So now that ME:A turned out to be shit, the only WRPG I'm looking forward to is Cyberpunk. Any news on the release date yet?
So now that ME:A turned out to be shit, the only WRPG I'm looking forward to is Cyberpunk...
Google it retard
Game is basically vaporware. CD Projekt can't make a good game without a source material sadly.
Personally, I hope they just announce it a few months before release so there's no waiting around. I'd rather be kept in the dark until then so I don't bother hyping it up too much.
The joke is the large amount of cp2020 source material?
Current estimate of the release date that makes the most sense is spring 2018.
I think we'll get first real trailers in late 2017. Release mid 2018.
It's coming June 2019, feel free to screencap this.
Theres no leaks about CDPR being on this years E3 right?
And they previously commented about announcing the game 6 months before release like Fallout 4.
yes cp2020 source material is only gameplay which need to be heavily changed to make it work in video game. Story wise, character wise eve lore vise 57 years gap they need to do everything from scratch. But i think they will manage easilly because in Witcher series best characters and quests were writen by CDPR from scratch, not Sapkowski.
when it's ready™
so they'll make an excellent game then?
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No way, it's too much time. It's being produced 100% since B&W. Been in preproduction earlier.
It isn't. They'll release 2 AAA RPGs in the 2017-2021 axis so 2018 makes the most sense for Cyberpunk since there's 3 years between the titles TW3 2015 ---> CP2077 2018 --->Unnamed RPG 2021
Nope, they'll probably be at the Microsoft stage this year too.
CD Projekt has posted more details about the projects, that will be partially funded by the Polish government.
The most important part seems to be the timeline for all 4 projects (that is seamless multiplayer, cinematic feel, animation excellence and city creation) - they will run from 01/2016 and 01/2017 until 06/2019. It's important to note, that the funded projects should be released by that date, but CDPR can apply to have those deadlines extended.
All of the projects will be included in RedEngine 4, the next iteration of the RedEngine.
CDPR is now looking for the following contractors to help deliver all 4 projects.
How long has this game been in development again? They announced it in 2013 if I remember correctly.
That's a D&D role playing game. CD Projekt has to imagine everything themselves unlike the Witcher, which is a novel that creates an entire world and background to work with.
They literally don't have to imagine everything themselves
Are you fucking retarded?
There's tons of written out lore and background info in cyb2020
Not to mention it's basically all lifted off of Gibson's books so they've got that too
Small team handling pre-production a few years
2015 main team focused on w3/Hos, after HoS main team focused on Cp77 while b team made BW, after BW everyones at CP77 except the Gwent team.
Early 2013, I believe they announced it with this trailer youtube.com
Because role playing games don't have extensive background lore, correct?
Are they calling it Cyberpunk 2077 but keeping the same setting so they don't have to explain why cyberpunk happens 3 years from now or is 2077 entirely separate from 2020?
>They literally don't have to imagine everything themselves
Yea they do. Does the word role playing game mean anything to you? The actual definition is about creating your own adventure.
>Because role playing games don't have extensive background lore, correct?
Paper and pen RPGs just give you some settings and guidelines. You still have to create your own characters and stories.
It's a video game you spud
Its alternate time, same as Deus ex. Probably diverged from the actual timeline in the 70's-90's.
>>>>now
We always knew Andromeda would be ahit. Even back when some ex-Bioware dev on Sup Forums leaked the name "Mass Effect Andromeda" and an in-progress story about going to another Galaxy right after ME3 came out, we knew it was going to be shit.
Just hope they get the pacing right this time. Witcher 3 was horrible in this regard.
Thanks for the info
Okay so it's basically set 57 years inside the already cyberpunky future of 2020?
2077
That's very good.
> set 57 years inside the already cyberpunky future of 2020?
We dont know, for witcher cdpr considered everything that happened in the books canon. They might not for cp source material.
The biggest question is: is Ciri going to make an appearance: youtu.be
Literally vaporware. It hurts me inside
Great. Lots of source material for Cyberpunk.
CDProject averages 4 years between games. So sometime in 2018-2019 is assumed.
God I hope not, her voice actor was awful.
If they do I hope shes a street prostitute so its fits the VA.
That would be great. Probably will happen.
