People still talk about Fallout 3 and New Vegas daily

>people still talk about Fallout 3 and New Vegas daily
>literally nobody talks about this anymore

What went wrong?

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Really good story/characters & quests in NV

Hell even FO3 had Tenpenny which gets people worked up for a good discussion

FO4 just fell flat

the lack of interesting mechanics and a good story that was present in the other two.

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that "WE ADDED DA HOUSEZ XDDDD" wasn't fucking good enough

new vegas was better anyway

I think Andromeda and Fallout 4 took the same route. Addictive elements, better gameplay, and digestible stories for commoners for max profits.

Dead modding community is not helping. Most of the "mods" for this game are weapons ported from other games / older fallout games.

Currently being played on Steam more than those two other games combined.

Try again.

>ywn get a game with NV's quests and 4's combat and visuals

jdimsa

I'm getting a PS4 pro today, so I may just start this game up again with some mods to see what improves over the base PS4.

I'm sorry.

Fallout New Vegas has many ways to be played. For example, I installed the Project Brazil mod which offers you a whole new start in a new Vault.

I then installed an Android race mod that let me play as a robotic-looking character.

At the end of the Project Brazil mod you're offered the chance to go to the New Vegas wasteland and continue from there. The only narrative left over from the base game is hunting down a guy who shot you. Getting shot is something that's fairly common in the Fallout Universe, so any character can fit in to the plot quite easily.

However you don't even need to pursue that since you're able to just casually wander around the rest of the game and not be tied to the game's base plot.

Fallout 4 doesn't have anything like that. Voice acting has severely limited custom quests. Every time you talk to someone from the main game, there's a high chance your character is going to utter "muh baby" and break your immersion..

I tried to play Fallout 4 with a new start mod that presented the idea that my character was a wandering Enclave soldier looking to try and rebuild the Enclave - yet at every turn they suddenly start mentioning "MUH BABY!!!!". Not to mention their voice does not match the voice I imagined for my character.

Fallout 4 is okay as a game, but Bethesda committed suicide by making it have such a forced narrative without providing any alternative options.

If there was ever a console platform to do mods with, the PS4 would not be one of them.

Heard that Sony put some heavy restrictions on what modders could do for the already limited stuff that console modders have available to them. Only having in-game assets legal in mods is a handicap that console mods didn't need.

>F4SE out for a while
>still no porn mods

For what purpose?

No one cares when Skyrim exists.

*crashes to desktop*

>Download the official high resolution texture pack, that's weighting 58 gigs
>Some textures are still blurry piece of shit

We don't talk about 3, what are you talking about?

Everything went wrong.

We talk about how nonsensical the main plot is

Fair enough.

Mod the fuck out of Fallout N.V.

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What could have possibly gone wrong? Its a Bethesda game dude. Everything went wrong.

Building? Half-assed to hell and back.
Modding items? Half-assed to hell and back. The only good ones are laser and plasma guns. Thats about it.
Perks.
No Skill Checks.
No Skills to begin with.
Piss-poor weapon variety.
Armors look terrible.
Half-Assed Power Armor.
Melee straight from Skyrim, with all of its shortcomings and none of the good things (dual-wielding mostly).
Terrible story, as in, even worse than Skyrim, and that is something.
"Yes, No (Yes), Sarcastic Yes, Walk Away" - dialogue.
Horrific UI. Pipboy UI too.
Forced cutscenes during dialogue.
Voiced Protag.
Piss-poor char customisation during creation.
Magic weapons.
Free VATS actions because retards did not even bother to rework Skyrim's "reduced mana cost" effect.
Press to Crit.

The game eclipses Skyrim in terms of mediocrity.

AND the worst sin of all: year and odd month delayed Creation Kit (fuck, its not even GECK), that you have to download from their own Nexus clone website ONLY if you purchased a legit copy of F4 (no other way of getting it) with "mods for consoles".

The whole thing is a fuckhouse shitshow.

Unless you mod it. Then its kinda pleasant, but severely lacking.

>Go full out autism and build the most beautiful city ever / vault
>Settlers get lost in the city / get caught into walls

The overwhelmingly plastic look to everything in FO4 made me hate the graphics. I guess outdoor environments were okay. I just finished modding the hell out of it too and it still feels cheap.

