Twilight Princess was awful

>Twilight Princess was awful

-Some nostalgic Sup Forumstard clutching their N64 to their chest, 2017

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t. nostalgic Sup Forumstard born too early to play the better Zelda games at release

MM was awful

I always thought TP was way too easy

>BOTW is the only good Zelda
-Some Sup Forumstard clutching their Switch to their chest, 2017

the game wasnt terrible but the wolf sections were kinda tedious and the bosses were way too easy. the game looked great and had a good atmosphere too

None of the Zelda games are 'awful'. It takes a true contrarian to find any of the mainline Zelda games as bad or unplayable.

Except the CD-I games but those don't count.

WW was a cakewalk

is there such thing as a hard 3D zelda game?

This. If you don't enjoy them whatever but none of them are actually bad games.

pure sex

>born too early
Don't you mean too late?

Breath of the Wild starts off kicking your ass, but then it stops being hard once you have money. Almost there, I guess.

I'll go further than that. Nintendo has never made a bad first party game.

OOT and MM were harder than WW and TP

The first 5 or so hours of that game are the worst of any Zelda game released by Nintendo, but it gradually improves as the game progresses.

i'm playing TP right now AMA

That's a bold statement user

Standard playthrough or additional challenges?

I want to get HD so I can play a 3 heart hero mode myself.

Have you collected three macguffins and received the master sword yet?

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>a marshmallow is harder than a ball of cotton

GC version, wasn't interested in owning a Wii-U
At Snowpeak right now

Why do Zeldafags have the worst taste with their own series?

About as soon as you can get a two-star rating on any of your armor the game's difficulty disappears.

It was alright. Not amazing, but alright.

the snow dungeon was my favorite one and it has the best dungeon item (the ball and chain)

have fun bro

TP and Shadow the Hedgerow are both my first Zelda and Sonic game and they're both still my favorite from their franchises.

If it wasn't for the originality of OoT people would probably regard TP as the best Zelda game.

The only problem it has its that it is waaayyyy too sleepy with its """dark""" tone, it should have gone full Hedgehog

It has an even higher metascore than BotW.

It was, but so was Twilight Princess

I'm a contrarian in regards to that, my favorite Temple in TP is actually the Temple of Time, but that has more to do with the implications of the place more than anything else. I think in terms of actual design it'd probably be Arbiter's Grounds

I never considered it dark, just moody.

Nice meme.

Tp IS a N64 game.

>OoT
>originality

Ocarina's structure was completely rehashed from LTTP.

Twilight Princess had the best variety in dungeon design concepts and -mostly- all of them were well made. I think it also has the overall strongest narrative

Everything else is kind of half boiled though

In regards to temple design, I consider TP to be fairly original. For me, the comparisons of Oot and TP stop at the overworld layout. I always thought the "dark" tone of the game made it more atmospheric and cinematic.
This so much.

All the 3D zelda games are too easy. TP is a good game once it gets going but Iit has the absolute worst pacing in any non shovelware big name video game pretty much.

One thing I liked about TP was that it seemed like the first three dungeons were gowing back through familiar areas from OoT, or at least what I thought was, like that giant tree being the remains of the Deku tree or Goron Mines being an industrialized Dodongo Cavern and the Zora Temple being the same on from OoT

That fucking game is like 40 hours long iirc. And the first 3 hours are completely terrible.

fuck the water temple from TP that shit was AIDS

>overall strongest narrative

that's the problem many people have difficultly pinpointing or putting into words. also applies to the game itself. things just happen and there isn't good agency in the overall plot or characters. like it's an amalgamation of ideas without good cognition of how it would meld together.

It's better than OoTs

I never played OOT

The Major Test of Strength shrines are pretty difficult for the majority of the game, more so than the final boss, ironically.

Well it's better than OoTs just so you know

That's really the problem with it they kind of tried to go dark but since its Zelda they had to frame it in a way that wasn't too dark.

