Kind of like the "What would you Shadow be like" thing in P4 threads, let's have a thread about what your Palace would look like.
What kind of place would your Palace be? What form would the guards take? What would be the Treasure at the end of your Palace?
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probably a whatever joker's would be because i'm also a blank slate
None of us would have a palace necause we're all basement dwellers who get their adulation from anonymous shitposting. You have to have a tremendously strong desire to the point of self harm or harming others to get a palace
I'm not evil enough to have a palace and if I am I'm not conscious of it
if futaba has one, anyone can have one
A huge toilet.
futaba has a strong desire for the mc's dick. Do you have a strong desire for his dick?
Well if a Palace forms from distorted desires and reflects that, it would depend entirely on what the desire is and the treasure would be something I consider to be my symbol of authority there.
So, it would be a variable.
But if we're to choose ourselves then why not design a Gallows kind of place, the guards are all different kinds of executioner.
Because really why the fuck not.
My palace would be a speakeasy that opens into a cellar for smuggling liquor during prohibition.
You don't need to be evil for a palace, you just need strong desire of something.
>t. belphagor
>implying I dont
My university would turn into a animal rescue center. I'd be an animal because I always feel looked at by everyone. Guards would be zookeepers I guess.
If you're going to ask about distorted desires, may as well go with the fact that I do furry guro rp. Too edgy? Well, that's the question you asked, so buckle up.
Erotic Slaughterhouse.
All these RPers exist only to amuse me and my dick. So how to artisticly display the humans behind the characters being slightly more disposable than the pointedly disposable prey characters? Some kind of destructive link between them, drawing them in and using them up, presenting them on a pedestal that drops into a meat grinder. Or guillotines and trophy walls, but that's already used thematically elsewhere in the game, so it probably would be ill advised.
Of course if it's going to be an entertaining and perverse dungeon, we have to emphasize the fact that everyone's there of their own accord, enthusiastically. So something between Kamoshida's and Kanji's, I'd think.
But the treasure... Hmm. Would probably be the actual character I play - Big muscular shemale canine type. Maybe the art of hir framed or something like that.
I would totally be the shithead shadow who summons allies and spams diarahan.
If I had one, it'd probably be a giant abondoned fallout shelter.
What would his palace look like, and what treasure would the phantom thieves be trying to steal?
Ooh, kaiju stage. The palace is a massive sprawling skyscraper model city.
Why would the phantom thieves try to take the heart of a nice, honest man?
A small and luxurious but sparsely populated villa. Enemy encounters would be low-leveled and far between. My Shadow would just hand over the treasure, a gold ingot embossed with my likeness, and run off.
Obviously that's just a smoke curtain.
My TRUE palace would be a sprawling underground complex hidden beneath the villa,
the main corridors stuffed to the brim with demons and the maintenance tunnels armed with death traps.
The real treasure would be a golden key adorned with my initials in diamonds.
The key opens the deepest room in the Palace, a safe room where no one can get close nor harm me. Though in truth, said safe room is the actual Treasure, but the Thieves need a material thing to steal, so there's that.
Do try and guess my major malfunctions from this.
If I was evil. An evil Sith Lord themed base. Shadow me would be a fucked up mis of Palpatine and slashes. The palace would feature some pretty depraved sexual themes as well as fascist ones in the non-sexy areas.
My actual custom persona would probably be a powerful young wizard (ain't no goddamn gandalf) with some kinky armour and black robe with hood. Obviously nothing showing since it's a spirit of rebellion and not warped. Persona would have Dom theme to its attacks much like Ann. Psi element instead of fire though. Cool laser sword as a weapon and maeteba auto revolver firing 454 casual rounds.
Palpatine and Slaanesh.
You are very fucking paranoid.
Are you afraid of people or the sun?
Does Belphagor's name in Japanese have some semblance to toilet?
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a tower, wizards, a box of chocolate turtles
Distorted lusts would likely be extreme. Frankly, I'm wondering if they go into this more. I'm only in the Art palace now, though.
>Frankly, I'm wondering if they go into this more
Well Kamoshida was a lust palace.