Did PS4 kiddies ever get modding for their fallout?

there's a reason why you didn't get sexts digits
>Bethesda committed suicide
you forget who the target audience is

Fallout 4 had the best game play, music, graphics and aesthetics.

It just had the worst story, lore, roleplaying and quests

It wasn't really a bad game but it was a one-time-experience and it was just too... full? I don't know but much as I enjoyed playing it, it doesn't feel like a proper fallout game to me.

Because FO4 was just Borderlands, not actually Fallout

This.

The legendary weapons were literally borderlands-tier (i.e. garbage nobody cares for). The companions were shit. Everything was shit. All you were doing was basically sightseeing and killing things in the area. No actual exploration where you're just walking blind and learning the world.

Played != Discussed. I'm sure there's some flavour of the month mobage that's being played far more than all three games combined by normies, but it's not being discussed here. Why? Because - like Fallout 4 - it's completely lacking in depth or complexity that makes it worthy of discussion -- it's a product designed in such a way to be appealing to as many people as possible, and with gameplay elements designed to appeal to the addiction centers of the brain so they stick with it as much as possible, but lacking in replayability. Eventually, these types of games are dropped completely, and never played again, because you've already experienced everything presented.

Kinda, but not really. Can only use in-game assets for mods.

It also had the worst loot system.

I found a Wounding Double Barrel Shotgun at level 8 that I still used at level 40. The gear doesn't scale to your level, so after a certain point, there's nothing to do besides one-shot the same enemies in different areas.

I was going to disagree with you but then I realized that's exactly what happened to me with FO4, it's fun one time through tho

gamebryo modding communnity used to be tight as hell and a real fun thing to be in. lots of collaboration, resources, everyone knew each other, ect. then the shittyness and entitlement of skyrims playerbase burned everybody out

now it's just /3dg/, youtuber bait and muh patreon faggots

The story railroads you down one path so there is no need for multiple playthroughs

Why isn't Obsidian making a new Fallout?

why is the modding community dead?

>he doesn't know it's impossible to get dubs like that on Sup Forums
>>>/reddit/
Check my 5 first

Mostly everything. Let's hope Bethesda takes notes and fixes everything for TESVI

They won't

How do I get Cait back on chems. I'm rp'ing a junkie and it's a lot more fun to have a buddy to shoot up with.

>current players
>FO4 : 26k
>NV: 4k

well one game sure is dead

It's a mix of the game just not being good along with the main developer of Mod Organizer getting headhunted by Nexus, meaning FO4 needs the janky MO2 which can barely handle complex mods.

New Vegas came out in 2010.

The fact that it has about 1/6th of the player base of F4, even almost seven years after release, is pretty hilarious.

that's not impressive at all

>main developer of Mod Organizer getting headhunted by Nexus
What happened here?

no, actualy it is. Lets compare numbers in 2020 and see how many are playing fo4

The only way to enjoy FO4 is by playing it on survival mode

I assume by then there will be an expac or DLC or something thereby raising numbers

Fallout 4's dev cycle is completely over. They won't be doing any more of either of those.

spot on.

if they deliver another one of these i really hope that it doesnt sell well.
unfortunatelly there are enought cod space cancer autists who will pay the fullprice to play cod in wasteland. sad.

this. nowadays i feel more and more like a fucking idiot whose reward loops are beeing exploited by multi million dollars companies for profit.

the games are bullshit but we eat it up like its nothing. it is us the consumers who have to put out demands and start voting with our wallets.

>no, actualy it is
Skyrim, a game shat on mercilessly by Sup Forums, was released a year after New Vegas and it currently has close to 40k players (counting both editions) on steam alone

>retards eat shit
Next you'll be telling water is wet and the sun is hot.

>a game having a lot of players many years after release is good but only when it fits my argument

skyrim, release date 11/11/11, even very close to 2012 fallout new vegas however 10/19/10, quite close to 2011. Dont take skyrim as a suitable comparison and its not 40k. its 26k

i said, we will see in 2020 m8 so backoff with your ass and play more of your stuff. There are better games yet to come I assume

>skyrim, release date 11/11/11, even very close to 2012 fallout new vegas however 10/19/10, quite close to 2011

thanks for the math lesson but yeah that's basically a year later like I said

>and its not 40k. its 26k
read my posts next time

tfw smart consumer and never bought terribly hyped AAA gaems

Anyone who sides with any faction besides the Minutemen are retards.
They are the only faction with the Commonwealth's best interests in mind.