The way they have things set up, Ciri has to make an appearence in this game, and pretty much every game CDProjekt makes. It would be a fun way to tie all their games together. And would not be lore breaking in the slightest.
hope its before the bombs drop in October
>Great. Lots of source material for Cyberpunk.
About as much source material as knights and dragons in high fantasies. Doesn't say much about creating a compelling original game, unlike the Witcher which is just a straight lift from a novel.
Release date is mid fall: never
>except the Gwent team.
CyberPunk confirmed to fail.
>CDProject averages 4 years between games
How do you figure that?
>time between W2 and W3: 4 years
>time between W1 and W2: 4 years
>time btween beginning of the universe and W1: 13.8 billion years
The original creator of w3 gwent left the company btw.
when it's done
or not
I'm actually not surprised if they include some form of easter egg involving Ciri considering her mentioning about a world where people had metal in their heads, they used megascope like devices to wage war from a distance and everyone had a personal flying ship as she was travelling from world to world.
We don't know if June 2019 is C2077 release or their last planned expansion for the game, but it's the date CDPR put on their grant papers. Basically applied for some government program to fund their R&D for Cyberpunk and said the project will last until June 2019.
>considering her mentioning about a world where people had metal in their heads, they used megascope like devices to wage war from a distance and everyone had a personal flying ship as she was travelling from world to world
You literally just described the video the user you quoted posted m8. At least fucking check the title of the video before responding next time
Lel sorry. Can't afford to watch shit on data.
I think it wasn't that bad, obviously open world and fuckton of sidequests didn't help. Haven't played Andromeda yet, but people say they actually fixed that by tying in all sidequests into the main story somehow, making them feel urgent, yet not absolutely necessary to complete.
>now that ME:A turned out to be shit
Was that result ever in question?
I was expecting something like ME2 where the main story was shit but at least had some fun characters and enjoyable combat.
Me1-3 was stellar excluding the ending.
Everyone thought the Mass effect team had talent in it while the Dragon age team sucked balls and hoped MEA was still at least okay.
Now we know both teams lost talent over the years.
Not that guy but the side quests aren't the main problem (I fucking hope at least some developers learn that you can have great sidequest writing instead of putting fetch quests everywhere, even in an AAA game)
The main story itself is just really weirdly paced from the point UMA first appears
Isn't combat good? Reviewers I tend to agree with all praised it.
Okay let's see here
No, lots of people have hated ME2 even before ME3 came out
No, ME3's only problem wasn't the ending, the entire story was pants on head retarded after Tuchanka
Obviously Bioware has no actually good devs left, they've all been gone for years, but MEA wasn't even the same studio bro
>the only WRPG I'm looking forward to
Bethesda is gonna release 2 big open world games before TES 6, so that makes it 4 games for me including cyberpunk
inb4 "why hello todd" comments
Ok, I see it now. Didn't bother me when I played, but in hindsight it was quite erratic.
I guess that could have to do with massive rewrites and rearrangement of stuff in the game, the leaked documents from like 2 years before release showed a completely different game.
your opinion contradicts itself as cyberpunk 2077 is based on the role playing game cyberpunk 2020. even if it wasnt, tho, there isnt a game they made that was completely a new ip which means there wasnt a new ip they made that sold bad, or good. so basically the reason for your existence eludes everyone, care to edify us?
It was like Kaer Morhen was the actual natural end for the story but then they decided to drag it along a bit more
I enjoyed the writing a lot and this doesn't really drag down the game but it just felt a bit more lifeless compared to the Crones and Baron
Me2 had universal acclaim. If we have to consider the loud contrarians then every popular game has lots of haters, it just doesnt mean anything.
The Know released a video yesterday sharing CDPR's press release stating the game will arrive by june 2019
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From interviews, the intention is (was?) to release a new edition of the pen and paper in conjunction with the video game. They have the author on board, so they can.
Seems to be the only redeeming feature from what I've heard although I was never a fan of the bullet sponge enemies and cover based stuff. Writing is fan fic tier from what I've seen and it's only compounded by the goofy animations
I'm sorry user, but is this actually the base of your argument here? Universal fucking acclaim?