Hell, his boss is Asmodeus the demon embodyment of lust.
Eroge palace
A train on a closed loop endlessly circling around a spaceship launch platform.
People. Or rather, of people seeing past my forgettable normie facade and learning of my power level and disfunctions.
this one is really hard for me. i live a pretty decent life. got a scholarship, do sports on a national level and have friends who i can party and pick up girls with and also friends who share in my love of stuff like anime/manga, both groups i know in real life. however though i know that i should consider my life amazing, because there are a million people worse off, i can't help but find life extremely boring, and i mean REALLY boring. even to the point where i go to sleep and just hope that i wake up in a different world.
So i guess my desire is heavily connected to the whole isekai, and not just to goody "get your harem" isekai, but any kind of world that would be more interesting than the one we live in will do, whether the other world would be dark or not. and its not just wanting to go somewhere else, just general like "i would like superpowers" just to spice up my life would relieve me of my boredom.
so i guess my palace would either be this big fantasy town with merchants of different races all over the place. or just a bland white room with just me in there, being able to use any kind of power/magic
Yeah, but, honestly? It felt softballed and underplayed - the headless tits statues didn't say anything, other than to be an extension of his authority complex. The lust aspects were simply window dressing, not the substance.
My guess would be a Mt Olympus and he's like Zeus, king of the gods. And his treasure would be a single one million dollar bill with his face on it.
A question of escape. A variety of horribly uninteresting rooms, surrounded by impossibly beautiful vistas and distant places to get to - Only when you open the door and move through, it's the same thing over again, but with a different backdrop. A matroshka doll of escapism, each layer down further from reality, the vista bleeding into the rooms themselves further and further.
But how to have the aspect of distorted desire and the shadow play out? I mean obviously it's a chase-boss sort of sequence, repeated fights of increasing intensity, diving deeper into the psyche, growing stronger the further from reality one gets... Hmm.
Seeing how good people like Futaba can have palaces, I'll think mine would be a cabin in the beautiful forest where I live alone, underneath the cabin is a labyrinth filled with rooms containing my happiest memories and crushes.
Basically the problem is that I'm lonely.
>Not keeping the Greek Myth theme consistant
>Not making a giant spear in the shape of a lightning spear his treasure
Well that what I thought, his treasure in Palace would be a lighting spear while his treasure in the real world would be the million dollar bill.
And him acting like Zeus it would be covered in thousands of whores with cognition Melania acting as a bitch Hera while his cognition sons are Ares, Apollo and Hermes, Cognition Ivanka can be Athena.
I agree, using lust as the starter dungeon was an effort to curb it a bit, since the first dungeon is never very long or difficult.
The second dungeon really doesn't hold back, the third raises the stakes a little bit but I felt it was lacking the same punch that the second had.
Really I had the feeling that the "sin" theme the dungeons have are really just a theme.
well considering the only real thing i care about is myself and i don't mean that in a egotistical sense, but more of a "i'm me and i witness this world, without me there is no world and in the end it's just me and my thoughts", so i pretty much only really care about myself and my thought process. So i guess my treasure would literally be the physical manifestation of myself, i am my own treasure, and since my deepest desire is for myself to be "somewhere less boring" i would guess my shadow would pretty much do everything to stop "myself" from being stolen. however since my treasure is me and my deepest desire is being somewhere different i would assume the final form of my shadow would also just be "me" maybe "me", but with immortality. since i have always told myself that no matter what if i ever got one wish, i would wish to be immortal, even if immortality would force me to live this increasingly mundane life to the point where even my favorite food becomes bland. i would use my immortality to gain knowledge and eventually change this world myself.
wow god that might have been a bit too much of those edgy thoughts of mine
A theme park
Pretty much this. I sometimes get very close to actual suicide just because it would be something different, with actual conflict. Even if I didn't die.
First world problems, brah. We dont have to worry about starving or bandits, so the existential void is our biggest concern. It's not 'edgy', it's actually normal as hell.