>"WE ADDED DA HOUSEZ XDDDD"

So you mean they added houses and you didn't like it? Or did the multimillion dollar company really use this kind of tone?

neither did i. but it feels more and more like they are not even worth pirating anymore.

i want to spend my money on a great game that isnt just a time sink and reward loops in a shallow puddle.

>mfw

i forgot about the skyrim version with texture mod. Yes 38k, round about 40k.

Not gonna lie, bethesda should stick to making elder scrolls games because thats what they can do best but not fallout which history belongs to a different company. What makes FO4 bad imo is that FO4 is lacking immense on the RPG parts. The dialogues sucks, the romance suck too, the side characters are just for sidequest goods. I felt only effort in Nick Valentine´s story and a brief development. There is no "What you do, who are you?" moments in game because everything is predictable. Technical is the game a plus but srsly. They are now back to square one with their hands on a good engine. They should hire some good passionate writers instead acting like 16y/o burning up a bible.

>game with 4s combat and visuals
Thank G*d

No one talks about 3 though, mostly because it's worse than 4.

>No one talks about 3 though
well actually...

and because I know some pedantic fuck will bring up the fact that "new vegas" gets more hits than either of those, that's a much broader term that includes searches for "new vegas restaurant" or whatever

The last Fallout 3 thread on Sup Forums was probably 5 years ago, sorry Leafy.

more like 12 hours ago
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it's almost like you enjoy getting BTFO

>thread about shitting on F3
>BTFO
Umm...

oh I'm not debating that most of Sup Forums is retarded

>Fallout 3 fanboy
Rare sight.

not even. I don't waste my time arguing for or against games. It's just that I've noticed a large majority of people who hate on FO3 have clear mental disabilities. I think I've played FO3 and NV about even

I don't understand how someone could like FO3 and dislike 4.

>what is Skyrim Speshal Edition

I like all Fallouts
Shelter is honestly the only one I've ever been disappointed by

>not going for the ghoul mayor instead

Nexus Mod Manager sucked, Nexus had a surplus of cash, they wanted to hire a fulltime developer for Nexus Mod Manager, the developer of Mod Organizer ws the clear best choice, he accepted.
The problem was, he accepted right as Mod Organizer 2 got janky, half-functioning support for Fallout 4. So it got left half-functioning and janky.
Now we're waiting for the program he's been working on at Nexus.

It just feels right being raped in a shitty post apocalyptic wasteland than a beautiful Tolkien fairy tale.

its literally the opposite anywhere but here

>go to Nexus
>check FO3 most dowloaded mod
>it's the one that let you skip the beginning

How can people defend that piece of trash?

>he still CTD in 2017 with all the ressources and tutorial available

modding isnt for you kiddo

The opening is like 20 minutes long. That's the first one I thought of when I started modding my game for sure.

It's a pretty good opening
I mean, the Vit-O-Matic Vigor Tester was just stupid all things considered.

>keep a save file right where the game lets you completely recreate your character before going into the world

wow great mod

It's good but just like FO4 you only ever want to see it like once or twice. Any other time you just want to get into the game.

>Not just using alternate start

>main character is not a synth as it has been established in earlier games that cryopreservation is lethal
>Literally nothing done with the synths beyond some stupid Boston-related underground railroad shit and a very, very poorly done "is she a synth" quest
>Brotherhood of Steel show up to tell you about how all your efforts in 3 and NV to make the brotherhood viable as a faction failed but at least OWB tamed the Midwest's super tornadoes!
>Main character doesn't even bother to find out what year it is until a very dumb plot point in the story
>Nothing the main character knows about the old world ever becomes relevant except as a joke in one quest
>Weapons all variations on worthless garbage with combat somehow worse than earlier iterations
>Radiation is now HP damage
>Muh scavenging not doing much more than rewarding compulsive hoarders

its fallout (call of duty)

Fallout 3 was the tits for its time

Sex mods are still at their babby steps. At least they exist.

anybody tried to mod skyrim into dark souls style combat

is it worth it