FFXIV

Why is getting everyt class to 60 such a grind?

>Stormblood will increase the level cap again

JUST

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Stop playing WHM.

ded indeed

>WHM was the best healer in 2.0
>nerfed to hell and back since 2.1

>Why is doing New Game Plus 10+ times such a grind?

Also SB will increase the exp bonus you earn at lower levels just like Heavensward did.

>enemy team gets DRG + Physical Ranged

Pefectly fair matching algorithm guys

This game has no variety in endgame so playing multiple jobs is the only way to not get bored

Its amazing that they haven't realized that yet and made leveling alt jobs easier

>enemy team gets AST + any melee

It's already easy. You gain 1 level per day for 30-60 minutes of roulettes. Back in the day it took days if not weeks to gain 1 level in MMOs.

how much dps exactly do drks and wars pull on the average trash pack in expert roulette dungeons?

At least 1200

>WHM never actually nerfed except for pvp shit

>Back in the day it took days if not weeks to gain 1 level in MMOs.
Back in the day most MMO's weren't theme-parks whose content you could exhaust within a month.

Use a bot like everyone else does. You gain levels while you sleep or work.

I'm so fucking mad right now, leveled an arcanist to 30 so i could be a summoner because i played a lock in WoW. I had to level thaumaturge to 15 so i spammed PotD and HOLY SHIT it does so much more fucking damage and is so much more fun than summoner. One ruin at level 30 does 60 damage, one fire 1 without stacks at level 15 does 200+ damage. Pets are annoying in this game too.

That's because MMOs back in the day were 10x slower. You had dialup internet, computers ran on Pentium II CPUs, everything was slow as molassis when it came to combat and leveling so they you extend your sub as much as possible from wasting time.

>Balmung or Cerberus still haven't opened

Back in the day classes and jobs had a huge variety of spells and builds, and content lasted for years. Doing a boss felt like a huge event.

Wrong. See Asheron's Call.

That's offset by your dots and the fact that when you need to move you barely lose any DPS while BLM is doing basically no DPS if they're moving.

>Balmung
Don't.

see
Content lasted for years because you had FFXI tier grinds where everything was on a timed spawn and drop rates were in the single digits and decimals. I don't have to remind you back when games had PSO tier drop systems where your character name dictated how bad your drop rates were.

>dictated drops

what??

Looks like shit

I don't see how the technology had anything to do with how the game is designed.

And all MMOs are designed to extend your sub as long as possible, back then it was through leveling and getting access to content, today is with weekly lockouts to any worthwhile content.

But as I said, when what you play has a large amount of options and doing certain group content isn't mundane, you don't really feel the need to have multiple alts/jobs

Back in the day MMOs took advantage of technology and bandwidth limitations to shape their game design. That's why there were 100s of different roles, long ass grinds, and pitiful combat.

MMOs today are way better than MUDs with graphics.

>holy never actually nerfed
i can see why you'd think this if you never actually played the job, and which begs the question of why are you posting about it?

I just don't know how i'll handle end game, i'm playing on ps4 so i only have 16 hotkeys and that doesn't seem like it will be enough looking at all the abilities (including my pets) that will be available to me.

Summoner has less hotkeys they actually use than most other jobs. Just get a USB mouse and keyboard if you want to play the game properly.

>"WHM was the best healer in 2.0"
>complains about a dps nerf that was only relevant for WP speedruns
>gravity and bane have virtually identical falloff

i'm glad this job was replaced by ASTs, everyone who plays it is a bitchbaby

>mfw i hear XIV players complaining about bird drop rates after spending years playing PSO

>16
Expanded crossbar, bitch. 32 instant hotkeys.

W crossbar. 16 more. Learn to macro in a hotbar switch. Stop whining.

>holy given DR
>stoneskin made worthless
>protect made to be as good as schs or asts
>not nerfs

>leveling as white mage
>still 50 doing arr quests
>just want to play as red mage

Hurry up.

>being this passive aggressive because you were completely wrong when you posted

>PVP queues are finally instant

THANK YOU

Back in PSO episode 1&2, your drop rates were entirely determined by your name. Certain items only dropped if you had a specific name. Not to mention that the drop rates in PSO were already awful even if you had the right name. That's how those games lasted for so long by having extremely terrible drop rates and insanely repetitive grinds. People back then dealt with it because there were no other games like it, but fast forward to today where every game has online interaction and RPG like systems, people frown upon this old shit archaic heavily.

Gamers today are lucky to not have such shit systems in place. Would rather take predictable weekly lockouts over X NM has Y chance to drop at Z time.

>have to play through all the filler just to unlock classes.

explain

Bane's only advantage is MP efficiency, Holy is much more DPS even with diminishing returns.

Or he could just get a cheap keyboard and mouse and have better controls without setting up unreliable hotbar switching macros.

Meanwhile, Feast queues are as slow as eveer.

Hello, underage.

war does so much fucking damage holy shit

I've gotten all 3 tanks past level 50 and I still don't have any other role at 50 yet. Should I work on getting a healer up there?

Ultima Online looks way better

Make Monk great again.

Remove c@fags.