That's very underage of you

The first 3 hours are downright unplayable and after that its a schizophrenic mess made out of great dungeons mixed with awful overworld segments. Seriously, I think the only good part outside of the dungeons was the hidden village.

>worst gimmick of all the 3d zeldas
>worst dungeon item sets of all the 3d zeldas

They were not just the worst features but they were really awful and diminished my enjoyment of the game.
If TP was not a zelda game i never would have finished it.

major test of strengths are only hard because the enemies are fucking bullet sponges

i wish i was kidding. they have so much health early game you just break all your shit on them, i couldnt do it till i got master sword

Well it is

it's not bad, just slow. take in the atmosphere of the village

>that temple with the magnet boots where Link walks slow as fuck

I didn't like it much when it first came out. After playing it again recently and going for more heart pieces and stuff, I realized it was really good.
WW had the opposite effect, by far the worst 3d zelda, still pretty good though.

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Hey, that was a cool idea. Until you are forced to cross a fuckhuge room like that.

JUST THINKING ABOUT HER SWEET CAN

>literally just OOT 2: Furry Expansion pack
>color palette of a puddle of mud
>nightmare inducing character design outside of Link and Zelda
>garbage sonic tier wolf gimmick that adds literally nothing to the game
>unoriginal Twilight mechanic that rips off of previous games but does it worse
>Ganondorf shoehorning
>Midna is the only decent character in the whole damn thing
Yeah you're right OP, it's pretty fucking awful.

>Good
OoT
TP

>Trash
MM
WW
SS

switch those list labels and you're golden

>muh atmosphere

Can confirm. Zelda cycle kicked in for me with BotW. Sure, TP shamelessly copied OoT, but that doesn't change the fact that OoT was a great game with dated flaws that TP improved upon. After playing BotW for 20 hours, I was so starved for a true Zelda experience and I'm glad I had TP to fall back on

>After playing BotW for 20 hours, I was so starved for a true Zelda experience and I'm glad I had TP to fall back on

pretty much this. BOTW could redeem itself if they made a prequel with the champions though

Incredibly safe and boring does not equal awful.

Its just there. It added nothing to the series.

>Good
OoT
MM

>Okay
TP

>Bad
WW

>Detrimental
SS

>People bitch about wind waker because it's not like OOT
>give the people TP
>complain that it wasn't original enough

first you get WW, the most original title in the series and apparently that sucks

so then you get OOT 2.0 aka TP and apparently that sucks too

somebody post that fucking picture, you know the one

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>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW YOU DONT RIKE BAD ORIGINARU IDEA AND BAD REHASHU YOU NO RIKE ZERUDA

This pretty much.

post some games you think are good then faggot

Fuck that, City in the Sky was worse. There was a part where if you fell in between the fan blades at the very top, you fell all the way to the bottom, and you had to make it through pretty much the entire temple again to make it back up.

OoT, MM, BotW. All 2D Zeldas.

>Experiment with original idea
>Turns out to be a shitty idea
>Fall back to the old one
>Fuck it up

>WW
>original

BOY I SURE LOVE DOING THREE (two because cut content) DUNGEONS FOR THE GEMS, GETTING THE MASTER SWORD, AWAKENING THE SAGES, AND THEN WATCHING GANON KIDNAP ZELDA RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE TAN SKINNED BLONDE YOUTH WAS ACTUALLY ZELDA IN DISGUISE? THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!

SUCH UNIQUE ITEMS LIKE THE HAMMER, HOOKSHOT, IRON BOOTS, MIRROR SHIELD

OH MAN COLLECTING THE 8 PIECES OF THE TRIFORCE NO ZELDA GAME DID THAT BEFORE

>skyward sword
>"good"
Crawl back into the wet asshole you came from.

>TP shamelessly copied OoT
1. Same company so why does it matter
2. Why do people say this like it makes TP a bad game

wow boys looks like we have some videogame critics on our hands

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I finished the first test of major strength before doing any divine beasts and I had like 4 or 5 hearts. It took me about an hour because I had to kill it from about 60% of its health using only bombs, but still.