But this is missing the key component of the artistic excersize. The nature of a palace is that it represents distortion, some sort of extreme imposition of ego placed upon others.
The worst possible outcome of whats going on here is a hikki type deal, right? yearning for everything, limited to nothing. This isnt an authority abuse, so it just doesnt work for 5's themes, unless we consider the one thing you have authority over - yourself.
Gah. There's some kind of idea in here but I cant quite crack the nut.
Really, now? I'm just past the new party member in 2, so I'm really wondering how much it doesnt hold back past that. Madarame just doesnt seem as bad a guy as Yamoshida. Predatory and consumptive, sure, but people survive that. The kinds of abuses Yamoshida was piling on will have lifelong scars and all sorts of learned helplessness.
Hell the game even shows this, the lead that brought you to Madarame was just a guy who survived it pride intact.
Mine would be a childrens room because I can't let go of my childhood.
Make the characters mini-sized and guards would be some Bionicles or some shit.
Treasure would be my old Cap I always wore
Desire: Recognition
Palace: Some sort of Theater or Stage
Shadow: Movie star or celebrity who thinks everyone loves him
Guards: Security guards like in Kaneshiros palace
Treasure: Film reel
yeah i guess it lacks the whole "effect over others" stick persona 5 was loosely based around
>they find out Futaba's is a tomb
>mfw I've had similar thoughts about my own situation, stuck in a tomb, where I'll most likely die.
DAMMIT, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT WAIFUS, NOT ABOUT MAKING ME QUESTION MY OWN LIFE AND DECISIONS.
user, get to the end and fight the boss.
Holy shit Madarame is one evil peice of shit.
He's worse than Kamoshida.
I say this thinking abusers and sex offenders are the worst of human trash.
Whoof. Allright, then. I've been killing time here waiting for my controller to recharge, I guess its time.
By the by. Do we have a solid table of available actions yet? Like I know there's a free point to buy in juice on sundays, and that the bath house gives a bonus on certain days, and all that?
I have a friend that was working on one, going through on Merciless mode for best accuracy.
But in general he says that clearing the Palace first is always the best option, since it will take three days from you.
Clearing the Temporance Confidant is a must because it will basically give you back two of the three days it takes for a palace.
Clearing the Sun confidant is also great because it boosts Charm.
Futaba is suicidal and agoraphobic due to have her mother due in front of her and subsequent brainwashing and abuse. I don't think your experience compares.
Morgana says that anybody with a strong desire can have a palace.
Infact, when you go into Mementos to deal with requests the people you fight are on the verge of attaining their own palace.
Desire: To be considered independent and angry at how my own family constantly criticizes me for the smallest errors. All hampered by traumatic social experiences that made me reconsider my personality. Wrath mainly
Palace: A Rehab Ward, While Patient Zero's ward is well kept, the ward corridors and other rooms are filled with fighting patients, tests that the doctors never give a passing grade for no matter how hard they do as the patients snap and you hear a droning code silver in background. The Rehab ward itself is a mix of beauty and slow decay which represents an uncertain future if my parents are gone and I am left to fend for myself as one of the plot rooms shows a plan to ensure the safety of the doctors with no regards for the patient's well being.
Treasure: A medical release form which symbolizes freedom and assurance.
My strongest innate desire is to not die.
Or at least to not ever lose hold of my self-consciousness. I don't know how that'll translate into palace form. It's not the kind of desire that can be projected into a "space". At least not one I can project.
depths of mementos of course
I'm saying regular jagoffs like us get stuck in mementos. You have to have desires to the point of delusion to get a palace. It's not like Persona 4 where everyone gets something unique.
Regular people will exist in Mementos, but we see time and again through the requests that people's shadows can be deluded and begin to warp areas of Mementos into their own little haven.
Morgana says after you clear the first request that why drop treasure buds, if left long enough they would eventually gain their own palace.
So, it isn't like the palace appears suddenly, it requires time to develop.
>Desire.
Ceaceless slaughter.
>Palace.
Concentration camp or a gallows.
>Treasure.
A noose with a hook.
Not really messed up or anything I just think these places would make a good dungeon.