Game critics are a joke
Sales are a joke because casuals will buy anything that has enough marketing
Better than your argument "shitposter on Sup Forums said it sucks so he'd get replies, thats why its baaaaad"
>Seems to be the only redeeming feature from what I've heard
Did you respond to the wrong post? Cause that doesn't really make sense as an answer to my post, I believe
I'll just assume you're talking about combat because you meant to quote the post above mine, and the gameplay in ME3 was indeed good enough IMO to do at least 2 or 3 playthroughs with different classes while ignoring how shit the story becomes later on
>bullet sponge
Not in ME3, but ME2 on insanity was pretty fucking ridiculous unless you used a Mattock
Yes I agree with this poster I have heard Bethesda make amazing open world games.
im not him but what you have there is an opinion.
i agree that there are critics who are indeed a joke but i am also subscribed to some who boast games where they executed right and tear them a new asshole where they executed wrong
sales are not a joke but the feedback from the players dictate things that get changed for the next game
I need to see some game play tho
You need just a little more patience, gameplay video is coming in 2018.
if they say its as open world as elder scrolls, im fucking buying the waterproof edition.
I don't even dislike ME2, but I'd take the opinion of 50% of this board arguing for ME2 while 50% argue against it over fucking IGN any day
You're obviously too young to remember the daily MAKO IS COMFY vs. MAKO IS BORING threads we had back in the day
>sales are not a joke
Skyrim sold like 30 million copies or something, right?
>but i am also subscribed to some who boast games where they executed right and tear them a new asshole where they executed wrong
Listening to a few dudes' opinions is not the same as universal acclaim as an argument
I don't know, according to some it's awfully dull, repetitive combined with the lackluster exploration and terribly buggy.
>your opinion contradicts itself as cyberpunk 2077 is based on the role playing game cyberpunk 2020
It doesn't contradict itself. Saying Cyberpunk 2020 is a source material is like saying D&D is a source material. It just gives you a setting and gameplay because it's an ACTUAL role playing game. You still have to conceive an entire story, world, lore, and characters. Cypberpunk 2077 is a very ambitious project that is basically being built from scratch and I believe it will fall short of its hype.
>trusting CDPR after The Batman Senses 3
games you look forward too, user, are never as good as you've hyped yourself up for them to be.
Yeah I meat to respond to the post above yours
>phone posting
Even better remember the threads about whether it was a better decision to save or destroy the collectors Base.
What was it worth like 50 war score or something
>this critically acclaimed game had a feature I didn't like, CDPR's next game is going to be shit, guys!
By the time this game comes out, it will be set in the past. People will say" Oh look, the cyborg lady has blades in her arms. How quaint. Remember when cyborgs just had arm blades? Those were the gool ol' days. Simpler times, simpler times..."
>Skyrim sold like 30 million copies or something, right?
whats your point here? sales obviously matter but just because a game sells a lot doesnt mean the developer will copy paste all the features, because if the majority of the feedback is that they want changes, those changes will happen because thats how companies improve games and try to sell more
>Listening to a few dudes' opinions is not the same as universal acclaim as an argument
there is almost never such a thing as universal acclaim, just seemingly consensual opinion amongst many. look at no mans sky, it has 70% negative reviews on steam but there is still a community of it of people who like it and play it. i look at the "majority's opinion" at sometimes "objective" in some areas where it makes sense, like how fallout 4 had a bad dialogue system, having 4 options always is obviously not the best system right? but if the majority thinks it sucks or its good, that is not universal acclaim if some people disagree with it. however, when it comes to developing the next games, the devs will listen to the majority of their player base and try to improve.
Yep, just like how every AAA RPG after Skyrim "improved" by adding a completely pointless boring open world
Sales don't indicate quality because casuals are stupid
Universal acclaim doesn't indicate quality because reviewers are even worse
Also, the majority opinion in the case of FO4 is "the dialog options are fine", because reviewers and casuals are basically braindead
well, your message definitely made me want to seek out whether this game has lore or whether you know what youre talking about, but aside from lore, story seems to be the strong side of the witcher 3, and CDPR is worth like a billion dollars right now, so i dont think they cant afford building on cb2020 if it doesnt have lore
hopefully one day you grow up and become able to try and find out amazing games
>What was it worth like 50 war score or something
you fucking wish
masseffect.wikia.com
the difference between the options is 10 warscore
Well, can we agree that Bethesda are the only ones that create interesting ones? the world looks great, and there is content 5-15 minute walk from literally anywhere. That's their formula. Zelda may have done something similar, or so it seems, but they still don't let you make your own story.