It does a lot of burst damage but it's basically even with DRK outside of AOE situations.

Their MT damage is like 5% difference from DRK.

[audible warrior screeching in the distance]

Reminder that Eorzea is rightful Elezen clay.
I hope you have thanked an Elezen today for letting you stay.

>its a waiting 5 minutes until one of the warriors turns off deliverance so they can pull run

>He thinks tanks should do damage
Ummmm, no sweetie, that isn't how tanking works, mkay darling?
youtube.com/watch?v=jBLsjnqcXsI

Their MT damage is a bit lower than DRK

I need my MMO fix

Legion or FFXIV?

Which game is less ded?

Sure why not, the more roles you play the more viable you are as a player.

>queue in as WAR for trial roulette
>alt-tab because someone has bonus so we're waiting for a cutscene
>other tank is a WAR and we both have deliverance on
>don't realize it until I tab back in a minute later
>cutscene ends, other WAR finally switches to defiance at the exact same time as me
>10 second later we both switch back

Legion is a ghost town anywhere but the level cap.

XIV has new players everywhere

>maybe I should gear DRG next
>check what's BiS
>relic is mandatory or you lose a wooping 200 crit

One is at the end of an expansion, the other is ran by Blizzard.

>not posting /ourguy/'s guide
youtube.com/watch?v=sVFYaHPcD1w

>why is this mmorpg such a grind?

ded as in population or ded as in gameplay

tl;dw
>muh meta

Most players don't play at this autistic level, no point.

>caring about BiS
>when the expansion comes out in 2 months

It is hyur clay, fuck off to your cave, we wuz alagans n shieeiit.

>being this bad

>me and an FC mate decide to que up for an expert to gear up our alt classes
>get group with two losers from Balmung
>/vg/ tier search info of memes + erp
>they would stop after every trash kill and emote
>probably taking screenshots to post in their cancerous thread
>buddy eventually gets sick of what he called "RP"
>he doesn't know
>proceed to explain to him who those two turbo autists are and about /vg/
>except I don't say /vg/ I say I say Neogaf
>buddy begins to hate Neogaf with a passion
>he doesn't know the truth

I don't see how you could think getting every class to 60 is any kind of grind. You can do a single class in a couple of days. 4 days if you want to take your time. That's 2 weeks or a month if you're lazy.

>Being autistic enough to care about ugly ass mounts

>playing an eastern mmo
>not expecting wang lao orange chicken chowmein grind

come on faggot did you just get an internet connection yesterday?

When are you fuckers going to unsub so you don't burn yourself out before Stormblood?

Are you bad because you don't drive your car like a professional NASCAR driver? Are you bad because you don't go to the park and play ball like Babe Ruth? Are you bad because you don't cook every meal like Gordon Ramsay?

Who gives a shit, I'm not watching some neckbeard talk about the most autistic tank job for half an hour.

Eorzian clay belongs to the Garlean Empire.

>you don't cook every meal like Gordon Ramsay?
I swear at my food all the time though

>unsubbing

I haven't unsubbed since 1.0 went free to play, I also take a break every other week for about a week.

Yesterday

I'm playing Leejun on the downtime contemplating that one could have better music in raids and other could have more content.

fair

>mfw brainlet goys aren't redpilled enough to use free login campaigns to enjoy the game without having to grind and be locked out of everything

been unsubbed since last summer and havent regretted it since

>playing 3 times a year for 2 days

WHY AREN'T THERE MORE HIGH HEELS TO CHOOSE FROM

FUCK CASH SHOP

I still need a bunch of shit from savage.

>not enough high heels
>thighhighs don't cover feet

my autism is killing me why won't they cover the feet I don't understand. why is there fucking sandals on bare feet is it to trigger footfags? I'm not even a footfag and I'm triggered by that

RETREAT GODDAMNIT

No you don't.

I tried playing Legion and dropped it after 1 hour. Almost impossible to catch up now after seeing what people demand these days. Gotta have X amount of AP points, Y legendary equipped, and Z item level amount.

ded as in population

I MUST be bis on all jobs.

It's a grind because there's not a lot of variety you can do to level up your classes. I guess now there's PotD, but it's just that or doing dungeons in the same order and over and over.

You were met with mythic raid guild demands in 1 hour after starting the game? Please leave your bullshit somewhere else.

WoW is dead at low levels but populated at higher levels, FFXIV is more evenly populated unless you're on a ded server.

>buy legion
>hit level 102 in about an hour
>open up ticket and have a gm refund me the game
>log back into FF

I think it's finally over for my WoW career. I just couldn't play the game anymore, not even for the story.

That's about all it takes to do nearly everything once and then have nothing to do again.

Unless you're really gung ho about doing the same 2 dungeons for 3 months.

WHY WERE WE FIGHTING THE FLAMES IF ADDERS HAD THE WIN

because Erpstrom a shit

how are you able to clear alex savage in only 2 days? unless you only do DF alex, which is fine I guess but where's the fun in that

Ironically world first of Creator took 2 days so it's not technically impossible. Just implausible.

Alex is easy as fuck. Apparently you can just flash on your drk to win