamond tipped cocks and is raped to death
who /casual/ here?

Oh no user, I didn't mean it that way, I also like it because it's animu nonsense. But things like that scene is what makes me go "Yeah, you should totally read majikoi" instead of "It's just entertaining."

To use an analogy I used with a friend a while back, it's cake frosting. It's what makes a cake... Cake. Without it a cake would just be bread. But you can't just eat the frosting, it sounds disgusting to even try it, you still need the bread to make it palatable. Such is the lot with Japanese things. We like them because they're Japanese, we want that flavor, but just having Japanese flavor for the sake of Japanese flavor is the one thing we hate weebs for, you still need something solid to hold it together, or they're just cake frosting.

I cried a little bit during that part

I love momoyo but fuck me that was heartbreakingly cold

Just like real life.

If you think hard work gets you anywhere in life you're dead wrong.

>he makes food analogies of anime to his friends
Chad called, he said you are a virgin bitch

>Game mocks the power of friendship bullshit
>You still win because of it

SMT4A can kiss the darkest part of my asshole.

Hey, we all get food analogies don't we? food is the great unifier and the great divider user, don't fear it

Is the VN fully translated? Last time I heard years ago they were stuck on Miyako route or whatever.

Majikoi and Majikoi A are fully translated.

So are majikoi A-1 and A-2.

Now it is, the faggots at Fuwanovel picked up where yandere Translations left it and translated the Miyako route I dunno about the side routes tho, only worthwhile one was Sensei's and that one got translated by Yandere before going under

In reference to what?

>Porn visual novel about martial artist girl
>Not ryona

Are there any games where I can beat the Chosen One through hard work?

Awesome, added to my backlog.

tfw Fuwa is fucking dead thanks to Sekai

>MC confronts a stronger opponent
>dies
>story changes perspective to a different character

FF7, debatable.

Most of the girls are physically stronger than the guys in the first game. Momoyo is literally the strongest in the world, on par with an army by herself. I feel you user, we need more ryona.

Majikoi is far from being a nukige. It's closer to a SoL.

What games do this?
The only one I can think of was some cheap AdultSwim game called Wasted where if your character dies they give you a new one to play as.

In ZHP, the MC goes from random NEET to literal superhero via hard work, and even surpases the original hero who was supossed to stop doomsday, so I guess it counts

>MC is a common every day person
>but can win fights and overcome all challenges with tenacity
>every fight is a struggle
>lol jk you're the son/prophecy/power hidden within you of some god

Even in fantasy you're only awesome due to genes.

It's how reality is. Even if you're not awesome due to genes, you're awesome due to circumstance, one way or another.

>Naruto

It always bugged me that he ended up being the reincarnation of ninja Jesus.

Kishimoto basically invalidated the entire pre-timeskip story.

There are quite a few of those, but it almost always turns out to be "Lol he/she was a fake chosen one you were the real deal all along lol."

Just once I'd like to play a game where every other character isn't constantly sucking off the MC because the gods chose him/her to do whatever, and instead they think you're some kinda swindler fake until you legitimately prove yourself.

Or there's an actual chosen one and he/she isn't just a fake, but through hard work and intelligence the MC is overall the superior hero.

This is more of a problem with anime/manga though.

>Just once I'd like to play a game where every other character isn't constantly sucking off the MC because the gods chose him/her to do whatever, and instead they think you're some kinda swindler fake until you legitimately prove yourself.

Breath of the Wild.

Even after you get the Master Sword people think you and it are both fake.

it's trying to tell you something
success is highly circumstantial and depends heavily on connections
"work hard and you'll go far" is a meme unless personal (unsung) success is satisfying to you

There are plenty of games where you're no one special

S.T.A.L.K.E.R for example

That's an element of Fable that I kind of despise, every single protagonist is a decendant of the biggest baddest mothefucker to ever live.

>the one person better than the MC died of AIDS

>MC defeats people who've trained all their lives because he's a main character with a higher level cap than others
>this is a canon in-universe explanation

It exists
Entire game is based on the premise that the chosen one got ran over by a car and died, so in with his last breath asks the MC to kill the final boss for him
MC gets fucking wrecked on live national TV and has to train and fight the final boss again and again
Eventually people start getting touched by his efforts and acknowledging him as the real deal

There's a reason this is so common: it's fun. People like to fantasize about being special.

I mean Rance is a pawn put on the board by one of the three greater gods of the world just under the supreme god, he's hardly a nobody. Also he often gets shit on by better fighters than him in straight fights.

>Warriors who have trained for years lose to a ragtag group of teenagers

I like how the Zora mostly want you to kys for failing and getting their princess killed 100 years ago.

does there exist a game where you're the chosen one to fulfill a prophecy given to you but it turns out that prophecy was to resurrect an ancient evil.
I know there just has to be

That's only the elderly Zora.

The rest of them are thankful that you survived and appreciative of how you at least tried to help save Hyrule.

I did like that they put effort towards creating that rift between the generations though.

>Implying rance doesn´t win because his dick is bigger

RULES OF NATURE

That too

>MC is a hardened motherfucker that trained his entire life to kill shit with a flip flops
>random mooks still throw their lives at him by hundreds

>Just once I'd like to play a game where every other character isn't constantly sucking off the MC because the gods chose him/her to do whatever, and instead they think you're some kinda swindler fake until you legitimately prove yourself.

Literally, LITERALLY Gothic 2.

>muh talent

Literally a meme perpetuated by popular media. Everyone trains. Some harder than others. It's mainly just an excuse for shitters to blame their shortcomings on.

>MC defeats people who've trained their entire lives after a year at most because of talent

just like reality then

>A cake without frosting is just bread
>But you can't just eat the frosting, it sounds disgusting to even try it
Get a load of this fucking cake casual.

having a talent basically increases your skill cap. Untalented person will never be able to keep up if they both input equal work

True. Japan loves to put emphasis on talent vs skill, its so common in their media, its also where the phrase ''shikataganai'' comes from.

Thats a load of bull. Pic related.

what about a person with 100% hard work checkmate athiests

>MC politely looks away from someone eating
What an overrated waste of time this entire series was

what

Of course, 101% is higher than 100%.

they wanted to make you strong enough to defeat it.

>Who is ciaphas cain
>Who is every gundam protag

Actually most of the time it's because of luck or 10v1 scub. There are very few times Rance won by himself.

>MC is forced to take responsibility for every bit of bullshit and sacrifice everything to save the world just because he's the only one talented enough to do so

I've only played sengoku, but I didn't feel like he was overly powerful.

One thing that stands out in my head was the part where the homo-demon wants to bugger him and he keeps sending out other people to fight instead because he gets one shot if he tries.

Ciaphas is kind of like One Punch Man though. He's more of a joke than a serious character.

Also the books are more about his personality than his achievements.

what

has there ever been a character who has hated there own talent? I don't remember if there was