What are they good for?

What are they good for?

Absolutely nothing.

In terms of what?

Plot? Absolutely nothing.
Gameplay? A bonus set of special stages due to the chance that you might have all the emeralds by the time you reach Mushroom Hill.

Sex with Rouge

Seizure inducing transformation with a OP as fuck air dash, i enjoy them a lot

>yfw you get to this room for the first time and realize that you are so fucked.

The Greatest Transformation ever

You didn't enjoy going through the special stages?

They're good for having fun & that's all that's important to me.

>Tfw you'll never become Hyper Sonic, Hyper Knuckles or Super Tails for the first time
That shit was so fucking hype.

They allow me to FEEL

Say it again

>In Sonic Adventure when Perfect Chaos drains the emeralds of their negative energy, they turn grey but Sonic can still use them to turn Super
>Hyper Sonic is actually Sonic harnessing both the positive AND negative energy of the emeralds
DEEPEST LORE

I still hate how Super Sonic was a DBZ ripoff. Wether intentionally or unintentionally its silly and it looks bad if you ask me

It only looked bad once Sonic started taking itself too seriously in the Adventures onwards. Sonic was full of parodies of pop-culture back in the day and it was all pretty tongue-in-cheek. Hell, Eggman goes around in a fucking Death Star with a moustache. Angel Island conceptually and visually rips off Ghibli's version of Laputa in dozens of ways. Eggman himself started out as a parody of Theodore Roosevelt, didn't he?

YO IT'S THE FIGHTING FREAK KNUCKLES

>It silly for other characters to turn golden
Fuck you, DBZ is shit and it's not on some special pedestal of having muh gold forms.

Super Emeralds? They aren't canon, silly.

But your pic related isn't a DBZ ripoff, and DBZ didn't establish some "things become gold when super". Its more like Sonic's fur turns yellow and bends upwards like Goku's hair

that feeling will live in my heart for ever it's what really hooked me into megaman

It's literally supposed to look silly

>Following Iizuka-canon
That nigga retconned Knuckles Chaotix (despite then re-introducing the Chaotix later on) and thinks that Knuckles's campaign in S3K takes place parallel to Sonic's rather than afterwards despite all of the contradicting evidence. Funnily enough, according to his idea of canon, games like Sonic R also count as canon.

Dude's a fucking moron, I'm not one to sit there and talk shit against the head honcho but Iizuka is to Sonic what Miyamoto is to Zelda, story-wise. He doesn't know what he's talking about

What's MAKES Sonic a DBZ ripoff to you? The only thing that was said to be referenced from DBZ was Silver the Weedhead. Everything else is just for show. As said by , the series as always taking shots at other medias, but not just one.

This is a Japanese thing in the end, nearly every fucking thing they make has ~1 character transforming golden or some shit.

>7 chaos emeralds / 7 dragon balls
>both scream and have their hair go up while having it turn gold
>Super Saiyan / Super Sonic

Its an obvious reference to it, but the thing i hate is that it became canon because it undermines the character's ability to do shit

>This is a Japanese thing in the end, nearly every fucking thing they make has ~1 character transforming golden or some shit.
Wasn't DBZ the one to start that trend?

war

I though Saint Seiya did it first

>7 chaos emeralds
Actually 6, starting from the first game
>both scream
Not in the games, at least the classics.
>and have their hair go up while having it turn gold
Well what's going to make Sonic "zomg powerful" if he just changed color and that's it? It's a indicator, like >Super Saiyan / Super Sonic
>Super-suffixes are now a ripoff to DBZ
Again, so this is now a ripoff to No, fuck off. DBZ isn't a standard, it wasn't the first thing to make "super forms" a thing. Hell, Superman came first.

>Actually 6, starting from the first game
Right, and Super Sonic wasn't introduced until they introduced a 7th Emerald

this, /thread

Because you didn't TURN SUPER IN SONIC 1, did you? It's just like why Tails can only turn Super (not even Hyper) in Sonic 3&Knuckles because he couldn't turn Super in Sonic 2 but Sonic did. Fucking hell.

I really don't understand why you're responding so viciously, nor do I see how your comparison to Tails supports anything else you said. It was mentioned that Tails couldn't activate his transformation with the Emeralds because of his young age.

POP QUIZ, HOT SHOT:

What is the difference between Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic, when it comes to gameplay mechanics?

>negative energy

Hyper Sonic

>increased speed cap
>double jump height
>8-way air dash
>Invulnerability (only killable by death plane, crushing or drowning)

that being said, hyper tails is still the most OP

Hyper sonic has a homing attack

Jump special.

difference is dumb phone poster

>even better FAST than Super, and can jump higher
>can instakill non-bosses with his Insta-Shield which also works as a small boost in the direction you're moving towards
>almost absolute invincibility with only timeout, crushing and bottomless pits being able to kill you

>The not even Hyper Sonic can beat time

Was hoping the first reply was this

Super Sonic had a Double Jump that killed all enemies on screen

He could also breathe underwater (as could Hyper Knuckles) while the Super forms couldn't

CORRECT

Also correct

probrem?