Honestly, the term 'open world' is broad in the industry. im mostly interested in bethesda's, but bethesda lacks 2 things imo; choices and consequences like in star wars kotor, and background stories for every character like in witcher 3.
i never said sales indicate quality.
its up to you to decide which reviewers make sense and which ones are a waste of time to watch. like if you look at fallout 4 reviews, none of the big gaming outlets pointed any of the problems that the majority of the community agreed on along with reviewers that arent from those outlets(outlets like ign, gamespot etc)
>the majority opinion in the case of FO4 is "the dialog options are fine"
youre wrong about that because when you look at reviews, most of them point out the dialogue was bad, and forums expressed the same, to the point where todd howard admitted to it in an interview.
>looking forward to a bioware game after DA2
>living with nothing to look forward to
i guess youve never played kotor which is bioware's best rpg
The only good wRPGs are jRPGs
>living with nothing to look forward to
Not that guy but I have hundreds of unplayed games on Steam, not to mention old console backlogs
I'm 100% fine with not being hyped for some shitty AAA games
>cp2020
>d&d
>Well, can we agree that Bethesda are the only ones that create interesting ones?
Hahahahahahaahahahaha no.
>wow another cave, I wonder whether it will be draugr or vampires this time
I just want to know how they'll fuck up the combat.
Making it a standard first person or third person shooter would be too reasonable.
You just knows they're going to make some weird system where you have to use the arrow keys to aim or something.
Are you me?
>Create enormous world filled with side activities that pales in comparison to main elements of the game - side activities get ignored and termed gimmickry
>casuals blaming world for being boring
People need to start realizing that open-world is a meme. I would take a linear, story-driven game with proper pacing and gameplay/combat over an open-world game with a watered down narrative any day.
>Hahahahahahaahahahaha no.
>wow another cave, I wonder whether it will be draugr or vampires this time
i disagree but thats ok. for example i find it difficult to explore in oblivion because the dungeons are so samey, but in skyrim, fallout 3 and fallout 4 they're all unique. and guess what? you dont have to go to every dungeon. just because i sometimes rather explore more so i skip some dungeons to maybe come back to later, doesnt mean i dont think the world is bad. so, there is some validity to your claim but overall i disagree if we look at the games the were released in the past decade; but sure, i would like to see more dungeons have back stories, and its not like all dungeons dont have them now. the game isnt all about dungeons, too. there are side quests to bump into, alchemy, hunting. its a sham you dont like the game, tho. ive played it for like 200 hours, no mods yet, and it feels like i just started
doesnt mean i think the world is bad*
>just because i sometimes rather explore more so i skip some dungeons to maybe come back to later
That's exactly it, the open world is so shit and samey that the only viable option is to ignore it.
For example, Witcher 3 would suffer absolutely no drop in quality if it was the size of, say, Witcher 2, while keeping the same amount of sidequests
Open world is fine as a concept, just keep it small and properly handcrafted like Gothic 2 or something
Its not funded by the Goverment, they get grants. Any game dev that makes games in Poland can get Goverment grants.
>That's exactly it, the open world is so shit and samey that the only viable option is to ignore it.
i disagree. most of the dungeons might not have story and so they might be samey in that aspect, but it took me 200 hours to prefer exploring the amazing(not boring) world and skip dungeons sometimes. i would pretty much do every dungeon before. just because you want to play your play style every now and then in a huge open world game doesnt mean the parts you currently play less are shit.
>Witcher 3 would suffer absolutely no drop in quality if it was the size of, say, Witcher 2, while keeping the same amount of sidequests
well, i barely played witcher 3 but i hear that a chunk of the fun is traveling in quests which can take a long time, and frankly i like that idea.
Don't worry, you'll understand when you get a bit older and have played more games with the exact same shit over and over again
I recommend playing Assassin's Creed 1, 2, and Brohood and trying to get all collectibles, including the chests with miniscule amounts of money that don't help you in any way whatsoever
Actually, just play any random collection of modern Ubisoft games
>trying to get all collectibles
Why? AC games are perfectly enjoyable since you can choose what you want to do. Collecting EVERYTHING is just a sign of autism.
Same with W3, you collect stuff thats nearby and ignore the rest.
An open world you mostly ignore because it is always the same boring shit is not a good open world