If Super Mario is the superior platformer of the 2D era, why didn't it feature 3 completely different playable characters with unique abilities, 4 different character combinations with co-operative drop-in/drop-out multiplayer, and 3 different states of being for each character with custom artwork and special abilities for each state of each one?

I dunno, why are you fat?

My body weight is inversely proportional to Mario's gameplay apparently.

That sounds a lot like agreeing with him, buddy.

>4 different character combinations
Uh, the Sonic games didn't let you do this either

Holy shit thank you, I have no idea why that guy snapped at me just to prove the previous point right.

Mario has a lot of gameplay, so that would make you thin as a pencil.

You mean...
The Chaos Emeralds

They destroyed Super Emeralds because they were scared about the Potential of Hyper Shadow and Hyper Silver.

>3 different states of being for each character with custom artwork and special abilities for each state of each one
I love me some Goddamn Sonic, but what are you talking about? All the shields and power-ups use the same sprite set for the characters, and for the most part even the Hyper forms are the same, with Sonic having some just barely altered frames, and a new crouch.

Super Mario 3 had all the different costumes, each with unique abilities and sprite sets.

I don't think either of these make or break a game, but your statement just isn't valid.

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Base form
Super form
Hyper form

Sonic's spriteset includes unique artwork for each shield, by the way, so they're not all the same.

Mario 3's costumes are powerups; they're equivalent to Elemental shields. It just so happens to be the case that only Sonic can use the Sonic-equivalent of the Racoon-cap's flying ability. But that's okay, because all of the characters, including Sonic as well, have something even better than generic powerups available to all. They have unique signature abilities that fundamentally change the way the game is played. That would be like if Mario could perform wall jumps in those games at all times regardless of what costume he's wearing, and Luigi did something similar but different.

So how soon will we get a God Sonic which is cyan?

But Ryuko is literally Shadow.

Shadow the Hedgehog did that if you went the hero route.

And now DBZ is ripping off Sonic

making it so you don't steamroll through the S&K half after getting all the emeralds by having to look for more emeralds

>sonic 1 era
>"well yeah my cousin said in japan sonic can turn super saiyan just like goku he saw it in a chinese magazine"
>that kid.jpg
>mfw sonic 2

Dragon Ball came first, so what does it matter if Toriyama added a form that's coincidentally like another form present in Sonic? That type of thinking is why lawsuits happen; we can't do homages or references anymore.

Reminder that Hyper forms and Super forms for Knuckles and Tails are non-canon.

I don't think that Sonic is a DBZ ripoff but here are the similarities.

-7 Chaos emeralds = 7 Dragon balls
-Super Transformation
-Angel island = Dende's Lookout (Kami's shrine)
-Oozaru = Werehog
-Namekians = Echidnas


Characters
Sonic = Goku
Shadow = Vegeta
Silver = Trunks
Tails = Krillin/Gohan (debatable due to Cream)
Knuckles = Piccolo
Dark Gaia = Hildegard
Gamma = C-16 (Self-destruct/10, weapon artillery)
Chaos = Buu (this isn't even my final form)
Gerald Robotnik = Gero (Old Madman)
Rouge = C-18 ( debatable, can't be Bulma because of Mechanics skills, can't be Chichi also she can fight almost toe to toe with Piccolo who is Knuckles)
Scourge = Black Goku/Thales (comic character)
Amy = Chichi (Domestic violence on Sonic)
Cream = Videl (She likes Tails)
Big the Cat = Yajirobe (2fat)
Tikal = Karine the cat (ideal interaction with Echidna's Dende)
Espio = Yamcha
Charmy = Chaozu
Vector = Tenshinhan (Just imagine Classic Sonic vs Vector in Sonic Heroes)
Emerl = Arale (debatable, problem with Cream interactions)
Metal Sonic = Cell (Perfection Wannabe?)
Mephiles = Baby Vegeta (2006 & GT)
Eggman = Freezer? (I don't know because Gero is dead and Sonic needs a permanent enemy)
and it goes on

Feel free to add more

>Super transformation
>Sonic = Goku
>Shadow = Vegeta
>Silver = Trunks
>Knuckles = Piccolo
These are the only character similarities that really hold any weight. The rest of them are really reaching or are just bare-bones tropes that have been used in a billion different forms of media

>all those sanic characters
>I don't even know half
Man, I'm getting way too old for this shit.

I was joking dude

pic related or text?

Super Tails.

I mean holy shit, he breaks the game in half with those fucking flickies. It really sucks they never brought it back.

>mfw they bring DESTINY in Sonic Forces

Well wasn't trying to be rude, but seriously, the point was
Sonic 1: Didn't turn Super with 6 Emeralds
Sonic 2: Can turn Super with 7 Emeralds (Including Tails can't turn Super with 7 Emeralds)
Sonic 3&K: Can turn Hyper with Super Emeralds, Tails can turn Super with Super Emeralds.
My point? It was just a coincidence. 7 Emeralds to Dragon Balls was a coincidence. There are 7 Star Spirits in Mario RPG as well, it's a coincidence. Japan really likes the number seven, like they like superheroes turning gold when they reach a power beyond their own strength.

So did klk, it's funny how things go full circle

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